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Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg
Oct 4, 2004

ha, ha, ha, og me ekam
I remember firing up Doom and Wolfenstein on my family's 286, then upgrading to a top of the line 386 and feeling like I could play absolutely anything.

X-Wing vs TIE Fighter, Wing Commander, Rogue Squadron, Quake. AIM and being able to chat with friends without being overheard. There weren't "influencers" and if you wanted to send an email you drat well better know the case...

Goddamn I miss the early days of the internet sometimes.

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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:

Goddamn I miss the early days of the internet sometimes.

I'm going to sound so old saying this, but Facebook really loving ruined everything. Also capitalism.

Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg
Oct 4, 2004

ha, ha, ha, og me ekam

LeeMajors posted:

I'm going to sound so old saying this, but Facebook really loving ruined everything. Also capitalism.

Yep, going to agree there. The switch from "experts are experts for a reason" to "everyone has an opinion that is valid" feels like it can be rooted in social media, and they're the granddaddy of them all.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:

Yep, going to agree there. The switch from "experts are experts for a reason" to "everyone has an opinion that is valid" feels like it can be rooted in social media, and they're the granddaddy of them all.

While I was in isolation last week, my brother in law recommended the new Battlefield game and when I asked how the campaign mode was, he was like "oh, it's multiplayer only."

gently caress, like, I'm 38 I dont play games to get murdered by 12 year olds with no responsibility who play 12hrs a day.

I just played Hades and RDR2 nonstop.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

LeeMajors posted:

I'm going to sound so old saying this, but Facebook really loving ruined everything. Also capitalism.

Facebook was inevitable. It’s really not that different in concept from AOL chat rooms. Just the chat rooms were a lot more isolated.

Capitalism, cronyism, and scammers are a plague. It really does seem like human nature to destroy ourselves.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Bird in a Blender posted:

Facebook was inevitable. It’s really not that different in concept from AOL chat rooms. Just the chat rooms were a lot more isolated.

Capitalism, cronyism, and scammers are a plague. It really does seem like human nature to destroy ourselves.

AOL chat rooms didn't have 5B subscribers.

Maybe it was inevitable. It's also been allowed to fester without regulation for 16ish years.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
I'm pretty certain the first PC game I had was Talonsoft's West Front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBMGixCduOg

That's the intro video and it is not representative of the game play at all. It's a John Tiller Campaign Series hex grog game that you can still get from Matrix Games and at best looked like this:



If you zoomed out more I think it went to the tradtional NATO counters and whatnot. I nonetheless sunk hundreds of hours into that game and still play a scenario or short campaign every few months.

Granted, we didn't get a PC until somewhat later (1998, maybe?), and also had either an original NES or N64 that got used constantly.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!
The first computer game I remember playing was that DOS chatbot psychologist, which on reflection may explain a lot

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:

Yep, going to agree there. The switch from "experts are experts for a reason" to "everyone has an opinion that is valid" feels like it can be rooted in social media, and they're the granddaddy of them all.

Somewhere, forgotten, Tom from myspace wipes a tear from his eye.

Thaddius the Large posted:

The first computer game I remember playing was that DOS chatbot psychologist, which on reflection may explain a lot

It wasn't the first I played but I remember playing Wasteland and balancing a baseball on the escape key and walking away and doing something else for a half hour to make time pass.

Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jan 11, 2022

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


I probably wasted more hours of my life on CivII than any other video game outside of maybe RDR/RDR2.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Mini feeds and Twitter, basically allowing folks to just react and freak out over headlines and share their outrage…. All while not even reading the actual source. That’s what has killed society.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

Braksgirl posted:

I got a Commodore 64 when I was 10 and I thought I was hot poo poo.

My daughter is getting mine, though once it's set up again I might be using it more than her. She too will know the agony of defeat in summer games.

At least she'll know where the save icon comes from (if "saving" is still a thing soon, rather than perpetual sync everywhere)

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Amy Pole Her posted:

Mini feeds and Twitter, basically allowing folks to just react and freak out over headlines and share their outrage…. All while not even reading the actual source. That’s what has killed society.

Yeah not the biggest fan.

I listened to three hours of podcast about Epstein today and it's pretty insane just how much has not been reported in the press at large.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

LeeMajors posted:

While I was in isolation last week, my brother in law recommended the new Battlefield game and when I asked how the campaign mode was, he was like "oh, it's multiplayer only."

gently caress, like, I'm 38 I dont play games to get murdered by 12 year olds with no responsibility who play 12hrs a day.

I just played Hades and RDR2 nonstop.

Getting continually murked in FPSs with no sign of improvement is unironically one of my first moments of “oh poo poo, I’m mortal. I’m old.”

