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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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maffew buildings posted:

Look forward to the military being used to fill jobs after both sides come together to champion the solution to keep The Economy going

And for the draft to be reinstated

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
"If you don't spend all of your paycheck, you will not get paid this much next pay period."

On a long enough timeline, I am sure this would eventually become a thing.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

RFC2324 posted:

And for the draft to be reinstated

Bring it, I already have my ratings.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

RFC2324 posted:

And for the draft to be reinstated

Jokes on them with the way my DD214 is set up....

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

maffew buildings posted:

So tight the anti-vax leaders in politics and the right wing media space all have been vaccinated boosted and have personal doctors. This is cool and normal.

It’s almost like they’re re-enacting Stalins great purge, but through a weird indirect medical method vs Yaghoda, Yezhov, and Beria. Granted I’m sure there are many many many members of the GOP who would gladly take up that role.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

maffew buildings posted:

Look forward to the military being used to fill jobs after both sides come together to champion the solution to keep The Economy going

You doomer-joke, but here's the latest from the Brain Trust

https://twitter.com/FPWellman/status/1481974035860934662?t=Cq2BSZDF2XQtSHpNH7HiJA&s=19

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I need a montage of Rogan going from kinda funny, mostly harmless comedian to whatever the gently caress he is today cause holy poo poo I've avoided seeing him for years and he's grotesque.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Man and I thoughts on the Atlantics recent Covid takes were loving awful.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Lol. Sure. Put me in a school to yell at children all day, or in a bus full of them.

"Children, today we'll be covering CSPAM, now open your tablet browsers to the climate change thread and let's get started."

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

lightpole posted:

I need a montage of Rogan going from kinda funny, mostly harmless comedian to whatever the gently caress he is today cause holy poo poo I've avoided seeing him for years and he's grotesque.

Joe Rogan was never a funny comedian. Are you confusing him with Seth Rogan?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

RFC2324 posted:

Joe Rogan was never a funny comedian. Are you confusing him with Seth Rogan?

Ehh, Joe had moments, but I look back on his show now as a vehicle for Joey Diaz stories about making GBS threads his pants or in a neighbor's yard or whatever.

Rogan is a stopped clock in comedy, like most conservative or libertarian "comedians" these days. He gets a giggle from time to time, but mostly you're just waiting for it to be over.

I used to like Rogan a few years ago, but I've grown a little more as an adult and he's about as funny as the plague itself now.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RFC2324 posted:

Joe Rogan was never a funny comedian. Are you confusing him with Seth Rogan?

I seem to recall him being funny on news radio and his earlier standups kind of funny and also the Carlos Mencia thing. That said for his podcast I think I’ve only been able to listen to it via clips from interviews on subjects I was interested in, like when they had John Carmack or discussing reffing with Herb Dean.

Basically what Crusty Minge said.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Rogan bad, but also Adam Corrola/Tim Allen/Mike Rowe bad.

Think I'm seeing a trend here, conservatively.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Rogan bad, but also Adam Corrola/Tim Allen/Mike Rowe bad.

Think I'm seeing a trend here, conservatively.

Tim Allen? I just saw thought he starred in lovely movies and TV shows that were mostly just innocent pablum these days. Granted it’s hard to actually give a poo poo about Tim Allen anymore enough to look in on it.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

facialimpediment posted:

You doomer-joke, but here's the latest from the Brain Trust

I can not stress enough that I'm never joking about these things

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Tim Allen? I just saw thought he starred in lovely movies and TV shows that were mostly just innocent pablum these days. Granted it’s hard to actually give a poo poo about Tim Allen anymore enough to look in on it.

Tim Allen is a total boomer. He's not as vocal now about his position, but when one of his shows was cancelled a few years ago, the Fox News crew pushed his audience to clamor for more, so it wound up on Fox for a few more seasons.

