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Gaz-L posted:Ah yes, AEW, famous for ejecting fans for yelling NEEDLE-DICK at MJF or KENNY NO-BALLS or FAT-FACED DIPSHIT. How dare they throw one transphobe out! That'll only leave 6898 fans in the building! Yeah, well, but if they had added one instead of ejecting one we'd be sitting at 6900 so it's impossible to tell if transphobia is good or bad.
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collocation posted:Nope. He never had it. Was on a committee during the downswing iirc. He was also on the WWF creative time for most of 1996-1997. First it was him, Vince McMahon, and Bruce Prichard, with Bruce eventually taking a detour to Talent Relations and Vince Russo joining the team in his place. He was writing TV for them as things started to turn around, so he deserves some credit there, too. As SMW goes, a lot of salt needs to be taken with a lot of the attendance figures we have. For the big successful shows, they seem more or less accurate, but for spot shows and lesser-drawing Knoxville and Johnson City shows? They're all over the place and Brian Hildebrand was often padding the figures he sent to the Observer. I forget which one it is, but there's one Johnson City card from 1995 where the figure in the Observer was somewhat respectable, but if you watched the clips on TV, it was VERY obvious that the number was bullshit. I mean it was "we had to reconfigure the arena to make this look presentable on TV" bad. OVW and ROH I shouldn't have to explain. In summary? As a member of a team, he's had some success. As the head booker, he hasn't really had much on any kind of consistent basis. For shows that weren't greatly assisted by big, current WWF names, his biggest successes would be Night of Legends (~5,000 fans), a couple other Knoxville shows that drew 3,000-4,000-ish (like the "Bob Armstrong WILL send Jim Cornette out in an ambulance!" show), and some of the Bluegrass Brawl shows in Pikeville, Kentucky. Johnson City never hit an announced 2,000.
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davidbix posted:He was also on the WWF creative time for most of 1996-1997. First it was him, Vince McMahon, and Bruce Prichard, with Bruce eventually taking a detour to Talent Relations and Vince Russo joining the team in his place. He was writing TV for them as things started to turn around, so he deserves some credit there, too. i choose to interpret this as jim cornette being responsible for the Godwinns being loving omnipresent in the WWF for those two years
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Alaois posted:i choose to interpret this as jim cornette being responsible for the Godwinns being loving omnipresent in the WWF for those two years I take it you don’t know of Vince’s hillbilly fetish
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davidbix posted:He was on the WCW booking committee from Summer 1989 through Spring 1990 or thereabouts. When Flair was head booker, he mainly focused on his own programs and left writing the TV to Cornette and Kevin Sullivan. He absolutely deserves credit for the quality of the TV at that time and the ratings turnaround after the disastrous George Scott booking run tanked them. (Most famously, the weekend with Flair-Pillman and Flair/Arn-Rock 'n' Roll Express headlining the evening TBS shows set new TBS wrestling viewership records and drew the highest ratings for those shows—since cable ratings use the network's universe as the denominator—since 1985.) Wrestle War '90 was also the most successful early WCW pay-per-view, IIRC. House shows were not doing well, but it's pre-Zane Bresloff WCW and with hindsight, it's hard to know how much of that was driven by the product as opposed to bad live event promotion. But yes, AEW probably averages more paid fans per show than that run of WCW did. The Wrestlenomics data puts GAB 90 above Wrestlewar.
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MassRafTer posted:The Wrestlenomics data puts GAB 90 above Wrestlewar.
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Cornette (regarding a disgusting transphobic sign): "People are too sensitive these days!" Also Cornette: (someone has a sign supporting a heel in SMW): "We're editing that out of TV!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSyYLRBhtY&t=122s
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Cornette has been well documented saying the problem with today's wrestlers is that they're not loving the women who come to the show and aggressively encouraged wrestlers like Chris Jericho to get out there and gently caress. Combine that with Jim's views on age of consent and...
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I'm glad Chris Jericho took Cornette's money, did not gently caress any of the women at SMW shows, and also did not draw in SMW, causing Cornette to lose even more money. Then he went off to be famous elsewhere, just a complete success story.