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Pokemon go... to the unemployment line!

https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1480659597329375238?t=O1P4UxL8WcYqD0dPRnxmdQ&s=19

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Kanto Region declared gang.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

LeeMajors posted:

AOL chat rooms didn't have 5B subscribers.

Maybe it was inevitable. It's also been allowed to fester without regulation for 16ish years.

Well that’s what I meant by “in concept”. It’s a bunch of people talking to each other about shared interests. Facebook just took that to the extreme, but with the increasing speed of the internet, something like it was always going to come around.

Agreed that the total lack of regulation has been a problem. Our government has been fairly hands off the internet, and Congress is painfully slow to react to anything. If Zuck wasn’t a blood sucking capitalist, he would’ve taken control, but the kind of people who are CEO of tech companies aren’t exactly progressive thinkers.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Kronos can eat my rear end, they need to hurry up and get their poo poo back up my fingers are about to fall off and eyeballs fall out of my head trying to get dozens and dozens of people’s missing paychecks paid as fast as possible all day every day because managers just gonna do manager things and not follow our temporary mitigation instructions to get their employees’ time to us for their regular payroll

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Bird in a Blender posted:

Well that’s what I meant by “in concept”. It’s a bunch of people talking to each other about shared interests. Facebook just took that to the extreme, but with the increasing speed of the internet, something like it was always going to come around.

Agreed that the total lack of regulation has been a problem. Our government has been fairly hands off the internet, and Congress is painfully slow to react to anything. If Zuck wasn’t a blood sucking capitalist, he would’ve taken control, but the kind of people who are CEO of tech companies aren’t exactly progressive thinkers.

Yeah, I get what you're saying but AOL, IRC, BBSs, stuff like that weren't subject to a malignant algorithm and the sort of automated funneling toward extreme ends of every ideology and interest.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
The algorithm keeps recommending me social media pages about corgis, not quite two months after we had put ours down. The algorithm can kiss my rear end!

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


C-Euro posted:

The algorithm keeps recommending me social media pages about corgis, not quite two months after we had put ours down. The algorithm can kiss my rear end!

Gah gently caress that sucks

I quit facebook in 2010, briefly rejoined in 2016 like an idiot and noped out immediately.

It is an irredeemable cesspool and I say that as a nearly 20 year SA poweruser.

LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jan 11, 2022

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


T-Square posted:

Kronos can eat my rear end, they need to hurry up and get their poo poo back up my fingers are about to fall off and eyeballs fall out of my head trying to get dozens and dozens of people’s missing paychecks paid as fast as possible all day every day because managers just gonna do manager things and not follow our temporary mitigation instructions to get their employees’ time to us for their regular payroll

Right but they have one of those "Best Place to work!" banners outside so they have to be good right?

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

LeeMajors posted:

Yeah, I get what you're saying but AOL, IRC, BBSs, stuff like that weren't subject to a malignant algorithm and the sort of automated funneling toward extreme ends of every ideology and interest.

Also those entities allowed internet anonymity (which has pros and cons).

There is something deeply unsettling that people are now born into the internet where your internet presence is actually connected to your name, face, and lived experiences.

From a growth perspective, people do dumb poo poo. Cringe occurs in the space between doing dumb poo poo and being a better person. But with the internet the dumb event is locked in electronic history. Society needs to be way more forgiving and growth oriented for that to be okay and obviously our society is not there.

It’s also weird as gently caress to have kids talk about “their brand” as they try and build their social media presence.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Ornery and Hornery posted:

Also those entities allowed internet anonymity (which has pros and cons).

There is something deeply unsettling that people are now born into the internet where your internet presence is actually connected to your name, face, and lived experiences.

From a growth perspective, people do dumb poo poo. Cringe occurs in the space between doing dumb poo poo and being a better person. But with the internet the dumb event is locked in electronic history. Society needs to be way more forgiving and growth oriented for that to be okay and obviously our society is not there.

It’s also weird as gently caress to have kids talk about “their brand” as they try and build their social media presence.

Yeah, we would all be hosed if our teenaged internet selves were crystallized for all to see for the rest of our lives.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







LeeMajors posted:

Yeah, we would all be hosed if our teenaged internet selves were crystallized for all to see for the rest of our lives.

I think over the next thirty years that’ll go away since basically everyone is going to have some cringe poo poo from their past.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

What do you all think the future of elected officials and CEOs looks like?

There will come a time* when humans were all born into the social media age. People will have their Facebook pages or their Reddit posting histories locked into electronic history.

Does that mean we will see an acceptance of dumb/offensive poo poo that kids say as a different point in that person’s life cycle? Does that mean that it will be weaponized so that individuals who serve the system have it ignored while those who challenge the system are punished (ex/ Biden’s atrocities swept out of national media, fake outrage about Bernie amplified).

