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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:WOW that was a long final quest. Really awesome msq and a great ending to the entire saga up until this point Yeah that's about where I'm at. ShB at the top for me but EW is a close second and a satisfying follow-up.
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Crackerjack posted:Stay calm, everyone! The Eorzean Civilian Rescue Corps. has arrived. 
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Crackerjack posted:Stay calm, everyone! The Eorzean Civilian Rescue Corps. has arrived.  One day I will master the art of screenshotting.
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Crackerjack posted:Stay calm, everyone! The Eorzean Civilian Rescue Corps. has arrived.
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  I really like going a bit historical, or at least renfaire, so I went for the scholarly tabard and slashed pantaloons. the ravel sleeves are fun to go wildly against that though Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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Crackerjack posted:Stay calm, everyone! The Eorzean Civilian Rescue Corps. has arrived.   I wish my freckles didn't get washed out by every bit of Gpose lighting.
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I haven't started leveling sage yet, but I just got monk to 90 and I love my new glam. Behold!  A beefy male viera! 
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Crackerjack posted:Stay calm, everyone! The Eorzean Civilian Rescue Corps. has arrived. From last time Sage glams were posted: Saigyouji posted:
Finally got some of these!  Not the biggest fan of Pendulums but I figured I'd try them out for a bit.  And for when I'm feeling a bit more classy:  (This is from the ShB dungeon despite sharing a model with like 3 other pieces. Because the dye pattern was slightly off on the other ones I had to farm that dungeon for like 2 hours) And speaking of farming dungeons for hours for a single glam, finally got the Skalla jacket of aiming for my "formal" MCH glam. Took like 3 days of farming that on and off, I swear I got literally every other piece of gear from that dungeon before this one dropped. 
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Harrow posted:Out of curiosity, when would you actually use Six-Sided Star? Is it meant to be a thing where you time it just right to use it before a boss goes invulnerable or out of reach or something? I mainly think of it as a way to respect mechanics when you're still learning a fight. Like when ex2 does the AoE around the boss you can time it so you don't miss any GCDs, but if you 6SS you can get away faster and preserve most of your DPS.
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So, I made it to the lv 89 quests and gave up on Endwalker. Didn't enjoy it at all, and I think I may be throwing in the towel on FFXIV for good. To be clear, I'm not saying Endwalker is bad. It is just... extremely not my deal. Shadowbringers wasn't either, and I think it's telling that the same folks who thought SHB was the best expansion are really digging this one. Personally, I thought Stormblood was the high point of the series. Someone upthread said something about EW being Final Fantasy XIV at it's most Final Fantasy, and I think that about sums it up. I preferred FFXIV when it was at its most Suikoden or at its most D&D. I felt the same way about the MCU - the more "epic" and high-stakes everything got, the less interested I became. That said, things about EW that I think are just legitimately bad: all of the escort/follow/chase quests. Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Things about EW I actually liked: Elpis, mostly. I did not expect to like it, but it was a solid story and the characters were compelling. My personal rankings of the expansions: 1. Stormblood - like I said, it reminds me of Suikoden. Really liked the setting, villains, raids, and most of the characters. Eureka sucks but I liked most everything else. 2. ARR - yes, it's grindy and has all of the early design flaws. But again, I like (relatively) low-stakes adventures and I enjoy the setting. Also, while ARR has some of the worst dungeons (Toto-Rak, AV, etc.) it also has the BEST dungeons in the game for me because they're actually creative and memorable. With each expansion, the dungeons have become more homogenized and boring IMO. 3. Heavensward - good plot, good raids, dungeons are pretty cool, dragons are cool, I like it for a lot of the same reasons I like the first couple. 4. Shadowbringers - I didn't get emotionally attached to this the way everyone else seemed to. It's good, and I liked it, but the dungeons/trials/raids didn't grab me as much as previous expansions. It's not far behind the other three though, I want to make that part clear. 5. Endwalker - first one I just flat out didn't like at all. Like I said, it's not objectively bad or anything, but it wasn't for me.