Also his History Channel show is just boomer bait. Think that was already cancelled though, only ran one season. I'll take more Ancient Aliens in its place, please.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Lol. Sure. Put me in a school to yell at children all day, or in a bus full of them.

"Children, today we'll be covering CSPAM, now open your tablet browsers to the climate change thread and let's get started."

"Bonus points for your test will be draw as many dicks in the margin of this page as you can, you will be graded for quantity as well as quality"

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Other stupid stuff aside, if retired veterans wanted to sub, they’d be doing it. Is Hugh Hewitt suggesting involuntary recall of retired guard to be teachers? How much does this idiot get paid?

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
How about we give teachers a salary befitting of the responsibility that we are essentially forcing upon them?

Hahahahahahaha gently caress that here's $800bn for bombs.

Bomb go boom 😍😍😍

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, my cousin recently quit a teaching aide job because it pays so loving little. Like $22k/year salary in Austin, TX. He loved the work, but couldn't keep up with any of his bills, so now he works in restaurants again, where he makes more than being a civil servant and helping developmentally challenged kids grasp educational concepts.

'merica

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Why not have 4th graders teach 3rd graders and so on? The material should still be fresh in their heads and they don’t know what teachers unions are.

There, I solved Education. I am very smart. Pay me a lot of money, my kid goes to private school.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Private school is just public school with dress codes, Jesus and higher babysitting (admission) fees.


I'm a product of private schooling through 6th grade.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
It would be great of there was a general strike that put a couple businesses in the grave.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Rail is pretty hosed here. There was a twitter post I remember from a couple months ago, where nothing could really move on the west coast due to fires, floods, washed out rail, etc.

poo poo's already wild. And BNSF has had a history of loving their operators, relying on tech to thin their books, steadily laying folks off for the past several decades while also slacking on rail maintenance. They deserve to be fighting a strike right now.

Yeesh. Didn't know it was that bad.

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth
So...

Big cyber attacks today on Ukranian government websites

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1481866343104360450?s=20

Jake Sullivan and the NSC are telling press that Russia is preparing false-flag attacks to justify an invasion

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1482000216471572482?s=20

A RAND Russia analyst is saying that a diplomatic failure this week will probably mark a point of no return

https://twitter.com/MassDara/status/1481726020923265025?s=20

This looks real bad - bad for Ukraine, bad for Europe, probably bad for Russia in the long run, and bad for the world.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Man and I thoughts on the Atlantics recent Covid takes were loving awful.

I knew it was Hugh Hewitt before I even clicked through the article, he's one of WAPO's token conservative opinion writers.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Mustang posted:

I knew it was Hugh Hewitt before I even clicked through the article, he's one of WAPO's token conservative opinion writers.

Yeah just him, Michael Gerson, Megan McArdle, Ruben Navarrette, Kathleen Parker, Marc Thiessen, George Will…

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Is there an opinion section anywhere that isn't a steaming turd? I don't think there is.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

You doomer-joke, but here's the latest from the Brain Trust

If there's anything I've learned from the idiots thread and here, is that current mil need to be kept far away from highschoolers as possible, and I believe that probably needs to be extended to former as well.

Mustang posted:

Is there an opinion section anywhere that isn't a steaming turd? I don't think there is.

Internet VFW › January 2022 Current Events: The Andrew Formerly Known as Prince

Isn't bad, some dumb rear end takes, but doesn't bleed into pants on head very often.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB



I don’t think the government can cover the cost of the amount of statutory rape cases this was produce.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mustang posted:

Is there an opinion section anywhere that isn't a steaming turd? I don't think there is.

Nope. That’s why I said a ad block with a custom thing so that it blocks all the opinion pages on news sites I visit regularly.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Marshal Prolapse posted:

Tim Allen? I just saw thought he starred in lovely movies and TV shows that were mostly just innocent pablum these days. Granted it’s hard to actually give a poo poo about Tim Allen anymore enough to look in on it.

Tim Allen is also a narc who should just now be getting out of a Kalamazoo County prison for cocaine trafficking.

