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The other night I dreamt I got Elden Ring early....
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Jan 8, 2022 14:26
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Sakurazuka posted:The other night I dreamt I got Elden Ring early.... Same man. Same.
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Jan 8, 2022 14:33
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I didn't know what TES was when Morrowind came with my old FX 5200 nearly 20 years ago. But it just had this atmosphere that I've scarcely experienced in anything else since. Right from the opening title, to Jiub greeting you on the boat, you're hooked. I beat the main quest I guess in Skyrim but left a lot untouched cause it was boring. But every time I go back to attempt a new run I'm bored of it before I'm off the cart.
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Jan 8, 2022 15:09
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Morrowind is so weird and cool and it's a bummer how most fantasy stuff is still generic fantasy - it's so lame Todd had them make Oblivion medieval Europe when it wasn't supposed to be in the lore. It's why I'm excited about stuff like "conqueror of the stars" because that could signal some weirdness beyond Dark Soulsian medieval Europe fantasy.
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Jan 8, 2022 15:16
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Oenis posted:Do you have any recommended places to preorder from? I see some stores offering a more attractive pricing proposition than steam's 60€, but then again I don't know anything about the trustworthiness of these. GameStop gives you miniature horse summoning whistle. Best Buy gives you a steel case. Neither is as good as Sekiro's katana letter opener because I can't place it in my infant son's hand and have it be to scale (it's not sharp, although it did piss off my wife).
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Jan 8, 2022 15:17
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Groovelord Neato posted:It's why I'm excited about stuff like "conqueror of the stars" because that could signal some weirdness beyond Dark Soulsian medieval Europe fantasy. Yeah. I’m hoping Elden Ring goes full BB in it’s second half.
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Jan 8, 2022 15:25
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daggerfall was real loving cool for the time but it pays for its ambition with some absolutely game-breaking issues, more common and worse than a lot of the stuff in the modern games
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Jan 8, 2022 15:26
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Speaking of which, if anyone wants to try Daggerfall these days, Daggerfall Unity is 100% the way to go (and turn on the option that makes the dungeons smaller).
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Jan 8, 2022 15:28
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CYBEReris posted:daggerfall was real loving cool for the time but it pays for its ambition with some absolutely game-breaking issues, more common and worse than a lot of the stuff in the modern games Bethesda was bethesda before it was cool.
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Jan 8, 2022 15:32
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Groovelord Neato posted:Morrowind is so weird and cool and it's a bummer how most fantasy stuff is still generic fantasy - it's so lame Todd had them make Oblivion medieval Europe when it wasn't supposed to be in the lore. It's why I'm excited about stuff like "conqueror of the stars" because that could signal some weirdness beyond Dark Soulsian medieval Europe fantasy. What was the lore for it supposed to be?
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Jan 8, 2022 15:43
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Ichabod Tane posted:What was the lore for it supposed to be? Cyrodiil was always described as a jungle before Oblivion had to actually show it to us. Michael Kirkbride posted:Cyrodiil was going to be as described in the first PGE. [...] The heart of the province being what you think of when you think of a traditional jungle, tumbling down to the fields of large rice paddies that fed the Empire, guarded by Romanesque troops and dragons everywhere. The Imperial City was to be vast, rolling across wetlands and swamps, with large sections lost and overgrown, full of too many cults to count, the oldest temples having obviously been around since the Merethic.
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Jan 8, 2022 15:45
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Dabir posted:Cyrodiil was always described as a jungle before Oblivion had to actually show it to us. oh that sounds extremely cool and now I'm bummed too lmao
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Jan 8, 2022 16:18
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Ichabod Tane posted:What was the lore for it supposed to be? Like Dabir posted it was a massive jungle and it was populated by Amazon-Romans. If I'm remembering right it was developed when LOTR came out so Todd Howard decided it should be boring medieval Europe.