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rujasu posted:So, I made it to the lv 89 quests and gave up on Endwalker. Didn't enjoy it at all, and I think I may be throwing in the towel on FFXIV for good. Perfectly reasonable. It might be worth checking in for 6.1 since they are scaling down and starting a new story which likely means they'll be going back to more of the stuff you liked, but if you didn't like it you didn't like it.
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rujasu posted:Someone upthread said something about EW being Final Fantasy XIV at it's most Final Fantasy, and I think that about sums it up. I preferred FFXIV when it was at its most Suikoden or at its most D&D. I felt the same way about the MCU - the more "epic" and high-stakes everything got, the less interested I became. Leaving aside the rest, there might be hope for you in the future of FFXIV. This doesn't really have Endwalker spoilers but I'll tag it anyway: Both the game's dialogue and out-of-game statements by Yoshida after Endwalker are really stressing that, starting in 6.1, we're not going to be doing big Warrior of Light things again, at least not right away. They've been very much stressing the that the player character's role is going to be that of an "adventurer" rather than "hero" or "Warrior of Light." It sounds like, as some people speculated, the story is going to scale back starting in 6.1 and be more about adventuring and smaller-scale threats again, once building up to something big slowly over several expansions. Personally I'm really excited for that, as much as I enjoyed Endwalker. It worked for me because they took the time to build up to going big, but if they just kept escalating I'd absolutely lose interest, too. So maybe when they start showing off 6.1 or even 7.0 it might be something more to your interests. Harrow fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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Edmund Lava posted:Managed to go this whole game without shedding an actual tear and (level 88 quest) Meeting Moenbryda’s parents just wrecked me. Well done FFXIV cried like a baby here. though i've cried and also ugly cried at too many scenes in this game. im a shameful gamer
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bi crimes posted:cried like a baby here. though i've cried and also ugly cried at too many scenes in this game. im a shameful gamer There is no shame in showing emotion, friend. That scene (as did many) completed wrecked me.
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Honestly I didn't care too much for the scene itself, but I do appreciate that Endwalker as a whole goes deep into the fact that both your enemies and your allies have families and are connected to the world and don't just exist in a vacuum. Though it would be nice for Y'Shtola to acknowledge her sister exists, once in a while.
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We only know one but Y'shtola's probably got like a billion sisters, who has the time
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Begemot posted:I haven't started leveling sage yet, but I just got monk to 90 and I love my new glam. Behold! Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken, I've even forgotten my name!
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BrightWing posted:Memories broken, the truth goes unspoken, I've even forgotten my name! You gotta do it with style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAVIZrs4HTc
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Regalingualius posted:You gotta do it with style Psst, spend PvP medals on the Late Allagan set for Samurai 
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Managed to get a RPR glamour I'm happy with. Nothing but heroic adventures here! 
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Kerrzhe posted:why does urianger, the tallest scion, not simply eat the other scions Perhaps they are saving that for 6.1. HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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Draxion posted:We only know one but Y'shtola's probably got like a billion sisters, who has the time
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Kerrzhe posted:why does urianger, the tallest scion, not simply eat the other scions He's afraid if he does that he'll invite the dread minotaur Baine Bloodhoof to eat him in turn. Alternatively, I'm pretty sure he's eaten Moenbryda at least once. Although he will obviously never do so again.
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Lord_Magmar posted:He's afraid if he does that he'll invite the dread minotaur Baine Bloodhoof to eat him in turn. Is eating another word for loving
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The man called M posted:Is eating another word for loving Oral sex with a vagina.
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Ziddar posted:Managed to get a RPR glamour I'm happy with. Nothing but heroic adventures here! What weapon is that?
