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Trabisnikof posted:AMOC hasn’t completely collapsed, it is just continuing to weaken and weaken towards collapse which is in line with that report i think op was pointing out that unexpectedly high meltwater from greenland might throw their models out the window, and
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Jan 16, 2022 17:38
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When I legitimately have no idea whether my provincial or federal government still exists, I will know we are well into it. There will always be a municipal government though, when it changes from mayor/council or communist commune, cannibal tribe or warring gangs will be driven by local pressures.
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Jan 16, 2022 17:45
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Raine posted:lol On the one hand he gave so little fucks about material reality that he burned himself alive and didn't flinch On the other hand he did that as a form of protest because of other people's actions in the material world 7/10
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Jan 16, 2022 19:23
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AMOC collapsing will be incredible
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Jan 16, 2022 19:28
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What would the AMOC collapsing actually do? I know predicting weather now is impossible since the winds and waters are flapping around like crazy but who cares
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Jan 16, 2022 19:34
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europe gets the same weather as northern canada
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Jan 16, 2022 19:38
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Crow Buddy posted:When I legitimately have no idea whether my provincial or federal government still exists, I will know we are well into it. Don’t worry, they’ll collect ground rents and push little people around until the last possible minute they can
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Jan 16, 2022 19:41
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Rectal Death Adept posted:What would the AMOC collapsing actually do? almost impossible to know but i’d wager all those pretty english gardens are going to have a very bad time also all the whales will die mediaphage has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Jan 16, 2022 |
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Jan 16, 2022 19:42
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it's past time for whales to gently caress off They know what they did
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Jan 16, 2022 19:53
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Rectal Death Adept posted:What would the AMOC collapsing actually do? Last time it happened temperatures in the north Atlantic dropped by 1-3 C
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Jan 16, 2022 20:08
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I'd let a city full of humans die to save one whale.
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Jan 16, 2022 20:08
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Rectal Death Adept posted:What would the AMOC collapsing actually do? Off the top of my head, AMOC collapse would result in significant cooling of the entire Northern Hemisphere, more than enough to offset the heating from greenhouse gases:  It would also result in up to 50 cm of sea level rise around the North Atlantic basin, and have a disastrous effect on rainfall patterns in Europe especially, and significantly decrease crop productivity there. The UK would be hit especially hard. There's a lot more but that's what I'm remembering
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Jan 16, 2022 20:10
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How's that hot spot in South America going? Wasn't it supposed to hit around now?
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Jan 16, 2022 20:10
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Off the top of my head, AMOC collapse would result in significant cooling of the entire Northern Hemisphere, more than enough to offset the heating from greenhouse gases: Thus shielding the global north from baking even as we cook the southern hemisphere, it's perfect
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Jan 16, 2022 20:11
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The Demilich posted:I'd let a city full of humans die to save one whale. ahh but what if instead, u let the city and the whales die 
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Jan 16, 2022 20:18
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Jan 16, 2022 20:18
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The Demilich posted:I'd let a city full of humans die to save one whale. Hell, my city
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Jan 16, 2022 20:23
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Mayor Dave posted:Thus shielding the global north from baking even as we cook the southern hemisphere, it's perfect You joke (or maybe not) but I wouldn't be surprised if "let's collapse AMOC on purpose" is suggested as an actual climate engineering solution once things start to get bad enough, because humans are really that stupid.
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Jan 16, 2022 20:24
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the lack of monsoons and the whole warm air water dynamics can’t be good for the river watersheds of asia, especially the indian subcontinent
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Jan 16, 2022 20:30
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The fact that the AMOC collapsing will cause much more relative harm to the global south than the global north, while at the same time giving more fodder to denialists, really makes me believe that evil is baked into the very fabric of reality. Gnosticism seems truer by the day.
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Jan 16, 2022 20:39
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The Demilich posted:I'd let a city full of humans die to save one whale. I'm pretty sure you're now blocked from entry to Japan.
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Jan 16, 2022 20:40
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Platystemon posted:There were eight years less two days between the PS3 and PS4. Oh poo poo, I don't pay very close attention to console releases. Clearly my sense of time is kinda hosed.
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Jan 16, 2022 21:35
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The Wisest Moron posted:Oh poo poo, I don't pay very close attention to console releases. Clearly my sense of time is kinda hosed. often competitors’ releases can be staggered by a year so it doesn’t feel like there’s a big gap
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Jan 16, 2022 21:52
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Fame Douglas posted:I'm pretty sure you're now blocked from entry to Japan. This is certainly true, but not for the reason you think. (Japan hasn't reopened their borders to gaijin.)
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Jan 16, 2022 21:58
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A Russian troll farm posted:The fact that the AMOC collapsing will cause much more relative harm to the global south than the global north, while at the same time giving more fodder to denialists, really makes me believe that evil is baked into the very fabric of reality. Gnosticism seems truer by the day. If there is a hell, anyone not agreeing with Satan about this being a mistake belongs there.
