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I've been truly wondering what is the critical number in the USA where even the most stubborn anti-masker antivax people and republicans acknowledge the existence of the COVID-19. US is back to ~2k per day and closing in on the 900k dead in even the fairly conservative Worldometers statistics; I know that some other say that they have been 1M+ since last summer.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Two goddamn years of me and my wife sacrificing and doing everything we could to make sure our kids didn't get this thing and today my 5 year old comes home from school with a 102 degree fever. We tested her and sure enough, she has covid. 1) No way of knowing for certain but her chances of full recovery are good. 2) Nope, they're testing for different things 3) I can't tell you there's zero chance of that but the chances are pretty low
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Yeah I'm not really worried about her recovering, I'm sure she will. I'm worried about lifelong side effects like brain fog and tinnitus and poo poo like that. This is scaring the crap out of me.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Yeah I'm not really worried about her recovering, I'm sure she will. I'm worried about lifelong side effects like brain fog and tinnitus and poo poo like that. This is scaring the crap out of me. There's no rhyme or reason to who gets it, it seems, nor is there much you can do to prevent it that you haven't already done. Just know the odds are greatly in her favor for a full uneventful recovery and the first shot can only have helped.
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Oracle posted:There's no rhyme or reason to who gets it, it seems, nor is there much you can do to prevent it that you haven't already done. Just know the odds are greatly in her favor for a full uneventful recovery and the first shot can only have helped. Thank you  Are there any studies showing people getting longcovid side effects months or more after having had covid? Or is it basically like a thing where if you got tinnitus or diabetes from covid you got it right away while you were sick?
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I haven't been to a bar or night club or eaten in a restaurant in 2 years so I have trouble feeling anything but immense sadness when goons come in here acting like they're being careful while describing explicitly careless activities. Galewolf posted:Well, no? Current government rules are "masks on" for the public transport and shops/markets/whatever (nightclubs and restaurants are considered exempt). I know in practice it's pretty lol but "you weren't wearing it in the pub, why you are wearing in the cab?" is like basically not considering cabbies or transport/service people as not humans. What part do you think I got owned? Like this post reads to me as someone visiting a leprosy ward to wash all of the patients' wounds with their tongue and then being like "why aren't you wearing a mask on the drive home, don't you know the rules??"
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QuarkJets posted:I haven't been to a bar or night club or eaten in a restaurant in 2 years so I have trouble feeling anything but immense sadness when goons come in here acting like they're being careful while describing explicitly careless activities. Risk assessment and tolerance are pretty personal, and in nations where there are no lockdowns I can't really fault folks too much if they're fully vaccinated and want to just live life to the extent they are comfortable. That said, you really gotta own it and not get grouchy about the people who are out there with you lol.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Thank you
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Stickman posted:I swear someone posted a study a while back that specifically compared source control and respiratory protection for n95s with good/poor fit and surgical masks. It even had a nice chart with reduction and color-coded pictures of the masks instead of boring points. I’m pretty sure the conclusion was that a poorly fitting n95 was on par or better than a surgical mask, but I can’t seem to find it again… This one?  Paper: https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118
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Oh yeah can she still get the second shot on the 21st if she got covid in between the two shots? Or does this gently caress all that up? Anne Whateley posted:My parents and grandparents were diagnosed with serious issues afterward. They might have been diagnosable sooner, but it takes awhile to realize something's not right and not getting better, awhile to get to see the doctor, awhile to get the tests or scans, etc. Exactly what I am terrified of.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This one? That's the one. I couldn't remember their methodology and unfortunately it looks like it's a modeling study based on filtration efficiency and dynamics rather than experimental (though they did some small measurements to estimate parameters like leakage). Considering the lack of direct experimental studies, though, it's probably the current best guess at relative effectiveness of loose fitting n95s vs surgical masks. By their estimation, loose fitting n95s are significantly better than surgical masks unless everyone you are interacting with also has an n95 (loose or fitted), at which point they're just slightly better.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Oh yeah can she still get the second shot on the 21st if she got covid in between the two shots? Or does this gently caress all that up? quote:Exactly what I am terrified of.
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Anne Whateley posted:No, they'll hold off Thanks, I'm really not scared about her getting through it, I know she will. I'm just really scared of finding out she's gonna have lung scarring or vertigo when she's 30 from it.
