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Nothing to contribute on the DPS Phantom data but just wanted to note that there is infuriating little real data or objective testing that I can find on it. Just a bunch of people reciting advertising copy or saying it feels pretty good. No one seems to be able to quantify how close to wax it is and how durable it is. EDIT: Searching back in the thread, someone who can actually contribute is incredibleigloo who got the treatment and seems to like it. Hopefully he can chime in and provide his experience. Yuns fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Blister Review has comments and reviews on DPS Phantom from at least four of their reviewers As with their ski reviews, I found them to be informative. Though all of these are from the first season, none are long term. There is also a 14-page thread on the TGR forums spanning 2018-2021 with people discussing it. General consensus appears to be positive. I was also considering it on the Moments I have coming, this is the first new skis I've bought since the Phantom treatment came out. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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least snowfall on record for VT  MRG was ski on lifts this morning which is good because you need the whole lift to yourself, by the time you bring the ice skates and boots with chains on them that you'll need for parts of the terrain  whatever, I'll ski on ice, it goes fast, brrrr
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I have had phantom dps on one set of skis for about 3 years now I think, and one set of skis for one year. I like it and plan to have it applied to all my skis. It is mostly a convenience thing for me. They don't ski quite as good as the first day of a new wax, but they are consistent and ski at like 80% of a good wax. You can wax the skis in addition if you really want to.
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I did not realize you could wax on top of phantom How does it work in wet sticky snow? As well as a high fluoro performance wax?
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Cabbages and Kings posted:least snowfall on record for VT
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Varg posted:I'm headed up to Bretton Woods the week of the 24th so I'm constantly checking the weather, they're forecasted for 10-15 inches on Monday, and looks like VT is gonna get some of that too. yup, I have my fingers crossed and told my boss I am noping out of work for a couple days if we get anything real!  Has anyone ever gone skiing on a tab of acid? It's something I've wanted to do since about 1998 and just never have. Obviously I would take it easy and stick to easier runs, and have sober people with me and all the normal poo poo one does if consuming weird drugs in public while also wanting to exist in a society.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:yup, I have my fingers crossed and told my boss I am noping out of work for a couple days if we get anything real!
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Friend: hey were going skiing in the middle of the week in March in Park City you should come. Me: we should try the Marriott or the Westgate or Peaks Friend: they are all three sold out. wtf
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Cabbages and Kings posted:yup, I have my fingers crossed and told my boss I am noping out of work for a couple days if we get anything real! Yeah. The thought I had at one point was "boy I've been in the air a long time this is crazy!" And then realized I was basically sitting down on an air bench after launching the biggest jump in the albeit very small park. Then I landed on my rear end!
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kiimo posted:Friend: hey were going skiing in the middle of the week in March in Park City you should come. Spring Break
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Cabbages and Kings posted:yup, I have my fingers crossed and told my boss I am noping out of work for a couple days if we get anything real! A half tab or less is about right for me, usually on a sunny day when I知 going to hike to ski. Full tab+ at the closing day party.
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spwrozek posted:Spring Break Yeah I guess. I'm old and don't remember how this works but my spring breaks were always late in March instead of like March 9 when I was going to go but maybe everyone else that is old is scheduling early in March to avoid spring breakers
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There is a good chance the Park City patrollers will be on strike by then so consider telling your friend you're not interested in crossing a picket line and would rather ski one of the many other, better mountains in the SLC region.
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Lots of places to stay near Deer Valley but that's a little too fleece for my flannel crowd
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perhaps they'd be more comfortable in a Motel 6 in SLC and skiing at Solitude, where you get the added benefit of not undermining a ski patroller strike
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Think they値l still be on strike then? Given how negotiations have been going I壇 expect them to kick things off as soon as this weekend, and vail to fold long before spring break.
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I would expect Vail to attempt to break the union by hiring scabs (and just generally operating PCMR severely understaffed) and delaying any agreement until long after this season. They've already been trying to negotiate a new contract for over a year, to fold within weeks of a strike would send a powerful message to all other Vail employees that unionization and strikes are a ticket to labor victory. That is exactly the opposite of the message Vail is trying to send here.
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I don't see how they're going to get scabs unless they pay them ridiculous amounts which would seem to defeat the message Vail wants to send. Other mountains in the area are paying $2.50 more and some are having issues finding staff.
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Paying scabs way more than the union they're undermining is a time-honored tactic, companies do it all the time. If they can get through the season on scab labor, they can force the union back to the bargaining table in a much weaker position. One great example is the modern phenomena of travel nurses, who make double or triple what their permanent colleagues get but their entire function is to be scab labor. Since they are only ever in one location for a few months at a time, they have no chance to put down roots and build solidarity to make collective demands.
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The article going around Whistler that I'm too lazy to dig up is saying they're offering scabs $600 a day plus travel expenses. But I've only seen the headline, I don't know how true it is so uh massive chunk of salt.
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There may be a deal reached with no strike according to this article: https://www.parkrecord.com/news/park-city/vail-resorts-pcmr-ski-patrol-reach-tentative-deal-likely-averting-a-strike/
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That's good news, it means the threat of a strike worked.
