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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

CharlestheHammer posted:

This session of nitpicking a children’s book has gone on a suprisingly long time

its a really bad book, OP

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

CharlestheHammer posted:

This session of nitpicking a children’s book has gone on a suprisingly long time

maybe the author should shut the gently caress up then?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


https://twitter.com/CSMFHT/status/1479750120707031043

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Bottom Liner posted:

maybe the author should shut the gently caress up then?

I’m sure she’s feeling suitably owned

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

CharlestheHammer posted:

I’m sure she’s feeling suitably owned

shes probably gonna level another historic block over it

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

CharlestheHammer posted:

I’m sure she’s feeling suitably owned

please keep defending the honor of a bigot, its a great look

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012





Perhaps the real Sea People were the friends we made along the way?

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

Seems like a perfect fit for Kamala Harris

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Rowling's obvious literary origin is Enid Blyton, who wrote dozens of boarding school stories which Rowling 100% read because they were ubiquitous for women her age, and they were thoughtless, racist and cruel, just like Rowlings work.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

AlbieQuirky posted:

Diane Duane is the superior writer of children’s books about child wizards, fite me irl.

Neil Gaiman is the best writer of child wizards as is evidenced by the fact that Tim Hunter is a better Harry Potter than Harry Potter

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

RFC2324 posted:

its a really bad book, OP

I see more and more people doing this so I'm curious. When did the meaning of "OP" change from "user who made the thread" to "user I'm replying to"?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

isnt en passant the older of the two weird moves (castling being the slightly younger other one) and from the 1500s or so?

these two anicents seem to be doing well for their ages.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

PhazonLink posted:

isnt en passant the older of the two weird moves (castling being the slightly younger other one) and from the 1500s or so?

these two anicents seem to be doing well for their ages.

wikipedia says this is correct except castling was probably initially added earlier (possibly in the 14th century) than en passant, the latter being in the mid 15th century and at the same time as the initial 2 space move for pawns. unlimited movement range for queens and bishops came around the same time but not with en passant.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

ultrafilter posted:

I think Hermione's parents both worked, so maybe it's just wizards.
They're dentists.

also note that mrs. weasley goes toe-to-toe with like, the second most powerful evil wizard in the world? and doesn't instantly lose? why the gently caress couldn't she get a drat job as a fuckin wizard murdersquad cop or something

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Mak0rz posted:

I see more and more people doing this so I'm curious. When did the meaning of "OP" change from "user who made the thread" to "user I'm replying to"?

I think it's a twitter thing

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
its actually really rude to talk poo poo about the transphobic idiots book

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Mak0rz posted:

I see more and more people doing this so I'm curious. When did the meaning of "OP" change from "user who made the thread" to "user I'm replying to"?

It means both, and you have to determine which entirely though context.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Any Nazis appropriating Norse paganism are Southron Scum that should be shot.


Any neo-pagan org that doesn't specifically forbid racialist bullshit and erect nithing poles to curse right-wingers is bullshit.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




FreudianSlippers posted:

Any Nazis appropriating Norse paganism are Southron Scum that should be shot.

FTFY

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Mak0rz posted:

I see more and more people doing this so I'm curious. When did the meaning of "OP" change from "user who made the thread" to "user I'm replying to"?

when I got lazy about figuring out who I am actually replying too, for me. I see it all over tho.

I take it in the spirit of :justpost:

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Tenebrais posted:

I think what made Harry Potter so popular despite ultimately mediocre writing (at its best) was that it presented a fantasy world that was really easy for kids to slot themselves into and imagine themselves magic powers, especially with the whole "which is your house?" thing.

the "which is your house" thing is entirely an insufferable-potter-nerd kinda thing though
like the actual books focus on harry and his buds in gryffindor 90% of the time, slytherin is literally just "the evil badguys" and the other two houses are barely mentioned
nobody would actually care about hufflepuff or ravenclaw if they didn't interact with ""the fandom"" first

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Anyone who self identifies as Hufflepuff is an inherently boring human.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

DACK FAYDEN posted:

They're dentists.

also note that mrs. weasley goes toe-to-toe with like, the second most powerful evil wizard in the world? and doesn't instantly lose? why the gently caress couldn't she get a drat job as a fuckin wizard murdersquad cop or something
I feel like the logic is literally that she had too many kids and someone has to watch the kids. Except her kids go to boarding school. It's sort of implied wizards are homeschooled before they hit Hogwarts age and I can't remember if Ginny is a year or two younger than Ron, but once Ginny is in school there's no reason Mrs. Weasley couldn't pick up a job. Except I guess with her biggest skills revolving around being a housewife and wizarding society having literal slave elves maybe it's harder to get a job as a cook or housekeeper because of the literal slave class filling that role, but she's a pretty ferocious witch in her own regard so I'm not sure what she's supposed to be doing once everyone is in school...?