Or does that mean that the future is nothing but Buttigeigs. Little sociopaths calculating every move.

*pending survival of plague, climate change, etc.

E: two of you angels are already ahead of my post :)

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







We’ll absolutely vote for someone in the next ten years who had an onlyfans. Probably a cat girl or something.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Ornery and Hornery posted:


Or does that mean that the future is nothing but Buttigeigs. Little sociopaths calculating every move.


I think it's more likely this. Calculating little shits who curate their entire public personas from grade-school up will rise to the top.


Actually, after thinking about it for one second, we are so polarized it doesn't matter who is running. 60M+ people voted for Trump twice. No one cares.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
If I ever run for any elected position I will definitely be doing a thorough review of any and all public-facing social media, up to and including a total wipe if necessary. And even then I'll wait a year for Facebook to take that poo poo off of their servers for good.

At least with my SA account I had mostly learned about good online etiquette before I registered here because I was deathly afraid of getting banned and being out the tenbux lmao

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

BlindSite posted:

Yeah not the biggest fan.

I listened to three hours of podcast about Epstein today and it's pretty insane just how much has not been reported in the press at large.

Who you listening too? I just started listening to ALAB and they have an episode about his connections with Deutschbank.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

FizFashizzle posted:

We’ll absolutely vote for someone in the next ten years who had an onlyfans. Probably a cat girl or something.

I mean…*gestures vaguely at most of our currently elected officials*

They got my vote

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

FizFashizzle posted:

We’ll absolutely vote for someone in the next ten years who had an onlyfans. Probably a cat girl or something.

Still waiting for the first openly furry politician.

Heck, porn stars have run for governor of CA before.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

LeeMajors posted:

Yeah, I get what you're saying but AOL, IRC, BBSs, stuff like that weren't subject to a malignant algorithm and the sort of automated funneling toward extreme ends of every ideology and interest.

That's true, but IRC in particular was home to a lot of malignant poo poo. There was some incredibly awful poo poo that got passed around in the #wcnews channel on DALnet back in the day.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


seiferguy posted:

Still waiting for the first openly furry politician.

Heck, porn stars have run for governor of CA before.

A furry and a porn star will be elected president before an Atheist.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Timby posted:

My fashion is so boring. I basically wear jeans and a button-down shirt, occasionally with a sweater, and that's been my style for like 20 years.

Edit: Hell, my haircut / style hasn't changed in 20 years.
My haircut hasn't changed in 15 years because once you go bald, you go bald.

Tulalip Tulips posted:

Sim City 2000 was one of my first real computer games and also my first real forum experience as I searched across the internet for the unlimited money cheat code.
Sim City 2000 was the first time I stayed up all night playing a computer game.

Sure I stayed up late playing Nintendo a few times, but SC2K was the first time I got totally lost in a game.


The manual was amazing, it even had philosophy about city management and all kinds of lore. Loved it.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 11, 2022

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

But Vogue obviously isn't a trend setter these days, mainly just reporting the news after it happened.

Reporting the news before it happens seems like it would be quite the challenge....

CannonFodder posted:

My haircut hasn't changed in 15 years because once you go bald, you go bald.

I started cutting my own hair during the pandemic and now I'm totally used to it. It's a bit of a weird process, not to mention a weird haircut, but it works for me. Overall I've had the same basic haircut and beard since college

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

Wordle is good

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
In today's bullet dodged news, the caregiver at our daycare tested positive last Thursday, coincidentally our 10 month old was home Thu and fri. Today she was out for other reasons and we learned one of the infants who is in the room tested positive as well, and they are closing it for the rest of the week.

My luck is going to run out at some point I'm sure.

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

Qwijib0 posted:

In today's bullet dodged news, the caregiver at our daycare tested positive last Thursday, coincidentally our 10 month old was home Thu and fri. Today she was out for other reasons and we learned one of the infants who is in the room tested positive as well, and they are closing it for the rest of the week.

My luck is going to run out at some point I'm sure.
https://twitter.com/ssactrub/status/1479278626747072513?s=20

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CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Qwijib0 posted:

In today's bullet dodged news, the caregiver at our daycare tested positive last Thursday, coincidentally our 10 month old was home Thu and fri. Today she was out for other reasons and we learned one of the infants who is in the room tested positive as well, and they are closing it for the rest of the week.

My luck is going to run out at some point I'm sure.

My sister is going through the same mess, my 4yo niece tested positive last week so her daycare had to close the class for her class and my 2yo niece's class. Then yesterday my sister started feeling sick.

The 4yo is fine and dandy now, she bounced back quick. The 2yo tested negative and now there's a rigamarole about when she can return to daycare.

Oh and the 4yo tried to give herself a hair cut because she was bored. It's fine. Kids.

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