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Notahippie posted:

So...

Big cyber attacks today on Ukranian government websites

https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1481866343104360450?s=20

Jake Sullivan and the NSC are telling press that Russia is preparing false-flag attacks to justify an invasion

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1482000216471572482?s=20

A RAND Russia analyst is saying that a diplomatic failure this week will probably mark a point of no return

https://twitter.com/MassDara/status/1481726020923265025?s=20

This looks real bad - bad for Ukraine, bad for Europe, probably bad for Russia in the long run, and bad for the world.

They really are going to invade, aren't they? Feels like Russia is about to open a Pandora's box of all around misery that we won't see the end of for a very long time.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

I'm crossposting this from the D&D Immigration thread. I feel that the members of this forum would understand just how hosed the members of the TX ARNG are right now.

Among the people being abused with regard to immigration policy are the members of the National Guard getting used as props for political purposes.

This article is about the hardships the members of the Texas National Guard are going through due to the border mission. As background I need to clarify how the NG works. The National Guard is a reserve component of the Active Duty Army. When not on active duty, the Guard is organized and paid for under Title 32 of the US Code. When not on active duty the Guard also falls under the command and jurisdiction of the governor of whatever state they belong to. The Guard can be put into Federal service and its Soldiers made part of the regular Army, which operates under Title 10 of the US Code. When their service is up, the Guardsmen are discharged from the regular Army and rejoin their state organization.

Another way the Guard can be used is under what's called "State Active Duty." This duty status is at the behest of the state government and is paid for by the state budget, no Federal money involved. When a Soldier or Airmen is on SAD, they receive a check from the state comptroller, usually a physical check mailed to their home of residence. The pay is usually less than the normal Army payscale, and the duty does not qualify them for retirement benefits or the GI Bill, or a host of other benefits and bonuses that come from being activated under Title 32 or Title 10.

Most of the National Guard troops on the border are there under Title 10, or Active Duty orders. The Texas National Guard has also been put on the border under SAD, and this is the reason they are carrying firearms as opposed to the Title 10 Soldiers who are not authorized weapons. The SAD status is also having a very negative effect on the Texas NG troops.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/01/13/texas-denying-most-guard-troops-border-chance-help-families-suffering-hardships-home.html

military.com posted:

A member of the Texas National Guard who is deployed to the state's border security mission was recently sitting in his bed, ... when the worry welled up.

"I was wondering what I'm doing here," the noncommissioned officer remembered in an interview this week with Military.com. The NCO spoke on the condition of anonymity because troops there were ordered not to comment publicly.

The Texas deployment in October had pulled the soldier away from a civilian job, a family including children who depended on that income to survive, and a spouse enrolled in college. The loss of pay threatened mortgage and vehicle payments, even sports fees for the kids.

The NCO filed a hardship request, a formal process for soldiers to make a case to be excused from duty, with his chain of command. But that request was denied, leaving him in a dire financial situation.


...

Other soldiers whose hardship requests were denied are primary guardians of children or are caregivers to sick family members. The National Guard does not offer any subsidies for child care.

When Abbott kicked off his campaign to lock down the southern border last year, he rapidly mobilized thousands of Guardsmen in the state, sometimes with only a few days' notice to deploy on what could be a yearlong -- or even longer -- mission.

That mobilization of some 10,000 troops forced Guardsmen to slam the brakes on their civilian lives. The most common hardship for troops was losing income -- sometimes up to tens of thousands of dollars -- when leaving civilian jobs.

Some have encountered months of delays with Guard pay, with physical paychecks coming in at inconsistent times and in inconsistent amounts. One soldier told Military.com that their last paycheck was for about $100, while another soldier was overpaid by more than $2,000.

...

Military.com spoke with more than two dozen Texas National Guardsmen who are deployed on the mission, ranging from junior enlisted to senior officers. Requests for anonymity were granted to all of them, to protect the soldiers from retaliation after they were given strict warnings not to speak with the press and to take concerns to their chains of command.

