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TinTower posted:Basically, Plato was the Greek version of Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson. That would be Simon "Saint Peter" the apostle.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Fun fact: You could have gone with "Biggie" here, but you didn't.
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If the Greeks were anything like the Romans, seems they had a tendency to go by nicknames a lot in personal and formal life, probably because there were only like twenty formal names to go around. See also 'Caesar'. And it works pretty much exactly like mob nicknames, which in general is an excellent example for describing Roman life given those social norms are literally what the Mafia is based on.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:If the Greeks were anything like the Romans, seems they had a tendency to go by nicknames a lot in personal and formal life, probably because there were only like twenty formal names to go around. My favorite example of this is Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, aka Caligula. The hobnailed marching sandals worn by the Roman army at the time were called "caligae", and wee little Gaius would follow his papa around on campaign. He had a little uniform and sandals of his own that he would wear around, because kids are kids and parents are parents. The soldiers nicknamed him "Caligula", the diminutive form of "caligae". Essentially the Roman emperor whose name is today synonymous with madness and depravity was known as "Bootsie".
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Big Plato Pump is your hookup, holla if you hear me!
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frankenfreak posted:Big Plato Pump is your hookup, holla if you hear me! Science-fiction author Plato, creator of the Atlantis. Wrestler and Philosopher (for his friends)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:If the Greeks were anything like the Romans, seems they had a tendency to go by nicknames a lot in personal and formal life, probably because there were only like twenty formal names to go around. The Greek and Roman naming systems were completely different, and it was actually really unusual for Greeks to have nicknames, or the equivalent of cognomina (like "Caesar"). This was in part because the pool of Greek names in use in most communities in the ancient world was really diverse; usually if a person needed to differentiate themselves from a namesake, they either within their own community used their tribal or demotic affiliation as a secondary identifier (i.e. Demetrios of Halai Aixonides), or outside of their own community used their ethnic (i.e. Demetrios of Athens).
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Are there a lot of aquatic incestuous dutch?
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SlothfulCobra posted:Are there a lot of aquatic incestuous dutch? Kinda? On the northeast of that bubble, you got Urk. Used to be an island of fishermen, but since they turned the surrounding sea into a polder it's reachable from dry land. They never got rid of their extremely insular culture though. Very conservative, don't want anything to do with outsiders, lowest vaccination percentage of the whole country. On the southwest you got Volendam. Also a traditional fishing village although not an island. It's also quite famous for having a rather conservative culture of its own, and for preferring to spend time amongst themselves.
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Carbon dioxide posted:On the southwest you got Volendam. Also a traditional fishing village although not an island. It's also quite famous for having a rather conservative culture of its own, and for preferring to spend time amongst themselves. You forgot to mention its terribly dumb music
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Lemniscate Blue posted:My favorite example of this is Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, aka Caligula. I'm reminded of El Chapo, one of the most famous gangsters/drug lords of all time, whose name means "Shorty" because he's a small dude. Funny how diminutive nicknames can stick around even after someone ascends to power. I bet he really didn't like that name at first.
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Count Roland posted:I'm reminded of El Chapo, one of the most famous gangsters/drug lords of all time, whose name means "Shorty" because he's a small dude. Funny how diminutive nicknames can stick around even after someone ascends to power. I bet he really didn't like that name at first. Toto Riina was also called Shorty. Don't trust short men
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Mexican culture is extremely nickname based. Rejecting his nickname out of pride would be like pissing on the tricolor
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Rejecting a nickname would only make his nickname stick harder I bet
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My favorite thing about Mexican nicknames is that they're almost always like, whatever it is you're the most self conscious about yourself. So many motherfuckers just go their whole lives being called Baldy or Fatty or Clumsy Idiot by everyone, including everyone who loves them. It owns.
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After about 20 pages I realized this wasn’t a really long US Pol derail it was a hilarious map thread I had never opened before. Thank you for the laughs.
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I bet Capone wasn't fond of Scarface but mob nicknames æ, like facts, don't care about your feelings.
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Nicknames are dumb as hell, what's so difficult about calling people by their name?
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Kenning posted:My favorite thing about Mexican nicknames is that they're almost always like, whatever it is you're the most self conscious about yourself. So many motherfuckers just go their whole lives being called Baldy or Fatty or Clumsy Idiot by everyone, including everyone who loves them. It owns. Also don't forget the mildly racist ones like Chino or Guera I used to teach at a school that was mostly Hispanic students and this one short dark skin kid, every one called "Mowgli"
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Space Kablooey posted:Rejecting a nickname would only make his nickname stick harder I bet Having attempted to reject a nickname in middle school I can attest to this. It became so entrenched people didn't know any other name for me.
