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i really like chesstempo for training on mating motifs. actually i like not-computer the best because it removes the temptation to think and play one move at a time. but chesstempo is great for doing a bunch of drills on one specific motif to really hammer in the pattern recognition. as far as i’m aware chess.com and lichess aren’t quite as good at being super granular like this
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Baronash posted:
Make sure to look at all possible checks! If you do that in this position, you would have to evaluate these moves: Qe1+ (loses the queen) Rxh2+ (loses the rook and the bishop, but its mate in 3) Rf1+ (wins a queen for your rook and your bishop) Qxf3+ (wins a pawn and trades queens) Bg2+ (mate in 2) I know thats not much of a shortcut, since you still have to look at a bunch of moves, but maybe this will help you prioritize which moves to look at first. EDIT: oops, Rxh2+ is actually mate in 3! I didnt look at the followup after i saw it losing material. shows what i know. Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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Redmark posted:Looking at a position like that my evaluation would be "come on there has to be mate here", Hand Knit posted:Do you have more pieces around your opponent's king than they have? Look for the kill. yeah these are the shortcuts OP needed! If you've played enough games, you tell at a glance that Black has a winning move here, even if you don't see it immediately.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 00:12 |
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A good rule of thumb is two more attacking pieces than defending pieces. Here black has a Queen, Rook and Bishop versus just a white Bishop defending the King. That means there is very likely a forced mate somewhere.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 03:43 |
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As a side note, for spotting Rxh2+, if you play that black has two pieces on white's king and white has no defenders.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 03:44 |
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Baronash posted:How do you improve your ability to recognize mating patterns and good moves in actual games? I've gone through (twice, in some cases) the mating patterns, tactics, and endgame examples on Lichess. I average about 30-40 puzzles a day, review tactics and positions from books, and have tried to work in some YT content on chess tactics and strategy. what was the time control? in blitz/bullet it's more about developing an intuition for it i think. in time controls where you can actually slow down and think more, something like this mate in 2 you can just kinda brute force by looking at all the checks or forcing moves you have, every move, and calculating them out 1 or 2 moves ahead to see if they lead anywhere
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 04:02 |
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and by developing an intuition, i kinda mean you have to learn the basic checkmate patterns, and as you play attacking moves you can be eyeballing the opponent's king and counting how many escape squares he currently has if he theoretically was in check right now, and then you see if you can cut them off and go in for the kill. like in this bullet game i had the other day, i hadnt fully calculated it out but i had a good feeling that if i sac my bishop by taking the pawn on b5, then i would be able to take back with my knight with check, and then my 2 rooks plus knight with the king kinda wide open like that against only a bishop and bad rook might be enough to hunt around for a checkmate since the king would be pretty trapped in without many escape squares: and it worked out, the rest of the game went like this 14. Bxb5 cxb5 15. Nxb5+ Kb7 16. Rd8 h6 17. Nd6+ Kc7 18. Ne8+ Kc6 19. R1d6+ Kc5 20. Rd5+ Kc6 21. R8d6+ Kb7 22. Rb5# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0
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Hand Knit posted:I'm pretty sure the word "gambit" comes from chess and made its way out into the wider world. Myself, I find myself saying "intermezzo" instead of "intermediate" pretty often. Intermezzo is probably more associated with music than chess for most people. But yeah zugzwang is a very cool word. Gambit, stalemate and checkmate all have a fair amount of use out in the world. Endgame, also.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 04:25 |
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a big thing that helped me start seeing checkmates on the board was realizing that if you attack a king, the two squares kinda diagonal and back from the king are often key escape squares: and those escape squares are cut off, the kind might be particularly vulnerable to a mating threat. this can be because the king is pushed up against the edge of the board, or it can be because you used something like a rook to cut off a file or a bishop to cut off a diagonal, or often it's just because his own pieces are in the way: if i see something like those two kings on the board, i'm instantly on the lookout for a quick mate fart simpson fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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now THIS is a win. eastern bullet arena ftw!
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 05:46 |
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fart simpson posted:now THIS is a win. eastern bullet arena ftw! I was like "where the gently caress is White's king?" For a full ten seconds there. The worst skin.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 08:39 |
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Feel like I've unlocked an achievement.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 12:29 |
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I saw a thread once that says the 'cheat detected' triggers if the player has a lichess analysis board up in another window of their browser but it is not so sophisticated as to check they were mirroring the current game.
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# ? Jan 7, 2022 21:13 |
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I decided to play on a throwaway lichess account and i'm a bit proud that i found this mate in 3 despite being all but lost https://lichess.org/wJMZbT5K/black#33
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# ? Jan 8, 2022 00:21 |
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If there are any other amateur weight-lifters in the chess thread, check this out: Losing 6 blitz games in a row is a great way to get really pissed off so you can bang out several difficult reps!