For them, the deployment meant scrambling for child care, shifting wedding dates, and rushing to wrap up impending legal issues such as divorce. Some were granted a short leave to see the birth of their babies but had to immediately return to the mission, leaving new mothers on their own.

All of the soldiers interviewed said they did not trust their commands to handle concerns, despite the assurances of leaders, and felt the lack of support was a systemic failure of the border deployment.

Troops also began to suspect they were window dressing for Abbott's re-election ambitions as he faces Republican challengers in a March primary. "We're just political pawns here," one of the soldiers said, in a common refrain among those interviewed.

The denials of hardship requests drove home the belief that the Guard didn't really care about them, they said.


...

The border mission has seen other troubling signs of deteriorating morale among the troops. With an unclear mission giving soldiers too much free time, alcohol abuse has run rampant, the interviewed troops said.

Last week, a junior soldier was intoxicated at a bar in Del Rio, Texas, a border town, and got into an altercation with a border agent over a woman, according to an incident report reviewed by Military.com.

The Army specialist went to his vehicle, returned to the bar with a gun and pointed it at the agent and five other patrons, the report said. The soldier forced the border agent onto his knees, but the arrival of police startled him and he dropped the gun.

Reports of attempted self harm are beginning to surface.

A deployed Guard soldier attempted suicide this week, according to an incident report obtained by Military.com and at least four soldiers died by suicide in recent months according to an investigation by Army Times. Advocates worry that the events may have been related to hardship requests.

Texas Guard leadership must take a look at the hardships put on the border troops, or the situation could get worse, retired Command Sgt. Maj. Jason Featherston, the former top NCO of the Texas Army National Guard, told Military.com.

"I firmy believe that if hardships of soldiers are not considered, then that could lead to more suicides," Featherston said.

The capper to me is the 36th ID General who says things are fine, actually.

military.com posted:

Maj. Gen. Charles Aris, the commander of the 36th Infantry Division, which oversees most units on the border mission, told Military.com that hardship requests are decided by a board of senior leaders. Like any mission, he said, soldiers can be rudely interrupted from their civilian lives, and some of that is part of the sacrifices service members must make.

"We have an appeals process if people are unsatisfied," Aris told Military.com in an interview. "We got people that reviewed each hardship and made sure we treated everyone fairly."

Overall, Aris said he feels "very good" about the process.

"Is there someone that lost money? Probably. But it's not different from any other deployment I've been on," he said.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Nuclear Tourist posted:

They really are going to invade, aren't they?
It's entirely possible. It's also entirely possible that Putin believes all these theatrics, costly as they are, will further his goals of destabilizing Ukraine and dividing Europe without ever requiring him to go through with his threat.

The best things Ukraine and the West can do right now, whatever Putin's ultimate intentions, are shore up ties, bolster defences, and root out the pawns of Russian imperialism who wield a disturbing amount of power in NATO-aligned states. All valuable in the long run no matter how the next few months unfold.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
"Troops also began to suspect they were window dressing for Abbott's re-election ambitions as he faces Republican challengers in a March primary. "We're just political pawns here," one of the soldiers said, in a common refrain among those interviewed."

i mean, yeah. when are they not lmao

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Platystemon posted:

This ain’t the Roaring Twenties.

It’s the Second Gilded Age.

More loving drugs were legal (or at least weren't illegal) back in the first Gilded Age, this is more of a Pyrite Age.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jan 14, 2022

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BIG HEADLINE posted:

More loving drugs were legal back in the first Gilded Age, this is more of a Pyrite Age.

Also automatic weapons were unrestricted in anyway.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Also automatic weapons were unrestricted in anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jevEf3U7Kws

:smith:

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



This was a pretty awesome film imo. I really enjoyed it.



also lol
https://twitter.com/Djtrujillo10/status/1481805213338013699?s=20

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