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rujasu posted:So, I made it to the lv 89 quests and gave up on Endwalker. Didn't enjoy it at all, and I think I may be throwing in the towel on FFXIV for good. It didn't ruin the game for, but I've also come around to really disliking EW's story. For me the content has at least been excellent with some great class design tweaks, so it won't drive me to quit but it is disappointing. And I am someone who LOVED Shadowbringers, but I loved it because of the incredible character focus it had. If anything I'd say everything that Shadowbringers did well and made me love it EW hosed up. Introducing me to new locales and making me care about them, making me like the Scions, giving an incredible antagonist, treating an apocalypse seriously. Though I have to split my feelings on story vs content because the expansions come out very differently. Like storywise it'd be Shadowbringers > Heavensward > Stormblood > ARR > EW for me. Contentwise though? Stormblood > Endwalker (so far) > Shadowbringers > ARR > Heavensward. Heavensward was the nadir of content because the content itself was ridiculous in difficulty AND class design was incredibly convulated and made to be different AND it ruined my old ARR main of blm.
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Speaking of: as BLM, how often should I be using the “next Fire/Lightning is guaranteed to proc” CD? I’m in the low 80’s, and all I’ve ever really used it for is those times when I gently caress up with Fire IV and need to get back to 3 ASAP.
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Regalingualius posted:Speaking of: as BLM, how often should I be using the “next Fire/Lightning is guaranteed to proc” CD? I’m in the low 80’s, and all I’ve ever really used it for is those times when I gently caress up with Fire IV and need to get back to 3 ASAP. Pretty much on cooldown. It's most often used on Thunder, but either proc is great for movement. It's not a recovery tool, it's a damage and movement tool.
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Regalingualius posted:Speaking of: as BLM, how often should I be using the “next Fire/Lightning is guaranteed to proc” CD? I’m in the low 80’s, and all I’ve ever really used it for is those times when I gently caress up with Fire IV and need to get back to 3 ASAP. You should be using sharpcast for every use of thunder 3 so that you're guaranteed to always have thundercloud the next time. Using it on your fire1/paradox if you're worried your fire phase is going to get messed up is also fine. Basically just be using it as much as possible. It's best used as preparation rather than reaction. You always have at least 1 cast of it per rotation cycle, and the buff itself will sit around for 30 seconds.
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Eimi posted:, treating an apocalypse seriously. . And by this they mean that not enough death happened and main characters actually survived to complete their character arcs instead of being murderd to be edgy. Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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Regalingualius posted:Speaking of: as BLM, how often should I be using the “next Fire/Lightning is guaranteed to proc” CD? I’m in the low 80’s, and all I’ve ever really used it for is those times when I gently caress up with Fire IV and need to get back to 3 ASAP. Basically once I enter ice phase, I go sharp, thunder, b4, paradox, sharp, then enter fire phase, by the time I cast my astral fire refresh it will still be active to proc fire 3 which I usually save till before Foul, or if I have sudden movement and am running down the Astral fire clock
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I finished the 5.0 MSQ six days ago, but struggled to put my thought into writing, in part because I took a lot less notes during the climax than I usually do. Still, in the interest of finishing what I started, here are  79 Crystarium: I didn’t realise until Ardbert started talking about knowing what it feels to be responsible for the state the sky is in that the game is once again drawing a parallel between us. And indeed, walking through the Crystarium and talking to every NPC was pretty painful whenever they placed their hope in the WoL. I also swung by the Inn at Journey’s End to see what they had to say about the return of the Light but they were a lot more stoic than I expected them to be. They establish during those 79 quests that the timey-wimey rules we’re working under is that by changing the past you erase the future you’re living in before immediately swinging back around and saying (immediate post-MSQ) this didn’t actually matter and the Exarch was twinned enough in this timeline not be erased, somehow, as expected The final zone feels a bit empty, even though I took some time to do some sidequests. Usually, by the time I’m