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PaybackJack posted:I'd guess next year we're going to see Sgt. Slaughter get a push in the WOL HoF since he's going to be dropped otherwise. Rocky Johnson is as well and I don't see a big push for him so I would suspect Dave's not getting a Christmas card from Dwayne next year unless a miracle happens. slaughter missed getting in this year by 2% also, mistico missed by .3% among those eligible next year are roman and becky
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Is there a genuine case to be made for Slaughter getting in?
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PaybackJack posted:I'd guess next year we're going to see Sgt. Slaughter get a push in the WOL HoF since he's going to be dropped otherwise. Rocky Johnson is as well and I don't see a big push for him so I would suspect Dave's not getting a Christmas card from Dwayne next year unless a miracle happens. Slaughter is above 50% so he's not in any real danger.
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NienNunb posted:Is there a genuine case to be made for Slaughter getting in? Slaughter had a breif period in the Carolina's and in the WWF were he was a legit draw in tag and singles and was among the best workers. Also the Gi Joe cartoon. However it was a brief period and once he left WWF and went to AWA his drawing power and work rate kinda of fell of a cliff. Funniest and most fitting results was Edge going from 44% to 32% and Orton going from 34% to 27%. CM Punk also went from 15% to 33% and I can see that rising even more if this year remains as strong
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Slaughter in the Carolinas was a really incredible total package. I'm iffy on him because after the mid 80s he is very not a Hall of Famer but before that he's great!
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Okada being at 92% is probably the highest % a modern candidate will probably get on the first ballot but it really should of been up near Liger and Kobashi's levels Charlotte falling of the ballot her first time is super funny
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Next year Meltzer is adding the Holy Demon Army to the ballot so i guess hes sick of the fourth pillar not being in yet and is going to force the issue.
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It's Taue's best chance to get in and tbh they should be in as they clearly were the best tag team of the 90's
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Going through old B&V TNA reviews and just got to the part in June 2014 where Bryan talks at length about how it's impossible he could care less about a story than Dixie Carter vs MVP and I wanna intercut the audio with footage of the Alexa Bliss Doll Saga and some dramatic music stings.
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I also LOL’ed at Edge’s comeback actually driving his percentages down. Also Mistico didn’t get in because he only rounded up to 60.0 instead of actually hitting that level. Alas.
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Meltzer was also talking about expanding the number of available votes for wrestlers from 10 to 15. He either wants to clear the logjams out or is feeling really bad about not voting Edge this year
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NienNunb posted:Is there a genuine case to be made for Slaughter getting in? His bump in Rumble '92 should get him in alone.
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MassRafTer posted:Slaughter in the Carolinas was a really incredible total package. I'm iffy on him because after the mid 80s he is very not a Hall of Famer but before that he's great! Really, he should get in just for forcing Bob Caudle to talk about the state of Slaughter's Privates every week.
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Which one of you emailed Bryan about turning off the Dynamite review?
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There does seem to be wall for candidates that had their career peak in from 80-86 to overcome in hall voting in North America. Candidates like JYD, Slaughter and Orndorff peaks happened just before national TV or had a short period on top during national TV but they all have low points or runs that were just okay from 86 on that are holding them back more than if their peaks happened in say the 70's or after 86
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Congrats to Okada on a well-deserved 100% of the vote. In unrelated news, 8% of Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame voters have had that privilege revoked retroactive to the start of this year's voting period. They have also been divorced by their wives/left by the significant others, disowned by their families, fired by their employers, had their self-owned businesses go under, and I'm not sad, I'm laughing. I'm LAUGHING  Kevino07 posted:Big Dave's dry humour on display there Holy poo poo, Dave 
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if dave doesn't want people to do strategic voting why does he limit the number of votes
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:if dave doesn't want people to do strategic voting why does he limit the number of votes Because it's how baseball does it
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AsInHowe posted:Because it's how baseball does it in case anyone is unaware Baseballs Hall of Fame is absolutely terrible.
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NienNunb posted:Is there a genuine case to be made for Slaughter getting in? yeah. he's a danm Chud
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Wezlar posted:in case anyone is unaware Baseballs Hall of Fame is absolutely terrible. In who gets in or by strategic voting?
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Lid posted:In who gets in or by strategic voting? Both!
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Is he saying strategic voting is 100% bullshit or just that it's bullshit if you use it for someone who you think is a weaker candidate? I didn't vote for Okada because I knew he'd go in and wanted to save room, but I dunno if I feel like I think anyone I voted for is a weaker candidate?
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davidbix posted:I didn't vote for Okada Now this is worth breaking the bad opinions thread rule
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in real HoFs only a handful of people mess with the system to "fix" it or "account" for anything, but i'm sure like 1/3 of people do that when the voting is open to everyone. greatly misses the point
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Barry Bonds would get in the Observer HOF but Hulk Hogan wouldn't get in the Baseball one.
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davidbix posted:Is he saying strategic voting is 100% bullshit or just that it's bullshit if you use it for someone who you think is a weaker candidate? His argument was that if you don't vote for the strongest candidates then its bullshit
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IceAgeComing posted:His argument was that if you don't vote for the strongest candidates then its bullshit It is but he should really use a system that doesn't allow it then.
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when Ichiro Suzuki doesn't get 100% of the voting first ballot we know how stupid it all is
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No punishment could be greater than the shame of voting without honour
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davidbix posted:
He pretty much said anyone who didn't vote for Okada for that exact reason shouldn't be voting.
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davidbix posted:
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Seams posted:bix pls
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Seams posted:bix pls
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I also didn’t vote for Okada i’m sorry
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Gumball Gumption posted:It is but he should really use a system that doesn't allow it then. Like what?
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Genericide posted:Like what? Whatever PWI does
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I understand the idea of strategic voting and I also understand why Meltzer gets frustrated by it, but his whole discussion of the topic boiling down to "This is bullshit, I modeled the Observer Hall of Fame process after the Baseball Hall of Fame, whose voting process I think is bullshit, and am shocked to discover that by copying their process all of the same issues continue to exist in it!" was funny.
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Trying posted:No punishment could be greater than the shame of voting without joy in your heart
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