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Preoptopus posted:Oh god they are actually going to send it to Drydock for refit this summer. Article says nothing about a modern engine.... that's actually anti-satellite tracking tech, very advanced stuff
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Russian duma is preparing a citizenship law that would allow immediate citizenship to any descendants of those who were born in the parts of Russian empire or USSR that lie within current borders of Russian federation. And that's me, my granny was born in pre-independence Finland in a town that now is in Leningrad oblast. Thinking about moving to Russia now and living (La)da life 
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Well, that's one way to create Russian minorities that need to be protected.
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About one million Finns could get Russian passports. We could move to some major city there and swing elections.
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That would be me as well, my great grandfather, iirc, was from like Saratov area and settled in Latvia during WW1.
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Nenonen posted:Russian duma is preparing a citizenship law that would allow immediate citizenship to any descendants of those who were born in the parts of Russian empire or USSR that lie within current borders of Russian federation. And that's me, my granny was born in pre-independence Finland in a town that now is in Leningrad oblast. Lol, that's probably something like 10% of the entire US population and a huge chunk of Israelis. I think most countries who have citizenship laws like that restrict it to grandparents?
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Preoptopus posted:Oh god they are actually going to send it to Drydock for refit this summer. Article says nothing about a modern engine.... Those are incredible photos. How much oil (or mazut I guess) does that thing get through in a cruise I wonder. @GABA ghoul Italian citizenship isn't just limited to grandparents. Anyone who can prove an Italian ancestor from any time after Italian unification (1860ish iirc) can claim it. Its very popular with Brasilians who want to move to the EU.
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Can I claim Ukrainian citizenship if my grandpa came from pre-war Wołyń? 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That would be me as well, my great grandfather, iirc, was from like Saratov area and settled in Latvia during WW1. Nenonen posted:Russian duma is preparing a citizenship law that would allow immediate citizenship to any descendants of those who were born in the parts of Russian empire or USSR that lie within current borders of Russian federation. And that's me, my granny was born in pre-independence Finland in a town that now is in Leningrad oblast. I for one would like to welcome our new Russian overlords
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Owling Howl posted:Russia annexing the most Russophone regions in Ukraine probably ensures that a democratic Ukrainian government friendly to Russia is largely impossible simply due to the shift in demographics. The alternative is a non-democratic Ukrainian government controlled by Russia but I don't see how you could achieve that without full-scale invasion and occupation. Russia has made no move to formally annex the DNR and LNR until VERY recently. They would prefer these regions to be made autonomous but still vote in Ukrainian elections. Having a politically neutral Ukraine > looking big on map
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Nenonen posted:About one million Finns could get Russian passports. We could move to some major city there and swing elections. you cant swing elections if there arent any *taps head*
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FishBulbia posted:looking big on map
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:are you sure? this has been a real problem for russia. those 13,000 square miles could make a real difference Russia mad that map coloring is so difficult now
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FishBulbia posted:Russia mad that map coloring is so difficult now look that's just the rules, after you convert from tribal to feudal you can't just declare war on a whim and need to have or fabricate a causus belli
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Looks like there's been a large scale cyber attack on the Ukrainian government, but more along the lines of intended to put stress on the government than facilitate an invasion (as far as we can see, at least): https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1481860141888806913?t=GnAu-iLQc8Q6Urik6fJ-mQ&s=19 In lighter news: https://twitter.com/OscDomesticated/status/1481977678219591690?t=Sxzu5oThVAmCgjVO1MBYzg&s=19 Cugel the Clever fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Calling ddos attacks "cyber attacks" is pretty alarmist. Its cyber vandalism. Russia has directly attacked the Ukrainian energy grid before.
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It's a cyber attack even if it isn't the worst possible cyber attack.
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we're missing the important part here: if the attack is attributable to russia, the map icon affirms that crimea is part of ukraine in their view
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FishBulbia posted:Calling ddos attacks "cyber attacks" is pretty alarmist. Its cyber vandalism. Russia has directly attacked the Ukrainian energy grid before. No, specifically they claim to have gotten into internal systems and grabbed PII, so that is an attack, not just a vandalism of the page. We don't know how far they got in yet.
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:we're missing the important part here: if the attack is attributable to russia, the map icon affirms that crimea is part of ukraine in their view the actual text seems to be trying to attribute it to Poles by talking about OUN stuff
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FishBulbia posted:the actual text seems to be trying to attribute it to Poles by talking about OUN stuff Half-broken Polish, as usual. They can’t get this right. A year and a half ago there was a supposedly Polish road blockade in the middle of Ukraine, and it was a load of people bussed in and no one spoke Polish.
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...why would you even write in Polish to address Ukrainians?
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Cugel the Clever posted:In lighter news: Does Moldova even share a border with Ukraine that isn't controlled by Transnistria? This is extreme Clancychat I know, but: if Putin were to annex all of Ukraine, would he go ahead and grab Transnistria, too? I'm under the impression one reason the breakaway republic exists at all is just Soviet nostalgia.
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TipTow posted:Does Moldova even share a border with Ukraine that isn't controlled by Transnistria? Its North and South (remember Bessarabia?) borders.