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Cornett wants wrestling to go back to a time when all the wrestlers were pedophiles
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Ringo Roadagain posted:Cornett wants wrestling to go back to a time when all the wrestlers were pedophiles Jim wants the world to go back to when he could get an erection without watching someone gently caress his wife, warts and all.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Cornette has been well documented saying the problem with today's wrestlers is that they're not loving the women who come to the show and aggressively encouraged wrestlers like Chris Jericho to get out there and gently caress. Combine that with Jim's views on age of consent and... He also got mad at Lance Storm for bringing his wife to SMW events and generally not being willing to tank his marriage to protect kayfabe in Shitsplat, KY.
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Ringo Roadagain posted:Cornett wants wrestling to go back to a time when all the wrestlers were pedophiles why doesn't he move to the UK to book?
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CombineThresher posted:He also got mad at Lance Storm for bringing his wife to SMW events and generally not being willing to tank his marriage to protect kayfabe in Shitsplat, KY.
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davidbix posted:Not quite: In a lot of territories, particularly the one (Memphis) where Jim broke in, having regular sex with fans was considered good for business because it would help them draw female fans and drawing female fans led to drawing more young male fans. It wasn't a kayfabe violation thing, but it was still weird and dumb. Yeah. As I remember it Jericho writes in his book that Cornette was mad at them both for not loving any of the hillbilly fans. Jericho said "Well, Lance is married and I have standards."
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davidbix posted:Not quite: In a lot of territories, particularly the one (Memphis) where Jim broke in, having regular sex with fans was considered good for business because it would help them draw female fans and drawing female fans led to drawing more young male fans. It wasn't a kayfabe violation thing, but it was still weird and dumb. I was referring to the kayfabe that Lance was single and thereby attainable, but yes that's true about Memphis for sure.
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davidbix posted:Not quite: In a lot of territories, particularly the one (Memphis) where Jim broke in, having regular sex with fans was considered good for business because it would help them draw female fans and drawing female fans led to drawing more young male fans. It wasn't a kayfabe violation thing, but it was still weird and dumb. Are you telling me that the Memphis territory with Jerry Lawler and Randy Savage had a paedophilia problem!?
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CombineThresher posted:I was referring to the kayfabe that Lance was single and thereby attainable, but yes that's true about Memphis for sure.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Are you telling me that the Memphis territory with Jerry Lawler and Randy Savage had a paedophilia problem!?
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davidbix posted:Not quite: In a lot of territories, particularly the one (Memphis) where Jim broke in, having regular sex with fans was considered good for business because it would help them draw female fans and drawing female fans led to drawing more young male fans. It wasn't a kayfabe violation thing, but it was still weird and dumb. destroyer told a really funny story on some wor he was on about how one of his seniors told him you gotta sleep with the ugly women because if you just sleep with the hot ones the ugly ones would think they have no chance and would stop coming. destroyer thought it was a rib before the logic behind it was explained to him.
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he's been wearing those glasses for decades, of course he's going to defend pedophiles
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Orange Carlisle posted:he's been wearing those glasses for decades, of course he's going to defend pedophiles  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmAz3CotdbU
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I always worry when I see 10+ posts in the Corny thread. Yeah, defending pedos sounds like him alright.
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Jim Cornette shut the gently caress up challenge so I can continue to enjoy SMW and those shoot videos he did on WCW.
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Alaois posted:did jim realize that adam cole is small A bunch of people on twitter who all listen to him him didn't seem to realize this until he joined AEW either, weird!
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davidbix posted:I've heard it argued that Memphis probably didn't have a worse problem than any other territory so much as it's where some of the most well-known stories come from. And there's probably *some* merit to that, I'm just not sure how far itm goes. Tennessee indies are still the epicenter of sex pests and rampant cronyism so it pans out
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Uniformly decided to relegate Bully Ray here too. He doesnt deserve the podcast thread. https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1484258194495049734?t=7ThueITpTzfnJfc8D0huiQ&s=19
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Orange Carlisle posted:Bully Ray should apologize daily for continuing to exist But think of the HHHEEEEEAAAATTTT if he doesn't!
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bully ray, cornette and vince russo are the triumvirate of please listen to my lovely podcast hot take commenters
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Orange Carlisle posted:bully ray, cornette and vince russo are the triumvirate of please listen to my lovely podcast hot take commenters And Booker T
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