done with the MSQ in a zone, I’ve done enough busywork to know the zone and get to the second level of Shared Fates at least. Here we just get through very quickly without spending too much time with the inhabitants of the first half. Instead the zone is dedicated to the MSQ narrative. Which isn’t a bad thing considering what a narrative it is, but feels like a strange allocation of resources. How was the zone when ShB was current? The only black mark in this narrative is (final 79 MSQ): the sudden detour it asks the player to do to finish their role quest. It wasn’t too much a problem for me since I had three of them at the 80 step at this point, but I had deliberately decided to leave them for after the finale, mostly because the story had done a good job of imparting a sense of urgency to our getting to where Emet-Selch is. Asking us to make a trip back to the surface to complete a sidequest undoes a lot of that great work. It becomes clear later why they force us to finish the role quest here, but there had to have been better ways to do this, narratively 80 MSQ The road to Amaurot and seeing the Scions doing their own thing on the path was really fun, I wish they did that more rather than just have them stacked up around the quest giver or objective. Amaurot was grandiose and really interesting to visit, but again seemed too big for the amount of content they included. I wanted more NPC to speak to, more information about its people. What makes the Ancients special? Sheer size apparently. Again not much difference between us half rejoined folks of the Source and those of the First in that department, but it was a novel experience to see my Roe WoL have to crane his neck up constantly. I wondered if the size difference was just Emet-Selch’s aggrandising his fallen brethren in his memories, but the ancient seem appropriately sized for their buildings, and their size in Emet-Selch’s reconstruction matches those of the ruins in the Tempest. The game is clearly drawing a parallel between the final days of the First Ardbert experienced, the final days of the unsundered star Emet-Selch lived through, and the final days of the Source and the First as they face a rejoining we’re playing through right now. We can see and compare how everyone reacted and how they sought to avert or accept disaster, and this ties back into the later conversation with E-S when he asks the Scions if they think half the world would sacrifice themselves to save the other half (a really hard argument to rebuke, but the game has also just shown us the First coming together to bring down Vauthry, even if my cynical heart found it too easy and a bit contrived) World-building stuff that caught my eye: The name Loghrif comes back as one of the Convocation of 14, alongside Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, Elidibus and a fifth, new to me name, Mitron. But I thought there were only 3 unsundered Ascians, so what’s going on here? It’s possible they were only recently killed as we did Lahabrea, but then I’d expect they’d have been active at some points in the history of the Source, and thus known to the Scions (Also that number is interesting: 14 councilmembers, 14 shards… or I’m reading too much into that and it’s just a reference to the game’s number) A sixth unnamed member is noted to have resigned over the plan to summon Zodiark, which seems significant but wasn’t followed upon anywhere that I could find. Having a character named Hythlodaeus in Emet-Selch’s lost utopia was extremely cheeky of the writers. The Ascians aren’t merely trying to restore the world to the way they knew it, but to fulfill a promise to the 3/4th of their population that sacrificed themselves willingly. That provides a solid motive to their actions, even though they also require a callous disregard for the worth of the lives they’d snuff out doing so. It’s interesting that Hydaelyn was only powered by half the souls Zodiark was, yet managed to subdue him. I wonder if the Garlean officers practice of wearing masks is something that was started by emperor Solus in imitation of the ancients… Ardbert isn’t merely our counterpart in the First, but a fragment from the same sundered soul, dating back to the time of the Ancients. I hadn’t really considered the possibility that people in the present might be remnants of souls from that time, or just constantly reincarnated. And not only is our soul ancient, it’s also the soul of someone significant back in that time, explaining the interest Emet-Selch took in us. Does he do his Ascian recruitment routine to everyone that catches his eye, or just to the sundered fragments of the ancients he knew? Is this where Loghrif came from? “In every single age, there is always someone who wants to stand up to the evil Ascians” I really hope this isn’t implying that the soul of the WoL is the one always doing reincarnation after reincarnation. Let other