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# ? Jan 9, 2022 20:43 |
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They should be a version of those garden chess sets where each piece weighs over 20kg. edit: haha looked up the heaviest one I could find and whoa quote:MegaChess 72 Inch Teak Giant Chess Set specifications rollick fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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Helianthus Annuus posted:If there are any other amateur weight-lifters in the chess thread, check this out: Sometimes I just wish I could anchor my rating two or three hundred points below where it is now so I wouldn't have to face the inevitable stream of losses when I fly too close to the sun.
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rollick posted:They should be a version of those garden chess sets where each piece weighs over 20kg. tag yourself i'm queen height
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# ? Jan 9, 2022 22:09 |
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man i hate when i win a game with a tactic i thought was some savage genius and after it’s over the computer tells me it was total garbage and there were like 3 escapes from it
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 00:45 |
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Well they say using a computer is cheating therefore whatever the computer tells you is cheating so you were a savage genius all along!!
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 01:10 |
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jesus WEP posted:man i hate when i win a game with a tactic i thought was some savage genius and after its over the computer tells me it was total garbage and there were like 3 escapes from it Me stumbling into a three move tactic: Computer tells me it actually was a blunder from move one:
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Dias posted:Me stumbling into a three move tactic: Suboptimal line and still won. You're showboating.
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rollick posted:They should be a version of those garden chess sets where each piece weighs over 20kg. ...and you have to move them all in one motion, no stopping
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 06:39 |
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Guys, I've done it. I'm finally...stronger than a new account on Lichess! Now I must never play another match to retain my superiority
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 03:28 |
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I don't think I understand this Lichess puzzle, possibly because I've only recently managed to work my way this far up (~1900) in my puzzle rating. Materially the solution boils down to "you win a pawn", but it's a full 5.0 points worth of eval at the default depth. What endgame principle am I missing?
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Captain von Trapp posted:I don't think I understand this Lichess puzzle, possibly because I've only recently managed to work my way this far up (~1900) in my puzzle rating. Materially the solution boils down to "you win a pawn", but it's a full 5.0 points worth of eval at the default depth. What endgame principle am I missing? Two pawns (after the king moves, you get another) and end up with a passed pawn.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 04:29 |
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It's kind of a poo poo puzzle because the 'only' move is trivially obvious. The 'point' is that it's a trivially winning endgame, and any move other than the obvious move lets black defend the a-pawn with the king thereby stabilizing.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 04:42 |
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silvergoose posted:Two pawns (after the king moves, you get another) and end up with a passed pawn. which is why black's best move is to block with the rook instead of moving the king. but it's a lost endgame anyway
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 05:03 |
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chess.com please stop making daily puzzles with the solution being "black just loving blunders into M2". Thanks.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 05:43 |
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i finally did it. 2000 puzzle rating baby. now to stop doing puzzles forever
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 07:41 |
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fisting by many posted:chess.com please stop making daily puzzles with the solution being "black just loving blunders into M2". Thanks. If you're talking about today's "happy birthday Tatev" one, I'm not sure how they're supposed to avoid mate? You can delay it one move by saccing the queen I guess.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 12:28 |
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Maugrim posted:If you're talking about today's "happy birthday Tatev" one, I'm not sure how they're supposed to avoid mate? You can delay it one move by saccing the queen I guess. I was referring to the Sunday puzzle The first move seems obvious, grab the hanging piece, but it's impossible to see the continuation from there because the continuation is black making consecutive blunders and throwing the game. So I'm staring at this puzzle like "Ok white seems to be winning here but... what happens next... what's the trick... how is this a sunday puzzle "
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 12:58 |
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fisting by many posted:I was referring to the Sunday puzzle Okay I've found the one you're talking about. Weirdly in my calendar it's down as a Monday puzzle (the 10th), must be some time zone shenanigans. But wow yeah that's a poo poo puzzle.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 13:31 |
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Yeah, I find a lot of the chess.com dailies that way. It feels like the opponent is making the same kind of blunders I would make and then wish I could take back.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 15:34 |
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my favorite chess.com daily puzzles are the ones that feature en passant and a whole lot of people in the comments furious because they think the puzzle is bugged
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 21:49 |
AIs getting into chess coaching: https://www.science.org/content/article/ai-unmasks-anonymous-chess-players-posing-privacy-risks
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fisting by many posted:I was referring to the Sunday puzzle i think the point there is to find the best move in the position, not necessarily find the complete continuation. the moves are taken from a real game, so while, yes, black blunders mate, if white doesn't find the right second move the game reaches equality and then the continuation to mate (in the actual game black resigned after white's second move)
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 22:34 |
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also the chess.com daily puzzles seem to reset in difficulty at the start of every week and get harder afterwards so hopefully poo poo puzzles aren't appearing every day
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in the middle of a correspondence game and i worked out a line that seemed to guarantee that i'd win a pawn within 5 moves because of some tactics. almost played the first move to enter the line and did my final check to make sure everythings ok, and noticed atthe end of the whole thing he had a discovered attack that would have won my queen. lol, thats why you always keep thinking
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