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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I feel like I've known that the dirtbag left was a confluence of opportunistic center left true believers and shithead ops keen tofunnel discourse in a useless direction, for several years now?

Like if felix and matt didn't make me laugh still I'd probably not have any reason to listen to chapo idk

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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Red scare fans are worse than marvel fans and Hitler fans

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNazfBGnSM

maxwellhill has issued a correction as of 05:26 on Jan 14, 2022

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
what was the deal with dasha and brace (?) with the SS flag photoshoot anyway? i never cared enough to try and figure out what i assumed to be some kind of insane troll or drama


lol, but also lmao for the original getting deleted from youtube for hate speech

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

crepeface posted:

what was the deal with dasha and brace (?) with the SS flag photoshoot anyway? i never cared enough to try and figure out what i assumed to be some kind of insane troll or drama

20 year old heroin addicts make extremely bad decisions

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
he's made some pretty drat cool decisions, like unionizing the Anchor Steam brewery.

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

crepeface posted:

what was the deal with dasha and brace (?) with the SS flag photoshoot anyway? i never cared enough to try and figure out what i assumed to be some kind of insane troll or drama

iirc it was something related to his band? also Dasha herself "leaked" the pics to troll morons on Twitter like red kahina etc

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Cached Money posted:

iirc it was something related to his band? also Dasha herself "leaked" the pics to troll morons on Twitter like red kahina etc

love to ironically be a Nazi for laffs

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

"joke's on you i was only pretending"

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
even if if theorize brace is lying about it being ironic and you think he was doing literal Nazi or white supremacist stuff he was still, a. Hooked on heroin, b. Basically a kid still, like I've brought up before on this discourse though, even if you think brace is an op, what is he accomplishing, what is limited about his hangout?

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

love to ironically be a Nazi for laffs

it was pretty funny tbh

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ProfEmilyOster/status/1481617335890812928
https://twitter.com/ProfEmilyOster/status/1481617354073075712

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021

:barf:

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
So cute of zucc to put his wife's name on all his reputation washing bullshit

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

i think the SS thing was for like a music video or short film idk

Angrymantium
Jul 19, 2007
Resistant to everything

Ace of Baes posted:

even if if theorize brace is lying about it being ironic and you think he was doing literal Nazi or white supremacist stuff he was still, a. Hooked on heroin, b. Basically a kid still, like I've brought up before on this discourse though, even if you think brace is an op, what is he accomplishing, what is limited about his hangout?

Same as any other dirtbag left stuff, redirect the energy of anyone interested in leftist politics or state secrets away from organizing. TrueAnon is more about internet culture than anything political these days, though they'll probably do an episode on the new Prince Andrew stuff to cover their bases

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

The only good associated with the dirtbag left is DEATH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Mameluke posted:

So cute of zucc to put his wife's name on all his reputation washing bullshit

Zucc-Chan he thought sounded to weeb

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Angrymantium posted:

Same as any other dirtbag left stuff, redirect the energy of anyone interested in leftist politics or state secrets away from organizing. TrueAnon is more about internet culture than anything political these days, though they'll probably do an episode on the new Prince Andrew stuff to cover their bases

I have listened to every trueanon episode since it started and it is in no way primarily about internet culture or culture in general, this is a very weak argument that ignores the countless deep dives into poo poo like the spider network, gladio, esptein associates and the Maxwell family and their associations and history with Magellan, Chilliad, PROMIS, etc


edit: a more convincing argument for trueanon being an op or limited hangout or whatever would be that they're letting the "left" know just how outmanned, outgunned, and outmatched they are relative to the ghouls who exert control over all aspects of their life so they'll give up before they even try

Ace of Baes has issued a correction as of 03:18 on Jan 15, 2022

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
the idea that podcasts are supposed to be the ones leading people to organize is so silly.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




podcast is for not hearing my subconscious beg for death while commuting not for revolution

veepfake
Oct 21, 2005


Angrymantium posted:

Same as any other dirtbag left stuff, redirect the energy of anyone interested in leftist politics or state secrets away from organizing. TrueAnon is more about internet culture than anything political these days, though they'll probably do an episode on the new Prince Andrew stuff to cover their bases

Maybe they paint a triggering picture but ultimatey i am the only one responsible for my lack of organization or seeking help w it :)

Real hurthling! posted:

podcast is for not hearing my subconscious beg for death while commuting not for revolution

yeah it's a white noise thing for me too

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
lmao ya i'm going to do my "left-wing organizing" on The NSA Box That Also Has Porno

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1482165372195270661

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
on top of that they’re married now with kids and everyone in her family supported it except the father?! :bang:

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
https://twitter.com/surlybassey/status/1482104067140816898?t=EGqdBqIqgVsh2nAYvOieZw&s=19

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Thats what they call cultural exchange :shrug:

https://youtu.be/qWmicId9ldk

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
Whoever is keeping track of sus sources posted in here can add the buck breaking guy to their list lmao

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
That sounds familiar, what happened? Tariq loving sucks lmao

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



All written info is sus.

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames
just cause you dont like the guy doesn't make him wrong on every account lmao

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty
I've been meaning to post this for awhile, but: Aaron Good's American Exception podcast is really good. I say this as someone who didn't enjoy his appearances on the TrueAnon JFK series that much; his podcast his way better and a pleasant surprise.

