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I don't think the hit to the head did anything to goku besides forcing him to recuperate and learn to appreciate grandpa gohan. The whole franchise only works if you assume Goku and Vegeta are immune to CTE.
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Stairmaster posted:I don't think the hit to the head did anything to goku besides forcing him to recuperate and learn to appreciate grandpa gohan. The whole franchise only works if you assume Goku and Vegeta are immune to CTE. I think that the Broly movie (not to mention the previously shown stuff about Raditz's expectations of what Goku should know) shows that Saiyans are meant to be able to remember much further into their childhood than the average human so it doesn't make much sense why Goku would have no knowledge at all about his heritage and background without the brain damage thing.
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Jan 7, 2022 19:32
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I don't see how the film implies that at all.
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Jan 7, 2022 19:36
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khwarezm posted:Really? I've never been too hot about the idea that he smacked his head so hard it knocked the Saiyan evil out of him, but I don't remember anything going so far as retconning it. Jaco manga, which was adapted partially into Broly movie.
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Jan 7, 2022 20:09
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Stairmaster posted:I don't see how the film implies that at all. They still have the idea of Saiyan children being sent off the ends of universe to conquer and kill, King Vegeta says to Paragus that they are just sending off Broly on his first mission. It doesn't make much sense to do that if they have no idea what's going on.
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Jan 7, 2022 20:40
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dr.acula posted:What I wonder about is what the hell kind of planet was it that the saiyans wanted to invade but couldnt do it without Kakkarot, who they assumed was weaker than Raditz anyway. It's not that they can't do it themselves, it's that it's a supremely low effort way to both weed out useless kids and also sterilize easy-to-conquer planets without having to waste time and effort sending actual fighters there. Stuff a baby in a pod and shoot them at a planet, check on them in a couple years. Either the pod baby died(in which case you got rid of a potential weakling) or they cleaned the planet and now you have both a planet to sell and a new warrior with combat experience to collect. It's a no lose situation for the Saiyans.
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Jan 7, 2022 21:10
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Kanos posted:It's not that they can't do it themselves, it's that it's a supremely low effort way to both weed out useless kids and also sterilize easy-to-conquer planets without having to waste time and effort sending actual fighters there. No I mean specifically the planet Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz were about to hit up and they were iffy about it until Raditz was like 'wait I have a younger brother whos probably a weakling but it will tip the scales' (definitely due to Great Ape shenanigans). And then they never mention said planet again. I'm just curious who these beings were that could put up a fight against three Saiyans.
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Jan 7, 2022 21:51
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Re: The head thing Hasn't it been shown that the baby pods have a "wake up, time to kill everyone" recording? They probably have other things too and the head bonk knocked him out of baby hypnosis or something. Or just not being able to pursue his programming gave Gohan a much easier chance to get rid of it.
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Jan 7, 2022 22:42
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Captain France posted:Re: The head thing I believe that was only shown in a filler thing where Goku's pod also could project an image of the moon which somehow made Gohan transform.
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Jan 7, 2022 22:49
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ImpAtom posted:I believe that was only shown in a filler thing where Goku's pod also could project an image of the moon which somehow made Gohan transform. Bardock's greatest invention, the fake moon.
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Jan 7, 2022 22:56
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Funky Valentine posted:Bardock's greatest invention, the fake moon. Bardock invented a novelty moon night light for young children, it really turned them into little monkeys!
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Jan 7, 2022 23:02
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dr.acula posted:No I mean specifically the planet Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz were about to hit up and they were iffy about it until Raditz was like 'wait I have a younger brother whos probably a weakling but it will tip the scales' (definitely due to Great Ape shenanigans). And then they never mention said planet again. I'm just curious who these beings were that could put up a fight against three Saiyans. Maybe Yardrat, the Ginyus were supposed to attack it during/after the Freeza saga and ape form Vegeta + Nappa would be in the general power level of them, maybe the couple extra bodies would be helpful. Edit: on the other hand, lol, Great Ape Raditz would be clobbered by regular Vegeta so who the gently caress knows how they'd be helpful. mmkay fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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Jan 7, 2022 23:27
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khwarezm posted:Bardock invented a novelty moon night light for young children, it really turned them into little monkeys! This obviously proves his scientist chops, it took Bulma decades from that point to learn how to make one.
