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ughhhh posted:Do those honeywell and 3m goggles have a good enough seal for teargas etc? If I'm stocking up for all this COVID stuff I'd like for it to work whatever is gonna come down the line in the next few months too. which goggles in particular? you probably want one with an elastic strap and rubber seal for gases Dr. VooDoo posted:How needed are goggles? I wear glasses and having those on plus goggles would probably be a pain in the rear end i started wearing some non-air-tight lab glasses (the big plastic ones that go over glasses) a few weeks ago when i go to the grocery mostly for droplet protection and rain. i don't think it's a major source of transmission if you have a good N95+ mask or respirator. e; snipe. some friends asked me to make a one-page infographic they could hand out when doing n95 mask giveaways so i whipped something up. thoughts welcome 
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gradenko_2000 posted:that Vinay Prasad guy can't fathom the idea that delaying an eventuality can still have value if it means being hospitalized for COVID in March or April (assuming things get "better", however marginally) rather than being hospitalized for COVID tomorrow Because you can catch covid repeatedly without limit, delaying is the wrong word. Delaying reads to me as conceding to the one and done chickenpox myth that keeps being spread. I don’t mean to disagree with you, I just object to the phrasing. A few people, through considerable effort, careful choices, and good luck may never catch covid, so it isn’t inevitable. No one ever describes avoiding catching any other infectious disease as delaying it, instead for example every day you avoid catching the flu is one more day of your life that you aren’t sick, and potentially one fewer infection in your lifetime. The “everyone catches it eventually” line is a rationalization that people use to avoid taking any precautions so in practice it becomes I can’t avoid it entirely so why not catch it all the time. With our current understanding of covid, our goal is to avoid catching it to the best of our ability, and if we can’t entirely eliminate the possibility of catching it, then we are trying to catch it as few times as possible (the same as with any other pathogen, we never want to get sick, and when we fail, we never want to get sick again). It’s always in your best interest not to get sick, so unless you are already sick at any given point in time, now or later, the default is that you are trying not to get sick. I agree with avoiding covid now at peak hospital utilization, but you wouldn’t deliberately change your behavior to increase your risk of catching it later, so I don’t think of the timing of the infection as within our intentional control, short of somehow choosing deliberately to become infected, or to knowingly abandon precautions. Vinay and all these other covid denialists promoting natural immunity lie by describing covid as though it were a different disease than it is, and from there they retreat to a logical fallacy where the claim is that the best way to survive an accidental covid infection is to already have survived an intentional one, and that the best way to avoid death in the future is to fail at trying to die now. They aren’t arguing in good faith, they’re pushing propaganda in favor of fully Open Bidened capitalism. Death of Innocence fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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Dr. VooDoo posted:How needed are goggles? I wear glasses and having those on plus goggles would probably be a pain in the rear end Unclear. As I said before, there's some evidence for ocular transmission, but it certainly isn't a major vector. If you have some spare cash, I'd say go for it since why not, but it's definitely not. As I said before, the only real evidence for it - because it's not like COVID is a big deal so people haven't done much research on the subject - is that early numbers showed that folks wearing glasses seemed to get sick less than people who did not, all else being equal. So I've been rocking a face shield. But apparently that's not ideal, so yeah.
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corona familiar posted:which goggles in particular? you probably want one with an elastic strap and rubber seal for gases how cool would it be if our government provided masks for everyone for free and taught them how to use them.
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Wang Commander posted:got covid, rip my telomeres you'll be fine
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snake and bake posted:I wear swim googles and a half mask and ear plugs, I don't give a gently caress if it's overkill or if randos think I look insane. I don't want covid Actually, reading that study, doesn't that just mean that you shouldn't use a faceshield as a substitute for a mask, which is something we all knew? It seems like as long as you have a good mask under the faceshield - which I and you do - that a faceshield is fine.
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THS2 posted:you'll be fine 77% long covid babyyyy
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Bar Ran Dun posted:oh yeah universities should be remote. We had several very serious papers in summer 2020 basically saying that yeah, you can have schools or the general consumer economy, but can't you really have both going at the same time if you want to keep things under control. Those experts were ignored and we decided to listen to Emily Oster.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Unclear. As I said before, there's some evidence for ocular transmission, but it certainly isn't a major vector. If you have some spare cash, I'd say go for it since why not, but it's definitely not. As I said before, the only real evidence for it - because it's not like COVID is a big deal so people haven't done much research on the subject - is that early numbers showed that folks wearing glasses seemed to get sick less than people who did not, all else being equal. I wouldn't be surprised if glasses wearers being somewhat safer was because glasses fog up if you have a lovely seal on your mask tbh
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Gryi posted:Me and my two young girls just popped positive tonight. No amount of asking that they loving require masks in pre-k worked, it was always met with “county guidelines that said masks are not required in daycare!” only took this loving long to have it actually get my kid. Then she spread it to all of us. lol. lmao. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/Monoclonal-antibodies-can-save-lives-But-Bay-16711517.php Here’s an article from a while back when people were still using regeneron. There are just random clinics out there that specialize in doing monoclonal antibody infusions. Now with Omicron being sometimes estimated at like 95% of cases, you need sotrovimab which is in short supply and being rationed everywhere. I think you might as well try to find one of these regeneron clinics near you and call and ask them about sotrovimab. As far as I know they won’t have any or they won’t be able to give you some, but it doesn’t hurt to ask and you never know. Even if they don’t have any they might be able to point you in the right direction. Your doctor might not have any, and the hospital is probably rationing theirs, but if any of these clinics get some they’re going to want to get IVs into arms, so this might be worth checking out, though the odds might be pretty low right now.