So far he's had interviews with:

Oliver Stone
Peter Dale Scott
Jim DiEugenio
David Talbot
John Newman (JFK and Vietnam)
Lawrence Wilkerson, Ray McGovern, Coleen Rowley (all ex-US military and/or intelligence of various sorts)

Currently it's only via Patreon and I'm not aware of a pirate feed. (But this is one of the smaller ones for which I'd avoid using a pirate feed regardless.)

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Goast posted:

just cause you dont like the guy doesn't make him wrong on every account lmao

Been saying...

Or doesn't mean they aren't sharing true or otherwise useful information. Use your brain, no shortcuts!

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Suplex Liberace posted:

All written info is sus.

the phaedrus is leaking

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

DirtyRobot posted:

I've been meaning to post this for awhile, but: Aaron Good's American Exception podcast is really good. I say this as someone who didn't enjoy his appearances on the TrueAnon JFK series that much; his podcast his way better and a pleasant surprise.

So far he's had interviews with:

Oliver Stone
Peter Dale Scott
Jim DiEugenio
David Talbot
John Newman (JFK and Vietnam)
Lawrence Wilkerson, Ray McGovern, Coleen Rowley (all ex-US military and/or intelligence of various sorts)

Currently it's only via Patreon and I'm not aware of a pirate feed. (But this is one of the smaller ones for which I'd avoid using a pirate feed regardless.)
You have my interest, so thanks for the lead. I will probably listen regardless, but does he take a position? How close is it to the gospel truth that O. was a CIA stooge?

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

How is this related to Epstein?

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

what

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004


at the time they were only letting white people into Egypt if a cool black guy would vouch for them

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


Here’s an article https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/12/louis-armstrong-and-the-spy-how-the-cia-used-him-as-a-trojan-horse-in-congo

quote:

What Armstrong did not know was that his host that night in November 1960 was not the political attaché as described, but the head of the CIA in Congo. He was also totally unaware of how his fame had allowed the spy who was making small talk across the starters to gain crucial information that would facilitate some of the most controversial operations of the entire cold war.

“Armstrong was basically a Trojan horse for the CIA. It’s genuinely heartbreaking. He was brought in to serve an interest that was completely contrary to his own sense of what was right or wrong. He would have been horrified,” said Susan Williams, a research fellow at London University’s School of Advanced Study and author of White Malice, a new book which exposes the astonishing extent of the CIA’s activities across central and west Africa in the 1950s and early 60s.

Documents found by Williams in the archives of the UN during five years of research strongly suggest that the Armstrongs’ host, CIA station chief Larry Devlin, and other US intelligence officers posted to Congo used the cover of the musicians’s visit to get access to the strategically important and very wealthy province of Katanga, which had recently seceded. The US, though sympathetic to the agenda of the province’s leader, had not officially recognised the self-declared government there.

There was much of interest to the CIA in Katanga, ranging from senior officials with whom they could not otherwise meet to crucial mining infrastructure, with 1,500 tons of uranium and vast potential to procure more. Armstrong’s tour to Katanga was the perfect opportunity, so Devlin and others flew down from the capital with the musician and his famous band. “They needed a cover and this gave them one,” said Williams.

There was something else that Armstrong, who had pulled out of a similar tour to the Soviet Union three years earlier in protest at racism in the US, did not know. The CIA in the Congo, led by Devlin, was trying to kill the Congo’s first democratically elected prime minister, 35-year-old Patrice Lumumba, fearful that he would lead the country into the Soviet camp. Historians now believe the nationalist leader wanted his country to remain neutral in the cold war.

Just a mile or so from where Armstrong and Devlin had dined, the charismatic Lumumba was being held prisoner in his official residence by soldiers loyal to Joseph-Désiré Mobutu, the young military chief with a close working relationship with the CIA, who had effectively seized power some weeks earlier.

Within two months of Armstrong’s tour, Lumumba was murdered in Katanga by officials of the breakaway province and police officers from Belgium. Mobutu would later consolidate his hold on Congo, and become a loyal US client.

Devlin later claimed that the CIA was responsible, telling a US Congressional investigation “that the coup of Mobutu … was arranged and supported, and indeed, managed, by the CIA”.

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DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty

Lampsacus posted:

You have my interest, so thanks for the lead. I will probably listen regardless, but does he take a position? How close is it to the gospel truth that O. was a CIA stooge?
I'm not sure Good's exact position on that has actually come up, except that he seems to agree Oswald had intelligence fingerprints all over him. Peter Dale Scott has two somewhat related interesting positions: (1) he thinks the FBI and CIA participated in the cover-up, but it was the Pentagon that was ultimately responsible for the actual assassination, and (2) it doesn't come up in his episode on the pod, but PTD's Dallas '63 book views all the docs we have on Oswald as basically part of a pre-assassination CIA "marked card" operation designed to help identify a mole, and this in turn led to a bunch of intelligence agencies being implicated in Oswald-related stuff that effectively forced them to participate in the cover-up post-assassination.

One thing you find about the guests is that a lot of them are explicitly self-declared liberals, lol. Good pushes back on that a bit, if/when relevant. There's interesting stuff about both Marxist-Leninists (Parenti) and liberals (Scott, I think Newman) being pissed at Chomsky and Zinn for dismissing the significance of the JFK assassination.

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