EDIT: Like I'll give that managing a large household on a small budget is a full-time job and a respectable one, moreso if she was supposed to be homeschooling all her kids before they turned 11, but it feels like Rowling settled into 'well this is how it is' every time Harry got to see the Weasley household (and thus people were home) and didn't consider what the gently caress Molly was doing the rest of the time.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

the "which is your house" thing is entirely an insufferable-potter-nerd kinda thing though
like the actual books focus on harry and his buds in gryffindor 90% of the time, slytherin is literally just "the evil badguys" and the other two houses are barely mentioned
nobody would actually care about hufflepuff or ravenclaw if they didn't interact with ""the fandom"" first

gryffindor - brave
ravenclaw - smart
slytherin - bad
hufflepuff - miscellaneous

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

PetraCore posted:

I feel like the logic is literally that she had too many kids and someone has to watch the kids. Except her kids go to boarding school. It's sort of implied wizards are homeschooled before they hit Hogwarts age and I can't remember if Ginny is a year or two younger than Ron, but once Ginny is in school there's no reason Mrs. Weasley couldn't pick up a job. Except I guess with her biggest skills revolving around being a housewife and wizarding society having literal slave elves maybe it's harder to get a job as a cook or housekeeper because of the literal slave class filling that role, but she's a pretty ferocious witch in her own regard so I'm not sure what she's supposed to be doing once everyone is in school...?

EDIT: Like I'll give that managing a large household on a small budget is a full-time job and a respectable one, moreso if she was supposed to be homeschooling all her kids before they turned 11, but it feels like Rowling settled into 'well this is how it is' every time Harry got to see the Weasley household (and thus people were home) and didn't consider what the gently caress Molly was doing the rest of the time.

Thats a lot more thought than Rowling put into it

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Whats worse

-people who identify with a HP house
-people who identify with a Myers-Briggs type

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Roblo posted:

Thats a lot more thought than Rowling put into it

Just like with everything in HP, it started as such because it was a recognizable and relatable trope that would play well in a book for children, especially with the focus on siblings aging into each other's clothes and inheriting battered hand-me-ons etc, and it simply didn't survive the transformation of the series from an adventure story for kids towards a terrible socio-political wannabe thriller for manchildren that happened at some point. It doesn't make sense in a story that has decided to take itself more "seriously", but also can¨t be thrown away because nerds would throw a shitfit.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

steinrokkan posted:

Whats worse

-people who identify with a HP house
-people who identify with a Myers-Briggs type

They both are.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Are they mutually exclusive?

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

its the same people

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

steinrokkan posted:

Just like with everything in HP, it started as such because it was a recognizable and relatable trope that would play well in a book for children, especially with the focus on siblings aging into each other's clothes and inheriting battered hand-me-ons etc, and it simply didn't survive the transformation of the series from an adventure story for kids towards a terrible socio-political wannabe thriller for manchildren that happened at some point. It doesn't make sense in a story that has decided to take itself more "seriously", but also can¨t be thrown away because nerds would throw a shitfit.

I generally assume the transition of the books over time is more to do with rowling not being edited properly because she had so much inertia, so the first book would have been like that too if she hadn't had a much more talented editor cutting all the dumb poo poo out.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

RoboRodent posted:

The best Narnia is Voyage of the Dawn Treader because it's SAILING SHIP ADVENTURES

at least, I felt like that as a kid

Were you haunted by the bit where the kid wakes up as a dragon or something and then has to peel off his skin over and over and over and over until he's himself again? I was.

I liked the swordfighting rat though.


en punchant

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

OwlFancier posted:

I generally assume the transition of the books over time is more to do with rowling not being edited properly because she had so much inertia, so the first book would have been like that too if she hadn't had a much more talented editor cutting all the dumb poo poo out.

As someone who has worked in publishing, this is correct. See also Anne Rice.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I thought Ann Rice was morebecause she fell in love with her character. So she needed wacky situations to make him look cool

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!
Ahem Reepicheep is a mouse. Jeez.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




PetraCore posted:

didn't consider what the gently caress Molly was doing the rest of the time.

OnlyWands


OwlFancier posted:

I generally assume the transition of the books over time is more to do with rowling not being edited properly because she had so much inertia, so the first book would have been like that too if she hadn't had a much more talented editor cutting all the dumb poo poo out.

Editors are for sure unsung heroes in books. It's one of the things I remember about Stephen King, despite not having read him in years, he always took the time to be like "massive thanks to my editor for her hard work in making this book as good as it is"

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

CharlestheHammer posted:

I thought Ann Rice was morebecause she fell in love with her character. So she needed wacky situations to make him look cool

She famously refused editing.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Man that was really pretentious for what her books ultimately are

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Hihohe posted:

I dont want my childrens books written by terfs

:hai:

There's a solution here I've found to work exceptionally well

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Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Memento posted:

:hai:

There's a solution here I've found to work exceptionally well



Jokes on you if you think I'm giving those to children
They're perfectly good for children it's just that I'd have one in hand, and hey might as well take a peek before giving it to Little Geoffrey here, and whoop guess I'm rereading the series again... It's a serious condition

I actually just finished the whole thing, with The Shepherd's Crown and the fact that so much other stuff is popular among people and Discworld is still niche is further proof we're in a bad timeline. Guess that's what happens when you're good but not necessarily marketable :smith:

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