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Der Kyhe posted:I've been truly wondering what is the critical number in the USA where even the most stubborn anti-masker antivax people and republicans acknowledge the existence of the COVID-19. US is back to ~2k per day and closing in on the 900k dead in even the fairly conservative Worldometers statistics; I know that some other say that they have been 1M+ since last summer. There is no such number, their narrative is that it's the vaccine killing people and when no one was vaccinated then the numbers were fake. The streets could be full of corpses and it wouldn't matter, they'd just say "can't believe Democrats are getting away with this" QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Oh yeah can she still get the second shot on the 21st if she got covid in between the two shots? Or does this gently caress all that up? Her catching COVID-19 is the heavy-duty version of the second shot, and she'll probably have to wait awhile before getting the second one. The good news is her getting sick trained her body to fight the infection for sure, the bad news is it may do damage along the way. Kids are very resilient though. I have heard that subsequent doses and boosters are sometimes alleviating long-COVID symptoms, so on the off-chance she gets them, it's not Doomerville.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:This one? This is a diagram of Zardoz heads watching two people about to kiss. The numbers are measurements of arousal
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Thanks, I'm really not scared about her getting through it, I know she will. I'm just really scared of finding out she's gonna have lung scarring or vertigo when she's 30 from it. There are tons of thing she gets exposed all the time that have with potentially rare side effects. Some of them we don't even know about yet and won't until years or decades in the future. You can't live your life worrying about something which is uncommon and over which you have absolutely no control anyway. Worry about what is, not what might be.
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How are u posted:Risk assessment and tolerance are pretty personal, and in nations where there are no lockdowns I can't really fault folks too much if they're fully vaccinated and want to just live life to the extent they are comfortable. It gets a lot less personal when you are assessing the risk you pose to other people and decide "eh, I'm OK rolling the dice on them."
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Thank you Long COVID seems to show up 4-8 weeks after recovery. No hard and fast rule here though. Best course of action is to have her rest, and even when she's feeling better, keep her resting. Good luck on that with a little kid. As for who gets Long COVID and if vaccination works to cut the odds, jury is still out. Some studies point to long term effects in 1/3 of those who get COVID, but a lot of those don't meaningfully break out long term symptoms (a persistent cough or depression vs chronic fatigue syndrome). Latest studies say vaccines may reduce your risk of long C by half, but it's hard to identify if that's because the vaccinated group is less likely to get sick in the first place, or what. You've done what you can, overall your kiddos are in a much better place for dealing with COVID than any of us dying forum oldsters are going to be. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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the holy poopacy posted:It gets a lot less personal when you are assessing the risk you pose to other people and decide "eh, I'm OK rolling the dice on them." "Risk assessment is personal" is a ridiculous statement when it comes to public health, and infectious diseases in particular. It's only "personal" in the sense that wherever we don't have effective policy you have to make your own choices. That doesn't really absolve us from criticism about the choices we make that continue to affect each other in obvious ways.
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Inept posted:https://www.grainger.com/product/HONEYWELL-Disposable-Respirator-56LA92 thanks grabbed a few boxes
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Stickman posted:"Risk assessment is personal" is a ridiculous statement when it comes to public health, and infectious diseases in particular. It's only "personal" in the sense that wherever we don't have effective policy you have to make your own choices. That doesn't really absolve us from criticism about the choices we make that continue to affect each other in obvious ways. My decision to drive drunk is my PERSONAL choice, and my PERSONAL risk assessment. Gotta live your life, you know?
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Good news! Omicron can never kill you! Because the government no longer reports your death! Lol. https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/covid-19-faqs-hospitals-hospital-laboratory-acute-care-facility-data-reporting.pdf
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obvs people have been making up their own personal rules for what's okay or not with covid all along, but still the image of some guy coming on here harrumphing about how dumb and inconsiderate those Rogan listeners are after getting chauffeured home from a night of unmasked clubbing is just the most depressing thing I've read in a couple years of depressing things. I think I'm blackpilled now like all anyone's ever gonna do about plagues and wildfires and general social collapse is buy a ribbon bumper sticker for their SUV and get extremely mad online about people who bought the wrong color ribbon, isn't it A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jan 14, 2022 |
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Just ordered some masks from Grainger. Thanks for posting. My dad is scheduled to be released Monday and I guess regardless of testing status unless something drastically changes. He is congested, coughing, sore throat, headache. Also lost his sense of taste Tuesday evening, which is another concern that he doesn’t have omicron. It’s been 8 days since he tested positive and isn’t improving and getting more symptoms. So yeah.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the image of some guy coming on here harrumphing about how dumb and inconsiderate those Rogan listeners are after getting chauffeured home from a night of unmasked clubbing is just the most depressing thing I've read in a couple years of depressing things, I think I'm blackpilled now It's gonna be ok dude, you're gonna be ok.