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dr.acula posted:No I mean specifically the planet Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz were about to hit up and they were iffy about it until Raditz was like 'wait I have a younger brother whos probably a weakling but it will tip the scales' (definitely due to Great Ape shenanigans). And then they never mention said planet again. I'm just curious who these beings were that could put up a fight against three Saiyans. It’s less that they needed the help and more that an extra body would be useful. They want to leave the planet in a pretty good state for resale, Vegeta reprimands Nappa for blowing up that one city as they don’t want to do too much damage to it. An extra body would be helpful for the drudge work of hunting everyone down.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It’s less that they needed the help and more that an extra body would be useful. They want to leave the planet in a pretty good state for resale, Vegeta reprimands Nappa for blowing up that one city as they don’t want to do too much damage to it. I thought Vegeta was mad at Nappa for senselessly blowing stuff up when it could have inadvertently included the dragonballs?
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Jan 8, 2022 01:28
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khwarezm posted:I thought Vegeta was mad at Nappa for senselessly blowing stuff up when it could have inadvertently included the dragonballs? It was both, though he was not really mad, just telling him off.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:This obviously proves his scientist chops, it took Bulma decades from that point to learn how to make one. Look man humanity is way behind saiyanity in blutz tech. The fact that bulma got any blutzes at all is a miracle. What would happen if you exposed midichlorians to blutz waves. Imagine the heights of handwaviness you could reach
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projecthalaxy posted:Look man humanity is way behind saiyanity in blutz tech. The fact that bulma got any blutzes at all is a miracle. Fixed that for you.
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khwarezm posted:Fixed that for you. but we already know that one, you get big golden apes
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It didn’t take Bulma all those years at all She just didn’t need to until Vegeta barged in sobbing and stomping his feet begging for a moon ray to make him an 80s glam rockstar One lunch break later it was ready for use
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maybe he should have just asked elder kai to pull his tail back out too
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Aurora posted:maybe he should have just asked elder kai to pull his tail back out too He could do it to Goku because he had the body of a child again, and thus his tail could regrow. It wouldn't work on the adult Vegeta.
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Blaze Dragon posted:He could do it to Goku because he had the body of a child again, and thus his tail could regrow. It wouldn't work on the adult Vegeta. projecthalaxy posted:Imagine the heights of handwaviness you could reach
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Stairmaster posted:I don't think the hit to the head did anything to goku besides forcing him to recuperate and learn to appreciate grandpa gohan. The whole franchise only works if you assume Goku and Vegeta are immune to CTE. Baby’s first zenkai.
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that was probably strongest form 1
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It's outright shown that Oozaru was the primary edge for Saiyans as planet conquerers, basically enacting a Kaiju movie until enough of the planet's population was gone. Gohan teaching Goku not to look at the moon was a key thing.
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Jan 8, 2022 10:46
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I mean Master Roshi figured out how to stop him pretty easily
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean Master Roshi figured out how to stop him pretty easily This may be a surprise to you, but most people can't destroy the Moon.
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its actually really easy to win a fight against a small child especially a baby and goku would be no exception
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Blaze Dragon posted:This may be a surprise to you, but most people can't destroy the Moon. This may surprise you, they don’t need to. Literally all it takes is one guy who can do it. Which earth explicitly has. Nice try tho
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:its actually really easy to win a fight against a small child especially a baby and goku would be no exception I mean by most standards it's really easy to win a fight against a piece of candy and Buu had surprises in that regard.
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Shinjobi posted:yeah but now I'm picturing Frieza getting along with Chi-Chi like they're old pals Given their similar natures Bulma'd also probably get along with Freeza. So now we just have to figure out which Z Fighter Freeza has to marry to learn to chill out.
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Jan 8, 2022 18:27
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Given their similar natures Bulma'd also probably get along with Freeza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGviZS4BlQk
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Given their similar natures Bulma'd also probably get along with Freeza. Bulma won’t both out of love for her husband, and from angry recall of having survived Namek. Chi Chi though? Complete galpals and a LOT of Saiyan racism.
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Jan 8, 2022 18:38
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Lord Freeza, Bra's Babysitter arc begins.
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Funky Valentine posted:Lord Freeza, Bra's Babysitter arc begins. that’s Beerus’ job! Frieza has to watch over Pan, slowly realizing she’s going to become the next Goku.
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Funky Valentine posted:Lord Freeza, Bra's Babysitter arc begins. Go for a real Dr. Doom/Valeria Richards thing edit: Oh yea, even better with Pan
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Funky Valentine posted:Bardock's greatest invention, the fake moon. It's kind of incredible to me that a couple of throwaway lines from the Ocean dub had such a huge impact on the fandom that we're still making jokes about it 25 years later.
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Some Numbers posted:It's kind of incredible to me that a couple of throwaway lines from the Ocean dub had such a huge impact on the fandom that we're still making jokes about it 25 years later. Well he was a brilliant scientist
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you can't undervalue the delivery on that line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DFJ-OXTzQ&t=28s
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