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Not quite. Musk's real importance lies in the fact that he was the first engineer to present a world in which class and wealth mattered, some characters were poor, some were rich, and not owning an electric car was a hardship, not just a cheery sentimental thing in the scenery.
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Guavanaut posted:Not quite. Musk's real importance lies in the fact that he was the first engineer to present a world in which class and wealth mattered, some characters were poor, some were rich, and not owning an electric car was a hardship, not just a cheery sentimental thing in the scenery. Is he actually an engineer though, or does he just buy other people's businesses and let others do the work? I'm legit asking, I don't know what his credentials are beyond owning all the chaos emeralds.
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Like with Rowling and author, he's a children's fantasy engineer.
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Miftan posted:Is he actually an engineer though, or does he just buy other people's businesses and let others do the work? I'm legit asking, I don't know what his credentials are beyond owning all the chaos emeralds. He's a programmer who co-founded a company during the dot com bubble, that was bought out just before the bubble burst. Then he bought into Paypal, but was forced out of it after loving with the owners, then joined Telsa and forced the owners out of that. Pity that a shithead got so far from the dot com bubble, when it went I couldn't find a job for six years as graduated 2000. Edit: As for your question, he's as much an engineer now as PT Barnum is a quantum temporal warp theorist. Watch a presentation of him showing off his latest grift. Especially the cybertruck one. Btw, solar roofs, thats a Telsa project everyone forgot. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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The thing to remember about "anyone can become a billionaire if they work for it" is that the emphasis is on anyone, not anyone. Musk is where he is through a delicate balance of privilege, luck, and being a total oval office.
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Miftan posted:Is he actually an engineer though, or does he just buy other people's businesses and let others do the work? I'm legit asking, I don't know what his credentials are beyond owning all the chaos emeralds. No he isn't - certainly not in any sense of credentials or qualifications. His undergrad degree is in economics and physics. He started a Physics and Material Sciences PhD at Stanford but dropped out after a few days to write bad code for Zip2. By his own admission, most of his actual input into 'his' products is as a designer - what he called "aesthetics and look-and-feel things". When you're the boss you get to tell actual engineers to replace all the switches in your car with a giant touchscreen or that it must have gull-wing doors like the car you doodled when you were a kid, but that's not engineering.
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I hate Musk because I want my Cyberpunk villains to be like Mr House, not an epic meme guy.
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happyhippy posted:He's a programmer who co-founded a company during the dot com bubble, that was bought out just before the bubble burst. All of this to curtail his receding hairline, a lot of money and the ability to ''spin'' an idea. I really hope the space stuff works out, but a lot of the rest is iffy.
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It's amazing though that he spent millions in public money to try and gently caress up making a train only to fall short and gently caress up making a road.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I hate Musk because I want my Cyberpunk villains to be like Mr House, not an epic meme guy.
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Just Another Lurker posted:I really hope the space stuff works out, but a lot of the rest is iffy.
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I think if he does that we very clearly will not have to go to war with them, because they will blow themselves up. Either fighting or because the space teslas all went on fire.
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OwlFancier posted:I think if he does that we very clearly will not have to go to war with them, because they will blow themselves up. Either fighting or because the space teslas all went on fire. Gundam Wing except it lasts one episode and it's just the forces of Mars blowing up by themselves.
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Having attempted to play aurora 4x I think I am literally more qualified to fight the space war than elon musk is.
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I'm poo poo at X4:Foundations, but I bet I'd set up a space empire better than Elon would
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Also be a better space capitalist, clearly. Really can't wait for elon musk to die of something horrible because he ground up mars rocks and snorted it because he thought it would give him superpowers.
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Goonswarm are absolutely going to side with Musk, we'd be hosed.
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OwlFancier posted:Having attempted to play aurora 4x I think I am literally more qualified to fight the space war than elon musk is. Never forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bgMCNXzNtE
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Goonswarm are absolutely going to side with Musk, we'd be hosed. lol no, there can only be one space emperor
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Goonswarm are absolutely going to side with Musk, we'd be hosed. Remedial is LONG gone mate.
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Yeah the invisible hand plucks new trained nurses from the aether. It's certainly not just shuffling exactly the same resources around, while ensuring shareholders get their cut.
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The good thing is that saying that, Streeting is going to drain the last of the support from the 'yes but we need to stop the privatisation of the NHS' labour voters. I'm kidding, nobody actually listens to policy now tHe gRoWn uPs aRe bAcK iN cHaRgE
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crispix posted:oh i'm sure it will pay off, targeting those half dozen precious voters in every constituency in england who are tories but fancy voting for labour, for a change They may have voted straight tory for the last several decades, but they claim to have voted labour once in 1963 so we must listen to these swing voter's views!!!
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was there a not a recent bit about TP who iirc cowrote with gaiman and trans issues? JK Rowfan get in thebin please. The previous quoted idiot is who i mean every mention of jk just ARGGGGGGG utter trash human. deano fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jan 8, 2022 |
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deano posted:was there a not a recent bit about TP who iirc cowrote with gaiman and trans issues? JK Rowfan get in thebin please. Yes, TERFs claimed that TP would be GC and his daughter said he wouldn't be, and lots of readers pointed out characters like Cheery Littlebottom which were written in a way that implied he was a trans-ally.
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Lady Demelza posted:Yes, TERFs claimed that TP would be GC and his daughter said he wouldn't be, and lots of readers pointed out characters like Cheery Littlebottom which were written in a way that implied he was a trans-ally. I don't want to spoil the book for anyone who hasn't read it but Monstrous Regiment is the most blatantly feminist plus LGBT+ positive mainstream book of all time.
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Aidan_702 posted:This was literally the first hint that he was actually from the evil fascist universe Yeah but you can't think too harshly of him, we are also all from the evil fascist universe.
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Lady Demelza posted:Yes, TERFs claimed that TP would be GC and his daughter said he wouldn't be, and lots of readers pointed out characters like Cheery Littlebottom which were written in a way that implied he was a trans-ally. There was some impressively convoluted thinking involved in suggesting "maybe we should ignore all the subtext, allegory, references, matter-of-public-record internet posting and explicit theming within the books to consider the possibility that Pterry was opposed to trans* identities". Also "nah, there's no chance his daughter knew what he was like as a person, so you should trust my opinion as a journalist".
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One thing about Musk is that he kept making risky bets that paid off, right from starting his own business, through investing in paypal and ebay to investing and becoming chairman of 2 pretty crazy startups (Tesla and SpaceX) and somehow managing to come out ahead. There's an interesting CNBC interview/documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblPwXFb7TE) with the original Tesla founders which includes their views on Musk - not completely positive since they were forced out and all that, but they don't go into much detail because of settlements - and based on how they describe things he gave them money at a time when they really had nothing but an idea of what to make, they even admit they were surprised what all they needed to get production ready cars. e: Also they say a lot of the early knowhow came from UK Lotus which I thought was pretty interesting. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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