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Jan 8, 2022 16:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dutFzBXNF4
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Jan 8, 2022 18:24
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Skyrim is the second-best unmodded elder scrolls game tbh. It's just that that series has never been amazing outside of Morrowind. The TES games that came before it were heavily flawed and lacked focus beyond the vague "feel like an adventurer in a massive fantasy world" concept. In contrast, Morrowind had a singular vision that still allowed for a shocking amount of open-endedness without any of the content feeling tangential, a miraculous trick that bethesda will never be able to recreate. They're back to making their games too big, while being about too many different things. So I'd argue that only one of Bethesda's games has ever been great, though I thought Skyrim was pretty alright in its own way. That's pretty much exactly how I feel. None of the Elder Scrolls games are bad, and I'm sure I'll buy and enjoy every single one in the future, but Morrowind blew my loving mind at the time. A fully 3-D world with all kinds of things to find and do and it was possible to completely gently caress yourself and die horribly without a whole lot of effort, and everything was so loving weird and unfamiliar. It really set the tone and was groundbreaking at the time. Skyrim was better than Oblivion, IMO, but I think that was more due to general levels of polish and better art than anything. A pseudo-Norse setting is better than somewhat generic FantasyLand™, but not by a lot. CYBEReris posted:daggerfall was real loving cool for the time but it pays for its ambition with some absolutely game-breaking issues, more common and worse than a lot of the stuff in the modern games Yeah, if you played Daggerfall, especially when it first came out, you better save every five minutes and have 50 loving backup saves because, wow, was it fragile. You would inevitably have minor broken poo poo happening in your game re: quests and scripting and you just had to decide what was bad enough to sacrifice X hours for and how far you wanted to roll it back in the hope that it wouldn't happen again. The only thing I miss from Daggerfall is the sheer scale of the dungeons, but that was also part of the problem since they (some of them?) were auto-generated and you could easily trap yourself forever because welp, generator did a whoopsie. The only game that has me as excited as Elden Ring right now is Dying Light 2, which comes out on the 4th--the first one was really, really good. Both of them could be absolutely stunning and could set a new standard. I thought that about Cyberpunk too, and had equally high hopes, and while I don't regret buying it and feel like I got my money's worth, instead of being groundbreaking it ended up being...fun. Mostly. Often. I'm glad we've seen vids and heard good things via early access. I'd be bummed by another "okay...it's fun". 
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Jan 8, 2022 20:47
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Ichabod Tane posted:oh that sounds extremely cool and now I'm bummed too lmao Yeah the Imperial City was supposed to be a Tenochtitlan style canal city on a lake instead of what we got. 
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Jan 8, 2022 21:33
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To be honest that just sounds like they had to compromise to get it to fit within the limitations of the hardware of the day. Bethesda had to get it running on 360 as a launch title. There's a city in the game that's got a bit more foliage compared to the other cities (Cheydinhal I think?), and it noticeably runs like a dog. I remember the framedrops vividly. Getting dense foliage to run well back then would have been a fool's errand.
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Jan 8, 2022 21:40
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:To be honest that just sounds like they had to compromise to get it to fit within the limitations of the hardware of the day. Bethesda had to get it running on 360 as a launch title. There's a city in the game that's got a bit more foliage compared to the other cities (Cheydinhal I think?), and it noticeably runs like a dog. I remember the framedrops vividly. Getting dense foliage to run well back then would have been a fool's errand. Yes, people at the time were very excited about how the game was being ruined by console needs right at a time when PC graphics were getting very exciting. Oblivion came out the year before Crysis lol
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Jan 8, 2022 22:14
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Well it looks like From may be doing a new Armoured Core... perhaps with a soulsbourne twist? https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-01-08-details-of-an-announced-from-software-armored-core-game-have-reportedly-popped-up-online
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Jan 8, 2022 22:32
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I played the first dying light and liked it but holy poo poo does the development of the sequel sound like a poo poo show. I would absolutely not preorder it no matter how much you liked the original.
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Jan 8, 2022 22:40
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skasion posted:Yes, people at the time were very excited about how the game was being ruined by console needs right at a time when PC graphics were getting very exciting. Oblivion came out the year before Crysis lol Oblivion still looked heads and shoulders above everything else, just by virtue of being the first title of a new generation. Crysis may have been a year later but the hardware to run it well literally didn't exist. We had to wait for something like the geforce gtx 470 to finally run it above 30fps at high settings and that was not for another three years!