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I feel like anyone that was actually your friend would call you by whatever name you preferred and only assholes would continue using some moronic nickname. I'm going to grad school at the University of Washington and as part of orientation they ask you which name you prefer people to call you as well as ask you to record yourself pronouncing it for your profile in the school's system. I think it's a pretty good system for ensuring people are referred to by their preferred name.
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Mustang posted:I feel like anyone that was actually your friend would call you by whatever name you preferred and only assholes would continue using some moronic nickname. That'd been nice, yeah.
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Mustang posted:Nicknames are dumb as hell, what's so difficult about calling people by their name? There were six people with my Christian name in my small class in high school.
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Have a better name.
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Minenfeld! posted:Have a better name. Wasn't up to me, sadly.
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Mustang posted:Nicknames are dumb as hell, what's so difficult about calling people by their name? Nicknames are awesome what the hell
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You could have gone with "Biggie" here, but you didn't. On this topic based on statues of him, I'm convinced that Socrates didn't altogether not resemble Raekwon of the Wu Tang Clan.
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Mustang posted:Nicknames are dumb as hell, what's so difficult about calling people by their name? Sorry you got "Copronymus".
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Mustang posted:Nicknames are dumb as hell, what's so difficult about calling people by their name? I am more fond of nicknames, because thers more variety in nicknames, where is normal to find more than one John or one Maria in a room. Ideally we would have 64 bits UID's instead of both. Tei fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:My favorite example of this is Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, aka Caligula. I’m partial to Charlemagne, or as his friends knew him, “Big Chuck”.
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There's a bridge named after president Pehr Evind Svinhufvud in Naantali, but it's officially Geezer Pete's Bridge because that's what people called him. (Well, Ukko-Pekka, but I have done the unthinkable and translated a proper name for the benefit of foreigners.) FUN FACT: svinhufvud means swine head. Here's a picture of s/s Ukko-Pekka sailing under Ukko-Pekka Bridge (the one in the foreground): 
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Platystemon posted:I’m partial to Charlemagne, or as his friends knew him, “Big Chuck”. IIRC his mother was basically known as Bigfoot Bertha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrada_of_Laon
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It's not in what they call you. It's why.
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With his parents being Pepin the Short and Bertha Broadfoot, Charlemagne had a lot to live up to and big shoes to fill.
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What I love is how that sticks around with your progeny sometimes for millennia. Robert Curthose comes to mind, whose name may have come from a nickname his father gave him meaning "short stockings" and now there's probably thousands of people out there with some spelling variation of that for a last name. That's like if I called my kid "Silly Butt" then, hundreds of years on, there's entire families of Sylibuts out there. John Sillebot, Anne Selibut, what have you. Strange.
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Getting back to the Roman example, that's exactly how cognomina worked. The Romans had a pretty rigid system of a handful (literally only about 15) of praenomina (i.e. Gaius) paired with nomina, or family names (i.e. Julius), but this naturally led to a bunch of people with the same name running around. So pretty early on cognomina were formally adopted to differentiate between different individuals, but they were basically just nicknames, and a lot of them were descriptive or derogatory, like Calvus (bald), Rufus (redhead), etc. Some families got real weird with cognomina. The famous Calpurnii had five branches: Bestia (beast) Bibulus (drunkard) Flamma (flame) Lanarius (woolworker) Piso (grinder) Incidentally, there's a whole bunch of legume cognomina, most famously Cicero (chickpea), whose cognomen supposedly derived from the fact that his ancestor's nose resembled a chickpea.
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MeinPanzer posted:Getting back to the Roman example, that's exactly how cognomina worked. The Romans had a pretty rigid system of a handful (literally only about 15) of praenomina (i.e. Gaius) paired with nomina, or family names (i.e. Julius), but this naturally led to a bunch of people with the same name running around. It's not that weird. Like in most major European languages, some family names in Dutch also derive from nicknames. There's a few spicy ones in Flanders: - Quaghebuer (evil neighbour) - Onghena (no mercy) - Onraedt (ill counsel) - Verdoodt (from death) - Malfait (ill-made) > technically a French surname, but still
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