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brugroffil posted:My decision to drive drunk is my PERSONAL choice, and my PERSONAL risk assessment. Gotta live your life, you know? That’s actually very different, it’s not at all comparable 😡 because drunk driving isn’t contagious, so the most people you can directly affect are the ones in your car and the ones you hit. Being irresponsible about COVID is worse than drunk driving since you turn other people into vectors without them being aware of it for a while, who can go on to spread it further
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But Doctor, It's my laughter that's contagious.
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Objective Action posted:Good news! Omicron can never kill you! lol
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Objective Action posted:Good news! Omicron can never kill you! For what it's worth, this is just the HHS. The CDC also collects death data, but every CDC dataset I've seen is slow as hell. I also checked all the various places I check for data and none of them seem to use the HHS deaths at a glance. Edit: I'd like to say I don't mean that it's smart or good that the HHS isn't collecting deaths, but that deaths will still be getting reported elsewhere. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 15, 2022 |
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Reminder: only in your respirator trust
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AEMINAL posted:Reminder: only in your respirator trust On that topic... I've been wearing a full-face P100 every time I step out the door for the past 2 years. Never got the roni from what I can tell, never lost my sense of smell or had any sickness outside of directly following a vaccine. I got the 1st Pfizer, not too bad. I got the 2nd Pfizer, knocked me out for a day and a half. I got the Pfizer booster a month ago, beat the absolute poo poo out of me for three days. Ever since the booster, I'm having heart palpitations and skipped beats, like a couple times an hour. I'm late thirties, fit, correct weight, no drugs/alcohol. Went to the VA today, they fitted me for a heart monitor to check into it. I thought I needed to wear it for a couple says, the nurse tells me I actually have to wear it for 14 days! "Don't sweat it, you're not the first young man in this room to need a heart monitor after the booster" "I'm not?" "You're not even the tenth" So yeah, did I just do All The Right Things (tm) only to get owned anyway?
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Zero VGS posted:On that topic... I've been wearing a full-face P100 every time I step out the door for the past 2 years. Never got the roni from what I can tell, never lost my sense of smell or had any sickness outside of directly following a vaccine. My moderna booster laid me out for 6 days straight with fatigue. Day 5 seemed like I was clear by the end and then I had to call in to work on day 6 because I couldn't safely operate a motor vehicle I was so tired. Took about 2 weeks to get fully back to normal. Haven't had any heart poo poo, though, but that's definitely A Thing on my watchlist since shot #1.
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MrQwerty posted:My moderna booster laid me out for 6 days straight with fatigue. Day 5 seemed like I was clear by the end and then I had to call in to work on day 6 because I couldn't safely operate a motor vehicle I was so tired. Took about 2 weeks to get fully back to normal. I guess Pfizer is off the hook for damages too... at least my substandard VA care is free, that's probably a better situation than like 99% of the country. numberoneposter posted:how fast do the side effects of the booster come on? It was within a week for me, the skipped beat thing was kind of subtle since I've never had if before and it's only once or twice and hour, and I can only notice it when I'm stationary on the couch or in bed. edit: the fever/chills was 8 hours later, I mean the weird heart stuff was within a week. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jan 15, 2022 |
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styls trill epic posted:Epic biden offering "free" tests if you fill out a bunch of impossible paperwork from your private insurance company that will take several hours you can potentially be reimbursed .... THANK YOU EPIC JOE The form you must fill out to get Covid tests from the government: 
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numberoneposter posted:how fast do the side effects of the booster come on? Mine were consistently T+4 for feeling it/my arm getting really sore and T+8-12 for the real poo poo to start, and my real poo poo was consistently chills, barely a fever, body aches to the point of skin aching, and extreme exhaustion
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numberoneposter posted:how fast do the side effects of the booster come on? Mine was next day I think? Or like ~8 hours afterwards. But honestly it depends on the person and their own biological makeup, because I've seen people say that they had no side effects whatsoever and others who get knocked out for a couple of days. Me, I just feel like my midsection becomes an Italian pizza oven and I get very tired
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Zero VGS posted:So yeah, did I just do All The Right Things (tm) only to get owned anyway? Yes. Sorry about the heart problems.
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