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Jan 8, 2022 22:42
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Console limitations would've limited the scale but it would've had no effect on the aesthetic choices really.
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Jan 8, 2022 22:56
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StarBegotten posted:Well it looks like From may be doing a new Armoured Core... perhaps with a soulsbourne twist? gently caress yes, i've been waiting for a new Armored Core. As a pre-teen / teenager who played a lot of King's Field and Armored Core -- I need this. Funny thing, I didn't know From made both of those games and so when goons introduced me to demon souls by pointing out that they were the same company that made King's Field, I was blown away. When I found out they made all three of these games my mind got blown.
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Jan 8, 2022 22:58
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I can't wait for the stupidest hot takes about how Armored Core, which has always been about horrible megacorps loving up everything and fighting insane corpo wars, is actually an attack on sjws and communism.
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Jan 8, 2022 23:04
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Ichabod Tane posted:gently caress yes, i've been waiting for a new Armored Core. From also made the rather excellent Otogi on Xbox. They have been making extremely good games for years
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Jan 8, 2022 23:24
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Its been rumored that From would revisit Armored Core since DS3 came out and they made a big stink about it being the "last dark souls". I never played Armored Core but I would be interested in seeing how modern From handles it.
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Jan 9, 2022 01:51
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Chromehounds was another amazing FROM game.
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Thundercracker posted:(it's not sharp, although it did piss off my wife). So it's just like you then? Hey-ooooohhh
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Jan 9, 2022 03:25
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See, that's weird because I thought Oblivion had more variety and was more colorful thank Skyrim where every single area was grey, brown, cold and snowy. I'm not wild about either game and got bored quickly (20 hours maybe) with both but thought that Oblivion was more fun to look at. Ah poo poo. Sorry. double post
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Chromehounds was another amazing FROM game. the forever war. Chromehounds was sick af. I had a mean looking scorpion looking mech that would routinely get it's tail blown off
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Jan 9, 2022 03:34
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BiggerBoat posted:See, that's weird because I thought Oblivion had more variety and was more colorful thank Skyrim where every single area was grey, brown, cold and snowy. I'm not wild about either game and got bored quickly (20 hours maybe) with both but thought that Oblivion was more fun to look at. Visually, Oblivion is to DS1 as Skyrim is to DS3. DS2 is a big pile of half baked piss with pretty lighting and a few nice views.
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Jan 9, 2022 03:43
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Chromehounds was soooo loving good in the beginning. Just hilarious stupid bullshit
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Jan 9, 2022 03:48
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StarBegotten posted:Well it looks like From may be doing a new Armoured Core... perhaps with a soulsbourne twist? i cannot wait to play this in 2026 or whatever
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Jan 9, 2022 14:14
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edgar_ posted:i cannot wait to play this in 2026 or whatever From releases games at a pretty steady pace, I doubt we'll have to wait that long to see it release.
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Jan 9, 2022 16:08
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AnEdgelord posted:Its been rumored that From would revisit Armored Core since DS3 came out and they made a big stink about it being the "last dark souls". I never played Armored Core but I would be interested in seeing how modern From handles it. Armored Core on the PS1 is a classic, it's the game that first gave me customization brainworms. Most of the other third person shooters of the day were incredibly shallow and lacked depth, but AC was the first to give the player a lot of choice in their loadout and playstyles, and it helped that the gameplay was really, really loving good. The targetting & controls worked despite the lack of joysticks back then.
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Jan 9, 2022 16:14
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:From releases games at a pretty steady pace, I doubt we'll have to wait that long to see it release. yeah its important to remember that the long gap between Elden Ring's announcement and release is unusual for them though I guess technically the new Armored Core hasn't been announced quite yet
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Jan 9, 2022 16:19
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elden ring is the first time I felt like I was really being made to wait for a From game, normally they come out at a pretty steady clip
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Jan 9, 2022 16:20
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the gap wasn’t really that bad considering the pandemic
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It's only been 3 years since Sekiro. Compare that against FFXIV or Halo Infinite. From seems extremely well managed compared to most game studios.
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