people be important to this plot, please. MSQ 80 “Shadowbringers” The dungeon was visually very cool, but didn’t bring a lot of answer as to the nature of the cataclysm that wiped the ancients. Their creative magics ran amok once panic set in, but that wasn’t the inciting incident. What made the first beasts appear? So Ardbert really was the key to the light burden the WoL carried, precisely by being fragments of the same soul. The implication is that Ardbert fused with the WoL as though through a rejoining making us that tiny bit stronger and a deeper sink for the light aether, I guess? Whatever the reason, Ardbert saved his world in the end. And allowed the WoL to be voiced for a split second, haha. Is the implication of Emet-Selch’s vision that he only recognised the WoL as a trace of that important ancient just in that instant? I’m ready to believe that the true form of an unsundered is less human and more like an aetheric raid boss, but what’s the in-universe significance of the name Hades? We know he was Emet-Selch as a member of the Convocation from NPC in Amaurot, so what’s with this other true name? Is this just a plot device to hide the Trial’s boss name to the unspoiled? I had to rewatch Nabriales, Igeyorhm and Lahabrea’s defeats to compare them to Emet’s. For the first two of them, we beat them, caught them in an Aetherite, then destroyed it with a lot of aether. Lahabrea was fed on by the primal Thordan. Emet-Selch was pinned by the aetherite, but not absorbed by it, then managed to destroy it. That’s the point that kept nagging at me while watching the cutscene. I’ll accept that the concentration of Light accumulated in the WoL was more than enough aether to strike him down, but that was a very different end to an Ascian than what we had previously seen. I wouldn’t be very surprised to see a tiny remnant of him pop up in Endwalker, but if Emet is done that’s fine too, I guess that’s my thought on that. At the end, this was a very fitting end to Ardbert’s character arc and a good conclusion to G’raha’s ShB arc. Emet-Selch was an excellent character, but in the end I wish he spent less time spouting his disdain at us and more trying to convince us of the rightness of his cause like he was claiming to do. The revelations throughout and at the end of the MSQ that the WoL might be more of an equal to him than he suspected and his plea to remember that the ancient lived were interesting enough that I wish they spent a little more time on those aspects. Basically I wanted the full Ascian recruitment course and I don’t think the game presented a good enough argument for that, while more conversations with a more open Emet-Selch might have done the trick. Even more basically, the game did a good job giving us a motive for the unsundered Ascians, but not for the people of the Source and the Shards that decided to join them later (except a personnal wish for power, like Nabrieles, but that's extremely boring). Elidibus will have very large shoes to fill and his little rant on the moon makes me doubt once again whether he’ll be able to Post-MSQ stinger + Bozja intro: I don’t have much to say about Zenos murdering his father and becoming the main antagonist, with a very personal rapport to the WoL, except that this murder, coupled with Varis’ reappearance as a duty and extreme raid boss in the intro to Bozja, makes me wonder if they didn’t have a change of plan for the Garlean empire and recycled the raid fight with the emperor they already had completed as side content. A personal contest with Zenos is probably easier to fit into a MMO gameplay than the region scale conflict they had in mind (and honestly failed to achieve) in Stormblood. In that optic, Bozja might be a reflection of what they had in mind for that conflict back in 4.x, but that’s conjecture I won’t be able to engage with until I’m finished with 5.1 and can access Bozja proper. I also finished the role quests and their capstone. They were pretty solid character stories, except for the physical one (it had the weakest main character, and the least parallelism with its WoD). The capstone was a bit disappointing in that it mostly confirmed what I already had pieced together rather than bring me more information. The involvement of more heroes of the Void Shard was probably the more tantalising bit, but they didn’t really give us much about the Void anyway, nor the way the flood of light was achieved. I also did the BLM post-capstone, which was an interesting epilogue to Lalai’s story, but I’d love to revisit them in an expansion or two to see what impact the BLM plot had on the world. Finally, I did Amdapor Hard for relic purpose and was reminded the last two bosses share models with sin eaters, with the last boss casting light magic. I did note the similarity with the ShB trailer, but my questions haven’t really been solved. 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