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Stereotype posted:how cool would it be if our government provided masks for everyone for free and taught them how to use them.
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Stereotype posted:how cool would it be if our government provided masks for everyone for free and taught them how to use them. but that would be admitting covid isn't a mild thing
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crepeface posted:dont worry we'll run out of people eventually And liberals still won't give me my permanent residence back.
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Had to be a Bad Dad. My daughter wanted to have a friend over for a sleepover, but friend isn't fully vaxxed and hasn't been super careful. With cases skyrocketing here now I said no. She was really not happy about that. Felt bad but just can't do it right now. I showed her (she's 11) the charts with how cases are higher than ever now. That caused her to go on a little tirade about how stupid the principal is for not doing anything and that they shouldn't be in school. Sadly she thinks this will go on forever, I hope she wrong lol. How many have kids that are bigger doomers than they are? Also, couple days ago a distant friend of my wife's was posting how she got covid (unjabbed) and how bad it was. Then her husband got it, also unvaxxed. Then he got admitted to the hospital. When my wife showed me he'd been put in ventilation I just said "well he's going to die". My daughter is right, we live in hell and everyone is dumb.
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SirPablo posted:Had to be a Bad Dad. My daughter wanted to have a friend over for a sleepover, but friend isn't fully vaxxed and hasn't been super careful. With cases skyrocketing here now I said no. She was really not happy about that. Felt bad but just can't do it right now. your daughter is more qualified to be lead the CDC than the current person if that makes u feel any better haha
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Crazypoops posted:Lol you could have just had everyone wear n95s for a month and we'd be fine lmao
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ShutteredIn posted:China is just flexing on everyone at this point https://twitter.com/shenzhencity/status/1479710924441276416?s=21 drone skywriting used for public health initiatives instead of advertisting... what a authoritarian dystopian hellstate UnfortunateSexFart posted:And liberals still won't give me my permanent residence back. have you tried being more white and rich
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Dr. VooDoo posted:How needed are goggles? I wear glasses and having those on plus goggles would probably be a pain in the rear end I don't know poo poo about anything but I feel like eye protection is most valuable when in close enough range to be hit by people's projectile fluids.
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crepeface posted:have you tried being more white and rich freedom and VOTES will lead you there
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Google Butt posted:your daughter is more qualified to be lead the CDC than the current person if that makes u feel any better haha That's scary, so no.
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SirPablo posted:How many have kids that are bigger doomers than they are? Man, that's a loving trip. Smart kid, though.
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corona familiar posted:which goggles in particular? you probably want one with an elastic strap and rubber seal for gases Wow! this is a really great infographic. my only suggestion is to add that the user should rotate between a few masks a week to let the mask air out. otherwise, looks great! very concise yet informative.
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SirPablo posted:Had to be a Bad Dad. My daughter wanted to have a friend over for a sleepover, but friend isn't fully vaxxed and hasn't been super careful. With cases skyrocketing here now I said no. She was really not happy about that. Felt bad but just can't do it right now. Get your kid an account, sounds like she knows whats what
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so during NYE we had a DANCING BAN that some people tried to get around at a private party at a fancy barquote:Police attended The George as part of a routine inspection around 11.30pm on New Year’s Eve and found the doors locked and the windows blocked out. they are now getting charged in court  quote:It is described as a "sophisticated restaurant and bar" on its website.
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I had 4 of the Auras with rubber-band type head straps sitting around where one of the straps had snapped well before the mask was used up. Got some fabric-type elastic strap material today and just sat down replacing all the broken straps with superior elastic ones (not too hard to prise the legs of the staples up, replace the strap and then crush the staple back down again). Feels good to give them all a second go rather than just chucking them and using new ones. Also can confirm that going indoor bouldering wearing an Aura the entire time is quite possible and didn't feel hard to breathe at all (I have ones with exhalation valves though).
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Wang Commander posted:got covid, rip my telomeres 1 virus vs a 2L mRNA vaccine
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Wang Commander posted:got covid, rip my telomeres mr president, "max" has fallen
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Trixie Hardcore posted:How great would an 11 year old going full doomer on the D&D thread be? They’d love it. I feel like a guy like OOCC has spent his entire life waiting to explain to a young girl that the obvious things she knows about the world are actually much more nuanced than she thinks
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Blackhawk posted:I had 4 of the Auras with rubber-band type head straps sitting around where one of the straps had snapped well before the mask was used up. Got some fabric-type elastic strap material today and just sat down replacing all the broken straps with superior elastic ones (not too hard to prise the legs of the staples up, replace the strap and then crush the staple back down again). Feels good to give them all a second go rather than just chucking them and using new ones. where'd you get the fabric strap material from? having the exact same issue with my auras, and the ones with the fabric straps aren't available here 
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durrneez posted:drat. only 3 hospitals with beds left in los angeles. curse these soft clumsy vessels
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