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Owlbear Camus posted:I don't disagree, but I think you could have the alternate read of it until TK is confirmed in the Wampa den. fuckin marty stus
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thrawn527 posted:Though, when I was a little kid, I thought Vader had installed something in all of his officer's collars that connected with his glove that let him choke them. I didn't really *get* the Force when I was a little kid. I am probably not the only kid who thought for a while that stormtroopers were robots. Even though the heroes steal and wear their armor.
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Hazo posted:I don't think this was posted but it's rad as gently caress That's so cool. Makes me want to pull out my copy of The Illustrated Star Wars Universe. The Tatooine chapter has a whole section on Tusken culture, which is probably pretty problematic, but still, lots of neat Ralph McQuarrie art!
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Owlbear Camus posted:I am probably not the only kid who thought for a while that stormtroopers were robots. Even though the heroes steal and wear their armor. When the first tv teaser for Star Wars came out I thought Chewbacca was a space werewolf 
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:When the first tv teaser for Star Wars came out I thought Chewbacca was a space werewolf That tracks because it's always a full moon... in space
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Owlbear Camus posted:That tracks because it's always a full moon... in space That's no moon.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:When the first tv teaser for Star Wars came out I thought Chewbacca was a space werewolf It's true. Think about it: have you ever seen Han Solo and Chewbacca in the same room at the same time...?
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It just occurred to me that years of playing and running Star Wars RPGs can cause a lot of fans (me included) to think they know what the gently caress they're talking about when it comes to stupid made-up bullshit in a Galaxy Far Far Away...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCoCoN4EMk I wonder if the credits montage concept art lifted entirely from Lawrence of Arabia was too subtle for Bombastic that this is such an incredible revelation. Just some obscure little film and it's a deep cut for Star Wars to make that reference.
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So if the Force is just magic and Superman is resistant to magic, does that mean that Superman can't be attacked by, say, Force lightning?
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Superman is weak to magic, but luckily the Force is just a run of the mill energy field focused through blood microbes, so he'd be fine. It's the Kryptonite lightsaber has to worry about.
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The Rancor syke was pretty funny. I could totally imagine some lackey giving Fett a baby Rancor saying how the previous one had pups and they tracked one of them down. Then pull some Grogu on him about it'll take the little guy 500 years to get big like his mommy. Also, I was admittedly a bit confused about the Tusken in black that trained Boba Fett how to fight. Initially I assumed it was the Chiefs wife but in the prequels we see female tuskens look very distinctly different in clothing. I guess there's the explanation of "there are many tribes of Tuskens" and that group made their women wear space burqas but the group Fett was with were more egalitarian. Though all the same both groups would have lived pretty close geographically.
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Yeah, the masks are the same among everyone in the tribe, but females seem to still wear similar shoulder coverings to the AOTC tribe:  The female warrior, the chief, and the kid are also the only Tuskens in the tribe to wear red, so I imagine they're probably a family. Also unrelated to Tuskens, but it's cool to see the game being played in the Sanctuary isn't just Sabacc again, but appears to be a return of Pazaak from KOTOR, with its +/- cards. 
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Arc Hammer posted:Force resistance to mind tricks is such a dumb thing that the EU takes too literally. Ben fools the stormtroopers because they're unthinking cogs in the machine. Luke fools Bib Fortuna because he's an rear end kissing yes man who doesn't do anything on his own. He can't fool Jabba because Jabba is a savvy businessman and gangster who needs to be crafty to get where he is. Honestly, a "willpower save" is a fine way to conceptualize it. Storm Troopers are soldiers and necessarily have low willpower, so they are extremely likely to fail the check. That's why Obi-Wan was able to rock it. Luke overestimates himself (a theme of ROTJ) and gets bitten in the rear end. People are being all "TRAINS!" about the text, but Obi-Wan says it only works on the weak willed. Jabba is not weak willed. That's textually sufficient. If you want to go Prequels (ew) Watto is also not weak willed.
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Robot Style posted:Superman is weak to magic, but luckily the Force is just a run of the mill energy field focused through blood microbes, so he'd be fine. Superman isn't weak to Magic, Magic is just something he's not immune to. 
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Well, "Boba Fett teaches drivers ed to the Sand People" was not something my younger self ever anticipated seeing in Star Wars, yet here we are. I like the suggestion I saw somewhere that Boba teaching the Sand People to collect tribute for passage is why Din was able to cross unmolested by them years later by giving them that other guy's binoculars, kind of a funny touch if so (even likely to be the same tribe or neighbors to Boba's tribe considering he was around to rescue Fennec in that episode). Still have no idea where the "modern day" storyline is going in the show though, I presume the "ask permission to kill the Hutts" thing is to explain why Boba doesn't just gun them down in the street, Black Krrsantan or not.Robot Style posted:Also unrelated to Tuskens, but it's cool to see the game being played in the Sanctuary isn't just Sabacc again, but appears to be a return of Pazaak from KOTOR, with its +/- cards. HOW DID THEY SNEAK THAT IN?!  Man, this show is amazing nerd bait.
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"Can't kill a made man if you aren't a made man" and "can't kill a member of a family (made or not) without permission" are mostly "Goodfellas" inventions but they are part of the modern perception.
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Robot Style posted:Also unrelated to Tuskens, but it's cool to see the game being played in the Sanctuary isn't just Sabacc again, but appears to be a return of Pazaak from KOTOR, with its +/- cards. The Tusken chief also mentioned that Tatooine used to be green, which was a big plot point from KOTOR. They also reintroduced HK assassin droids in The Mandalorian.