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Jan 16, 2022 22:02
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Lol the collapse is here because we havent had a new video game console?? Huh Yeah it's stupid and petty, but that's kind of the point. The wide availability of electronic entertainment media is a marker of how much excess our civilization is able to produce. If we get to a point where major corporations are no longer producing and developing this superfluous yet highly popular product then that points to significant material degradation in the economic structure. Think about if you were an alien archeologist digging through human detritus and you get interested in their entertainment culture. You'd see a period starting in the 70s of these computers designed purely for entertainment. Plastics, silicone, rare metals, and significant labor are crystallized in these artifacts. This is a good signal of civilizational decadence and plenty. They continue to evolve over the following decades that happen to coincide with growing environmental shifts. You'd be able to track continued continued evolution in this line of objects up until they just stop appearing in any new form. That would either be indicative of the species wishing up about its priorities oorrrrr a loss of the manufacturing and technological systems that were capable of churning them out. Again, obviously this is very 1st world centric and kinda goofy, but I think it would be one signal (among many) that things are getting "bad". Of course maybe we end up in a world where I can't find rice or beans on the shelves but I can still buy the latest Nintendo console from some dude in the parking lot who lifted it off a shipping container.
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Jan 16, 2022 22:03
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Crow Buddy posted:When I legitimately have no idea whether my provincial or federal government still exists, I will know we are well into it. That's a good and important marker.
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Jan 16, 2022 22:05
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The Wisest Moron posted:Yeah it's stupid and petty, but that's kind of the point. The wide availability of electronic entertainment media is a marker of how much excess our civilization is able to produce. If we get to a point where major corporations are no longer producing and developing this superfluous yet highly popular product then that points to significant material degradation in the economic structure. Honestly you could probably already tick that box off considering I think PS5 and 3080s are largely a theoretical existence at this point. I expect this will continue to exist and be created (or Musk created) but whether you can get one will be unlikely. It is even more likely that things like game studios stop publishing, even if the consoles exist, as they cannot get anyone to put in the bullshit needed because their house is underwater, or they are in the toilet paper line or have just succumb to despair. I think a local staple, but one that isn't grown locally like coffee, not being available will be one of the early signs.
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Jan 16, 2022 22:14
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For all the hooting about covid being a bioweapon, if a virus was designed to destroy capitalism it would attack coffee and tea bushes
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Jan 16, 2022 22:20
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Just wanted to say there are plenty of much more qualified posters around here currently hitting very high notes indeed on the topic of the limits to knowledge (most of them currently busy making the Covid thread shiver and shake), and I am not one of them. I just figured I'd bring up that little caveat about the AMOC since at time of publication, reading the passage I cited hit that note for me. I am in no way saying the IPCC is full of it or claiming the conclusion I led others to infer above will express itself any time soon (but I allow for the possibility). Don't take my posts too seriously, I'm just another weirdo that tries to keep out of this thread for their own sanity.
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Jan 16, 2022 22:21
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only nerds give a poo poo about credentials
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Jan 16, 2022 22:49
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Rectal Death Adept posted:only nerds give a poo poo about credentials nerds and occasionally hr
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Jan 16, 2022 22:52
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Car Hater posted:For all the hooting about covid being a bioweapon, if a virus was designed to destroy capitalism it would attack coffee and tea bushes the black market for anything with caffeine in it would be insane. there's a berry native to northeast NC that is naturally caffeinated. i forget the name at the moment, but i want to try growing some.
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Jan 16, 2022 23:07
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Topo Chico Debarge posted:the black market for anything with caffeine in it would be insane. there's a berry native to northeast NC that is naturally caffeinated. i forget the name at the moment, but i want to try growing some. yaupon. it’s a cousin of yerba mate. the scientific name is ilex vomitoria but that’s because dumb white people just watched indigenous folks use it and assumed it was an emetic
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Jan 16, 2022 23:29
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Crow Buddy posted:Honestly you could probably already tick that box off considering I think PS5 and 3080s are largely a theoretical existence at this point. I expect this will continue to exist and be created (or Musk created) but whether you can get one will be unlikely. It is even more likely that things like game studios stop publishing, even if the consoles exist, as they cannot get anyone to put in the bullshit needed because their house is underwater, or they are in the toilet paper line or have just succumb to despair. Yeah I expect there to be boutique game systems built right till the very end. Mass market consoles are going to die soon I suspect. The grocery store today was out of cigarettes and that made me do a double take lol
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Jan 16, 2022 23:31
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I saw a big old stellar jay accept my offering of peanuts today and all is right with the world 
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Jan 16, 2022 23:33
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Narrator: the Jay had a peanut allergy
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Jan 16, 2022 23:49
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Crow Buddy posted:
World’s Top Coffee Crop Keeps Shrinking, Leading to Shortage. Little relief coming next season amid droughts, low stockpiles. The Big Brazil Frost: “This is dead, look at this,” he says and cuts a branch of a tree. “This is all dead. Everything is gone,” says Rocha, who lost between 80 and 90 per cent of his entire cultivated area.
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Jan 16, 2022 23:50
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Narrator: the Jay had a peanut allergy 
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Jan 16, 2022 23:54
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who needs coffee when we have fentanyl
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