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Turin Turambar posted:Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman shed light on Apple’s approach to the so-called “metaverse”, making it clear the company’s upcoming headset is expected to focus on “bursts” of gaming, content consumption and communication above all else. finally, a headset exclusively for porn
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burstin my load all over my NFTs (non-fungible titties)
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An Apple headset is potentially very interesting. Especially if they are (correctly) ignoring the "metaverse" and focusing on "bursts" of usage or whatever they're calling it and thinking about watching media, etc. The Quest 2 is a fine device for watching videos, but it's annoying that each app has its own idea of what options you have for resizing/moving the screen and customising the environment. If Apple are smart, they would build on this and consolidate everything to create a consistent user experience for the video player in Netflix/YouTube/Amazon Prime/whatever. For developers, a standalone iOS headset would be cool because most game engines are already able to export to that platform, so potential ports of existing Quest games would benefit from that. I would guess the App Store would be on there and work more or less as it does on iPhone/iPad. As a small-time developer, this is good for me because I might actually have a chance of publishing something on the main store 
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HelixFox posted:An Apple headset is potentially very interesting. Especially if they are (correctly) ignoring the "metaverse" and focusing on "bursts" of usage or whatever they're calling it and thinking about watching media, etc. The Quest 2 is a fine device for watching videos, but it's annoying that each app has its own idea of what options you have for resizing/moving the screen and customising the environment. If Apple are smart, they would build on this and consolidate everything to create a consistent user experience for the video player in Netflix/YouTube/Amazon Prime/whatever. I think their intent (assuming they're talking about a single headset and not two different devices) with their XR headset is it gets worn out and about for general use as an AR device, and "burst usage" comes from like sitting down in a coffee shop to browse the internet or play a game when you get home. Periods of more focused usage between general wear, if that makes sense?
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Jan 14, 2022 12:25
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Are people really using their VR headsets to watch 2D video content cinema style? I hadn't thought about it much but tried it once or twice and then realised I'd much rather just watch it comfortably on my TV while laid down on my sofa, as usual, instead of having to gently caress about with a thing strapped to my head. loving about with a thing strapped to my head with Half Life Alyx the last couple of days has been absolutely mindblowing though, a transformative experience. I hope there's other developers working on anything of a similar calibre because it alone has immediately justified the cost and made me very excited for the future. I also had some friends round last night and let them try 'First Steps' on the headset which has been a good little introduction for everyone I've tried it on, and its really enjoyable to watch their joy and wonder at figuring poo poo out (and dancing with that robot). Are there any equivalent apps for the PC that do a similar job except show off more of the graphical capabilities? First Steps is great for teaching people about how your virtual hands can work but obviously is visually fairly basic, but much as I'd like to show off the bottles in Alyx to everyone it requires a lot more introduction and setup.
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Jan 14, 2022 12:47
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I use it in my bed sometimes, giving a 3D IMAX screen on my ceiling. Different straps work better than others for that kind of use case, soft pillows also help. In terms of introductory demos on PC, Valve's The Lab still holds up.
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Jan 14, 2022 12:53
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First steps was a real downgrade from the old first contact (short circuit style robot in the mad scientist motorhome) in my opinion. First contact was the first thing I actually experienced in VR and it blew my mind. It’s also really easy to interpret what it’s trying to get you to do without using any words to get you there. Super memorable.
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Jan 14, 2022 12:55
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There's some workshop content for Alyx, I know there's at least a bowling alley with a few things you can pick up and throw about, if you browse the workshop then there might be some other custom levels you can let people noodle about in.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Do sharks need pillows?
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I have to, for the nth time, give praise to Half-Life: Alyx for being the game to really realize VR's full gaming potential. It's kind of a lame cliche I guess, but it really made me feel like I was in the game, like it has its issues with the interface and the gun-glued-to-hand bits but otherwise I felt completely immersed the entire time I played. It's little things like just being able to pick up drat near anything for no reason, or that Valve polish (like guiding the player's attention very subtly like they've done in every Half-Life and L4D game) that really pull you in. But I'm kind of thinking it's a fluke, like I don't know that any other developer is ever going to match up to that or even try. Not until VR is way more commonplace.Butterfly Valley posted:Are people really using their VR headsets to watch 2D video content cinema style? I hadn't thought about it much but tried it once or twice and then realised I'd much rather just watch it comfortably on my TV while laid down on my sofa, as usual, instead of having to gently caress about with a thing strapped to my head. I did it once or twice. It's great for watching 3D movies, and Friday the 13th Part 3 was really cool in an empty VR theater. But you either have to rip your own blu rays or find... other means.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Are people really using their VR headsets to watch 2D video content cinema style? I hadn't thought about it much but tried it once or twice and then realised I'd much rather just watch it comfortably on my TV while laid down on my sofa, as usual, instead of having to gently caress about with a thing strapped to my head. Aside from what SCheeseman said, something that you can't do with a TV is also watch all those fancy 3D movies through a VR headset on a cinema-sized screen. And they look amazing through VR.