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I am quite curious about the nature of organised crime in Star Wars. What do they trade in? Spice I guess. Weapons as well. Stolen goods? Presumably the Hutts are tolerated by both the Republic and the Empire, maybe because the Hutts kick money up, or perhaps the Hutts maintain some form of order over the Outer Rim meaning the Emoire/Republic don't need to utilise resources policing those places.
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Drugs, slaves, guns, prostitution, gambling, rare items, luxury goods, ancient artifacts of great power, trade routes, basic necessities, droids, political favours. Honestly, given the scope and age of the Star Wars universe, the question is what wouldn't they deal in. The great powers of the Republic and Empire are far away and don't care, that leaves * then the women.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOBWVxnZDA Kevin Smith's Fatman Beyond podcast has an interview right at the start with the director of photography. Lots of interesting stuff about the Volume, previsualization and such. Haven't seen the complete thing yet, so I don't know how it's going to develop, but I'm 15 minutes in and thought I'd share it. EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOBWVxnZDA&t=4982s Review of the show starts at 01:32:00, in case you're interested. Dave Syndrome fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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Dave Syndrome posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOBWVxnZDA "We have one practical bantha that's filled with four puppeteers and another four guys with remote controls" (and the others are CGI) that's loving wild lol
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MadDogMike posted:HOW DID THEY SNEAK THAT IN?! I caught the Lawrence of Arabia, McQaurrie, and Tosche Station references but god dammit I missed this one.
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Here's the breakdown by one of my faves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrLumGuONY
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You guys are all wrong by the way. Obi-Wan demonstrates TK in ANH when he makes an audible *thunk* that both the stormtroopers and the audience hear.
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I thought the Banthas were played by trained elephants dressed in costumes? Also a hearty LOL at the fact that every time the train whizzed by a Bantha would eat poo poo by an errant blaster bolt. Even though the blasters weren't always lethal towards Tuskens that got hit, one zap was like BAM your Bantha's dead. It's like the human equivalent of having someones truck get blown up every time a ufo happened to to float past. Maybe hide your ride a little better?
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mdemone posted:You guys are all wrong by the way. Obi-Wan demonstrates TK in ANH when he makes an audible *thunk* that both the stormtroopers and the audience hear. He makes the Stormtroopers hear something but just because the audience heard it too, doesn't mean it's diagetic sound anymore than last week Boba was literally fighting a tentacle tree while his armor dematerialiEd and remarieralized. 
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Panfilo posted:I thought the Banthas were played by trained elephants dressed in costumes? They were, in 1977.
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Owlbear Camus posted:He makes the Stormtroopers hear something but just because the audience heard it too, doesn't mean it's diagetic sound anymore than last week Boba was literally fighting a tentacle tree while his armor dematerialiEd and remarieralized. I always figured he made some relief valve somewhere pop off. Never even considered the possibility that it was an auditory illusion.
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The script for the movie doesn't actually mention Ben's trick at all, only saying that "he deftly slips past all of the troops", so it may have just been something they made up while shooting without thinking too much about it. Lucas did intend for thefilm to feel like a documentary to help the audience buy into the world, which would mean cutting down on subjective elements of the movie, but stuff like Luke hearing Obi-Wan's voice muddles that a bit as well.
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Panfilo posted:I thought the Banthas were played by trained elephants dressed in costumes? Pretty sure they were intentionally shooting the Banthas. They’re a bunch of assholes “defending” themselves by shooting the “uncivilized “ natives from the comfort of their armored train moving at speeds the natives could never hope to catch. The best bet the Sand People would have would be taking shots at the train’s engine but presumably (hopefully?) that is armored enough to be resistant to small arms fire at range. Aren’t even any rails on that “train” to destroy. If they didn’t open their windows to take potshots there would be nearly nothing the Tuskens could do to hurt them. But, no, they gotta get their kicks with some “sport shooting”.
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Owlbear Camus posted:He makes the Stormtroopers hear something but just because the audience heard it too, doesn't mean it's diagetic sound anymore than last week Boba was literally fighting a tentacle tree while his armor dematerialiEd and remarieralized. Foiled again by theory
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Madurai posted:They were, in 1977. It puts a terrible strain on the animators’ wrists. ...wait a minute...
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I'm shocked and I love to see they managed to sneak pazaak in there. That's outstanding. It's a strange thing to be excited by Star Wars again. Who knew all it would take is high quality writing, production values, and a team that not only has a deep understanding of the setting but clearly loves it. Because with sequel trilogy when people would say "I love star wars" it seemed to me more like they 're talking more about the earning and market penetration of star wars than anything else. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:He makes the Stormtroopers hear something but just because the audience heard it too, doesn't mean it's diagetic sound anymore than last week Boba was literally fighting a tentacle tree while his armor dematerialiEd and remarieralized. It’s certainly possible, but both scenes have a POV character we’re following. We’re with Boba, so we see what Boba sees. In the ANH scene, we’re with Obi-Wan, and the Stormtroopers are minor side characters. Does Obi-Wan hear the fake sound he made in the Stormtrooper’s brains, too? The far simpler explanation is that he used TK. Especially after ESB comes out and Luke is using it to move a lightsaber and rocks. In hindsight, that scene would have been cooler if there was no sound, and both Stormtroopers mentioned hearing a sound, showing that Obi-Wan was just loving with their minds again.
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