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As I expected for this week, talks ended up being hot air mostly. Gas prices have already jumped 25% up, with everyone pricing US claims on expected false flag to invade by mid-February.Mokotow posted:Half-broken Polish, as usual. They can’t get this right. A year and a half ago there was a supposedly Polish road blockade in the middle of Ukraine, and it was a load of people bussed in and no one spoke Polish. Co do diabła właśnie o mnie powiedziałaś, mała suko? Chcę, abyście wiedzieli, że ukończyłem z wyróżnieniem Federalną Służbę Bezpieczeństwa, uczestniczyłem w wielu tajnych rajdach na wschodniej Ukrainie i mam ponad 300 potwierdzonych morderstw. Jestem wyszkolony do walki z gorylami i jestem najlepszym snajperem w rosyjskich siłach zbrojnych. Jesteś dla mnie niczym, tylko kolejnym celem. Zmiażdżę cię do piekła z precyzją, jakiej nigdy nie widziałeś na tej Ziemi, pamiętaj moje cholerne słowa. Myślisz, że poradzisz sobie z tym gównem w Internecie? Pomyśl jeszcze raz, dziwaku. Kiedy rozmawiamy, kontaktuję się z moją tajną siecią szpiegów w całym byłym Związku Radzieckim, a teraz twoje IP jest śledzone, więc lepiej przygotuj się na burzę, larwo. Burza, która wymazuje z powierzchni ziemi małe rzeczy, które nazywasz swoim życiem. Jesteś cholernie martwy, kochanie. Mogę być gdziekolwiek i kiedykolwiek, i mogę cię zabić na ponad siedemset sposobów, i to tylko gołymi rękami. Nie tylko jestem dobrze wyszkolony w walce wręcz, ale mam dostęp do całego arsenału 45. Oddzielnego Pułku Rozpoznawczego Gwardii Rosyjskich Sił Powietrznych i używam go w pełni, by wytrzeć twój bezwartościowy tyłek z twarzy kontynentu. , ty mały dupku. Gdybyś tylko wiedział, jaką bezbożną karę rzuciłby na ciebie twój mały „inteligentny” komentarz, mógłbyś się powstrzymywać. Ale nie mogłeś, nie zrobiłeś, a teraz płacisz, cholerny idioto. Przypomnę ci z wściekłością i utoniesz w nim. Jesteś cholernie martwy, kochanie. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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TipTow posted:Does Moldova even share a border with Ukraine that isn't controlled by Transnistria? Yes, Transnistria does make up a big chunk but there are direct borders too. I don't really see them doing anything about Transnistria. It would require movimg a ton of troops by air since I don't imagine anyone would let them through otherwise, and it'd be a huge escalation even closer to the parts of Europe that matter.
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Mokotow posted:Half-broken Polish, as usual. They can’t get this right. A year and a half ago there was a supposedly Polish road blockade in the middle of Ukraine, and it was a load of people bussed in and no one spoke Polish. Can you point out the mistakes? Im just genuinely curious and want to use it for ppl claiming this is really the Polish right. FishBulbia fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Ukrainiec! Wszystkie Twoje dane osobowe zostały przesłane do wspólnej sieci. Wszystkie dane na komputerze są niszczone, nie można ich odzyskać. Wszystkie informacje o Tobie stały się publiczne, bój się i czekaj na najgorsze. To dla Ciebie za twoją przeszłość, teraźniejszość i za Wołyń, za OUN UPA, Galicję, Polesie i za tereny historyczne. vs Ukraińcu! Wszystkie Twoje dane osobowe zostały przesłane do that's to at least make it look like half of an effort. Vlad, hire me.
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FishBulbia posted:Can you point out the mistakes? Im just genuinely curious and want to use it for ppl claiming this is really the Polish right. From the first word, it should be be "Ukraińcu!" Rest is very weird, like literal translation from other language and not something any native speaker uses. Like "wspólna sieć". I've also never heard anyone use "tereny historyczne", people would use "ziemie utracone" or more likely "kresy wschodnie".
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The first word is singular in other languages as well, however.
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It's singular in Polish as well, but it should be vocative (or whatever "wołacz" is in english).
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Alas, the pesky polish declination!
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alex314 posted:It's singular in Polish as well, but it should be vocative (or whatever "wołacz" is in english). a vocative? in english? please, we can barely deal with a vestigial distinction between nominative and accusative ignore the modern linguists talking about @name as a vocative, that doesn't count
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alex314 posted:It's singular in Polish as well, but it should be vocative (or whatever "wołacz" is in english). Ukraincu is singular vocative? What a depraved language.
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Technically, I can see someone shouting "Ukrainiec!" as a derogatory vocative. As in, "Ej, Polak, zamknij mordę!" (shut up, Polack), as opposed to "zamknij mordę Polaku" (shut up Polish guy)
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Maybe, but we can agree no way in gently caress Polish nationalist would put Polish language message last..
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that's a separate matter - why would there by a message in Polish there at all, disregarding who did the actual hack. Maaaaaybe if the target was Lithuania, putting something in Polish would make sense.
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... Should the Ukrainian message be using vocative as well? Not sure of the rules for that....
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TipTow posted:Does Moldova even share a border with Ukraine that isn't controlled by Transnistria? On both sides of it, Transnistria is a landlocked fiefdom after all.  Putting Clancy-hat on, if Russia did annex all of Ukraine then Russia would already be de facto in as much control of Transnistria as it is now in control of Novorossiya. Keeping things this way would put a damper on Moldova's wishes to join EU and NATO (and Romania's wish* to peacefully annex Moldova). Or why not keep rolling, no rest until Bukarest... *well, some of them anyway Nenonen fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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