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Jan 14, 2022 12:58
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I suppose I hadn't considered 3D movies as, in my opinion, most of them are just gimmicky with one or two scenes clearly designed with 3D in mind but not really adding anything worthwhile to the overall experience. If anyone has recommendations for films where watching them in 3D genuinely adds a lot then I'd be happy to try them out.SCheeseman posted:Blahaj is already a pillow. I was unaware of Blahaj's existence until now and I want one. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Butterfly Valley posted:I suppose I hadn't considered 3D movies as, in my opinion, most of them are just gimmicky with one or two scenes clearly designed with 3D in mind but not really adding anything worthwhile to the overall experience. If anyone has recommendations for films where watching them in 3D genuinely adds a lot then I'd be happy to try them out. Dredd looks loving fantastic in 3D.
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Jan 14, 2022 13:30
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We all just tastefully avoiding referencing what 90% of the VR movie market consists of, I take it
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:We all just tastefully avoiding referencing what 90% of the VR movie market consists of, I take it Those aren't movies, those are experiences  Sorry, I meant "bursts of content".
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:We all just tastefully avoiding referencing what 90% of the VR movie market consists of, I take it lol I've obviously tried that but with lovely quality free videos on the mainstream sites and got my fingers burned so to speak when I had a nice close look at someone's skin tag covered butthole, which reminded me of that rumour about Lindsey Graham, which is never a good train of thought to have while touching your wiener. Also it seems they all go for the 'supine and passive man doing absolutely gently caress all' angle, which seems incredibly boring given the potential. Give me a full 360 degree fly through a bacchanal orgy where I can see filth in every direction, or at least let me embody a woman and see things from their perspective just to put me off ever having sex irl again.
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Prediction: 3D porn plus a lot of people getting 3D helmets being kids is going to raise a generation of people that have a fetish for women being scaled weird. Like deviant art is going to be 95% women who are way too big or way too small (instead of being like 40% that)
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Prediction: 3D porn plus a lot of people getting 3D helmets being kids is going to raise a generation of people that have a fetish for women being scaled weird. Like deviant art is going to be 95% women who are way too big or way too small (instead of being like 40% that) I think RE8 already got people most of the way there from the sound of it
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explosivo posted:I think RE8 already got people most of the way there from the sound of it I was reading the 1884 book "A rebours" recently and there is a section he lusts after a big muscular acrobat woman because she is like a hercules that could 'crush him into jelly"
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Quest users - any time I try to access my PC game library via airlink or the cable using the dashboard, the connection crashes, and loops back to the main Link dashboard. Anyone else experience and have a fix for this? My workaround is to remote into my desktop via the link remote option and launch a game that way - it works, but it's a nuisance. I didn't have this issue until whatever firmware airlink launched. Windows 10, i7 4790k cpu, GTX 1060 videocard if it all relevant.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Are people really using their VR headsets to watch 2D video content cinema style? I hadn't thought about it much but tried it once or twice and then realised I'd much rather just watch it comfortably on my TV while laid down on my sofa, as usual, instead of having to gently caress about with a thing strapped to my head. What I like about going to the cinema is that there's the movie and nothing else, no distractions, no cellphone, just overwhelming sound and a screen that fills my vision. I watched Matrix 4 on my quest 2 and it was a really good approximation to that experience, other than the pain of wearing the quest for three hours, with the advantage of no people and no covid.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Are people really using their VR headsets to watch 2D video content cinema style? If I could get an 8k OLED screen for each eye then 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I think their intent (assuming they're talking about a single headset and not two different devices) with their XR headset is it gets worn out and about for general use as an AR device, and "burst usage" comes from like sitting down in a coffee shop to browse the internet or play a game when you get home. Periods of more focused usage between general wear, if that makes sense? I think it's more likely that it's just another Apple device for stuff like movies and games, so "burst usage" would just mean you sit down, use it for an hour or so and then go do something else. I don't put much weight behind the rumours that have been floating around that they want the headset to eventually replace the iPhone. The problem ahead is the same problem that every Apple device that plays games has, they need to actually get people to make games for the drat thing and if there's one thing Apple is seemingly never willing to do it's bust out the money truck to actually get games made.