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@epicliftlines and @ski_the_memes_of_production on instagram are both covering the extremely poor working and skiing conditions affecting Vail resorts right now and are actively trying to improve the situation so chuck them a follow if you care. the only thing I can say about the situation as an Australian is "everything they are complaining about is exactly the same here but has been for longer and for way worse quality resorts" so I sympathise with em. Vail purchased Perisher Valley in 2015.
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bawfuls posted:Paying scabs way more than the union they're undermining is a time-honored tactic, companies do it all the time. If they can get through the season on scab labor, they can force the union back to the bargaining table in a much weaker position. I'm also really curious if Vail could bring in scab patrollers. You can't just exactly grab random people off the street who could run a loaded sled down expert terrain, let alone the bombing. I'm skeptical there are enough people Vail could poach from other resorts to staff PC without those people being ostracized from their current patrol, but also lol on them being able to do good bombing. If PC patrol went on strike and the mountain didn't close, it's basically Vail assuming no serious injuries would occur which in this lawsuit heavy era is lol.
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HookShot posted:The article going around Whistler that I'm too lazy to dig up is saying they're offering scabs $600 a day plus travel expenses. But I've only seen the headline, I don't know how true it is so uh massive chunk of salt. The @altnatskipatrol IG account posted an email sent to Attitash patrollers offering that $600, and the SL Trib confirmed it was real. Vail of course said they didn稚 know about it. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2022/01/08/vail-resorts-prepares/
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They値l have to offer a bunch of cash to do it, but that appears to be their plan.
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More than the difficulty of finding folks with the necessary skills, I'm wondering about the impact of having a patrol lacking local institutional knowledge, which as I've gathered (perhaps incorrectly) is a rather important thing with avalanche safety in particular at resorts. Knowing the specific terrain and equipment. I wonder how Vail would view the risks associated with running the resort without that.
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A lot of local news coverage lately has been about how bad things are at Steven痴 Pass so Vail fired the GM there and brought over some interim guy. Unless he can offer more money or housing for staff I知 not sure what he値l do differently. He at least has a history with the mountain, I guess? They also opened a second level chair for the first time this season! But only because they couldnt start some of the other base chairs following the winter storm over the last week. Assuming they dont get another one working soon it値l just be the single base lift for the three day weekend 
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Tweak posted:A lot of local news coverage lately has been about how bad things are at Steven’s Pass so Vail fired the GM there and brought over some interim guy. Unless he can offer more money or housing for staff I’m not sure what he’ll do differently. He at least has a history with the mountain, I guess? I can't imagine how awful that would be
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Steve French posted:More than the difficulty of finding folks with the necessary skills, I'm wondering about the impact of having a patrol lacking local institutional knowledge, which as I've gathered (perhaps incorrectly) is a rather important thing with avalanche safety in particular at resorts. Knowing the specific terrain and equipment. I wonder how Vail would view the risks associated with running the resort without that.
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spwrozek posted:Spring Break Bring Steak. Gonna meet a buddy who moved down to Arvada tomorrow for some early laps. Due to some life changes (new child), I have not been able to even test out my new Golden Orca yet. I watched (and shoveled) that last storm system. None the less, turns are turns. Looking forward to it.
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Steve French posted:More than the difficulty of finding folks with the necessary skills, I'm wondering about the impact of having a patrol lacking local institutional knowledge, which as I've gathered (perhaps incorrectly) is a rather important thing with avalanche safety in particular at resorts. Knowing the specific terrain and equipment. I wonder how Vail would view the risks associated with running the resort without that. Institutional knowledge is huge and each resort is different. Where is all your gear stored about the mountain? What are local nicknames for things without official names? What safety signage (slow banners, fencing, trails merging, discos on bamboo, etc) needs to go where? What's the best way down with a sled to the accident or with an injured person? Where might I need a snowmobile to help me pull across long flats or whatever. How do we lift evac the chairlift? All the bits of avalanche mitigation (which I can't speak to). What are the mountain's radio procedure? Like yeah, they could get scabs I'm sure that could medically do the job, but that's not enough, and I think Vail know this and perhaps why they finally folded after the PC patrol overwhelmingly approved a strike. Master_Odin fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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So snowbird lost a lot of their senior snow safety team and that's exactly what we have been seeing - terrain takes longer to open now because they lost a lot of the institutional knowledge about where to bomb, what to ski cut, where things usually drain, etc etc. Had a couple instances of new patrollers being taken for rides while doing control work. Luckily no deaths. It's so short sighted but also, American capitalism to a T.
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Lmfao just lmfao Edit: on the mountain at Ajax by 930! Not bad. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 15, 2022 |
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This winter is the worst. No snow to too much snow to 40F and Vail is loving it all up even worse by running Stevens Pass half staffed.
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Residency Evil posted:Lmfao just lmfao What time did you leave denver?
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spwrozek posted:What time did you leave denver? 515. There was traffic already building around the hill. Stopped in Avon for coffee, dropped my stuff off at my hotel, and walked to the lift. First time skiing here. Ajax is great.
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Dude my new hella wide (28cm) heritage loving rips and I get launched so hard on these groomer rollers. Much fast, many pop
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