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Another thing they're not willing to do is let you use anything but approved software or do anything with their devices they don't approve of. So lol if you think you're going to play any PCVR games at all on their headset.
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I do watch some subtitled stuff 2d in VR because my eyes are garbage and there is only one chair near the tv that is close enough for me to read the screen comfortably. So I can just go in vr and make the screen huge and a foot from my eyeballs.
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What is the best accepted external battery for the Quest 2 that is also compatible with the Kiwi Elite strap? Edit: Just saw Kiwi has a battery strap you can get that is compatible, so I guess the question is just "What's a good Quest 2 battery?" Brocktoon fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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I love the idea of a shared plaza to hang out in VR with portals to common games, like in Tower Unite but with maybe a rotating set of games. Or like whatever the top 20 Steam games are. I hang out in VR chat but then trying to organize a group to hop over to Pavlov is a hassle.
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Brocktoon posted:What is the best accepted external battery for the Quest 2 that is also compatible with the Kiwi Elite strap? Anker is a good brand, I got a Powercore Slim 10K and it is more battery than I could imagine using.
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King Vidiot posted:Another thing they're not willing to do is let you use anything but approved software or do anything with their devices they don't approve of. So lol if you think you're going to play any PCVR games at all on their headset. They're happy enough with Steam Link apart from the payment stuff, I don't see why a VR remote play app would be any different.
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explosivo posted:I think RE8 already got people most of the way there from the sound of it This is where we point out Virt-a-Mate again. That, to me, seems to be the indication of where that sort entertainment is going to skew in the VR space.
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Butterfly Valley posted:I suppose I hadn't considered 3D movies as, in my opinion, most of them are just gimmicky with one or two scenes clearly designed with 3D in mind but not really adding anything worthwhile to the overall experience. If anyone has recommendations for films where watching them in 3D genuinely adds a lot then I'd be happy to try them out. That film 'The Walk' about the guy tightrope walking the world trade center was one of the best uses of 3D i've seen. If you have any vertigo, it was pretty remarkable how well it left you with just a pit in your stomach as he's jumping around the edge of this drop off in full 3d glory. Its one of the best legitimate uses for 3D film where it enhanced the experience in a way that wasn't a gimmick of a yo-yo popping at the screen. The other one I really remember enhancing it was the Werner Herzog documentary about the cave paintings in france. Seeing the 3d nature of the paintings across the walls, instead of just a flat image really brought it to life in a wonderful way. Then there are the other films where, its still kind of a gimmick but at least done well like the aforementioned Dredd 3d, or Alita, but most didn't really do anything more interesting with it than Avatar already did in 2009.
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I was checking out the 3D Attenborough documentary clips and they were astounding. Only problem is they are broken up into 5-7 minute clips. Is there a good way to watch feature quality stuff on the Quest 2, standalone? Even the YouTube app is pretty barebones.
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Beastie posted:I was checking out the 3D Attenborough documentary clips and they were astounding. Only problem is they are broken up into 5-7 minute clips. The insect ones? Those rule
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The best 3D movie I've seen was Pina 3D documentary about Pina Bausch and her choreography. It was better than seeing the performances live since we could get so close. One memorable scene started with a close view of a dancer snapping their fingers.
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Jackass 3D was brought up a lot last time this topic came up as well.
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I like that early evolution video where the tiny arthropod predators are giant and scary
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How would I go about renting or buying online versions of feature films like Fury Road to watch in 3D using my headset? Is that even currently possible without owning a physical copy of the 3D edition?
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Bigscreen does 3D movie rentals I believe.
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Minnesota Manatee posted:How would I go about renting or buying online versions of feature films like Fury Road to watch in 3D using my headset? Is that even currently possible without owning a physical copy of the 3D edition? This is one of those times  is by far the easiest method, even if you own the 3d bluray
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