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nurmie posted:executions didn't really help in stopping the endemic corruption in the late-ish ussr the cruelty is the point
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 07:57 |
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nurmie posted:i mean, one would hope; however, iirc this is sadly an exception rather than the rule (even in china) and corruption generally tends to run deeper than just one ceo or boss who's chosen to be made an example of ah, drat, guess we gotta nuke china
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:01 |
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Corky Romanovsky posted:ah, drat, guess we gotta nuke china why am i not surprised seeing such propositions from someone who voted for Joe Biden
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:04 |
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Corky Romanovsky posted:ah, drat, guess we gotta nuke china agreed.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:08 |
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Someone seems oddly fixated on the fact that just because corruption happens that it should be accepted as a fact of life I wonder why a westerner would think that
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:18 |
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HiroProtagonist posted:Someone seems oddly fixated on the fact that just because corruption happens that it should be accepted as a fact of life i mean, i'm less of a westerner than you lol
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:23 |
at the start of new zealand's delta outbreak, positive cases, their households and other close contacts were put into quarantine hotels – it only stopped because they ran out of space and don't have the workforce to stand up more of them. with home isolation, you're always accepting a level of leakage. china putting entire neighbourhoods into quarantine is more extreme obvs, but it's not some crazy unique measure. i can especially see it making sense if there aren't stay at home orders etc. in place for the wider locality, because then you're just restricting the rights of the highest-risk group. does anyone itt know about this? the only thing i find weird about their covid response is still treating fomite transmission (on like imported frozen goods) as a serious threat lol.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:24 |
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exmarx posted:the only thing i find weird about their covid response is still treating fomite transmission (on like imported frozen goods) as a serious threat lol. you can do this when your cases are so low that fomite transmission represents a greater-than-1% proportion of them
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:36 |
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nurmie posted:why am i not surprised seeing such propositions from someone who voted for Joe Biden woah, you saw this in gbs or dnd link pls
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 08:37 |
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exmarx posted:
Where outside of China would you be able to tell? It seems weitd, but if you handle a lot of freight
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 09:01 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm currently reading "How China Escaped Shock Therapy" by Isabella M. Weber and it's so chock-full of new stuff for me to learn and dig in that if I tried to report about it I'd end up just posting whole chapters of the book, but here's something that's small and digestible: in absolute awe of the purestrain liberalism in action here
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 09:16 |
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sexpig by night posted:lol the D&D thread is really trying to do something huh besides the obvious fact no one should be treating unsourced videos from @TruthAbtChina as authoritative evidence of anything, whatever these videos are they're not of places you'll go if you test positive in china. there are designated hospitals for treatment of positive cases and close contacts are kept in isolation in their homes while the labs run their test results. international arrivals go to designated hotels. there are no purpose-built "quarantine camps" and there haven't been as far as i know since the early days of the pandemic in wuhan. even there the centralized quarantine facilities were repurposed school gymnasiums and whatnot. just big open spaces with a bunch of beds
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 09:47 |
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why were the americans surprised that the nationalists lost having actively worked to sabotage their economy
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 09:48 |
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exmarx posted:the only thing i find weird about their covid response is still treating fomite transmission (on like imported frozen goods) as a serious threat lol. there was a new case in beijing and the patient hadn't traveled outside the city/province in the past 14 days. he did receive an international parcel from canada, though. they took environmental samples from it and they all came back positive. so i don't think the possibility is as remote as one might think
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 09:56 |
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fart simpson posted:the former head of china's version of the fda was executed after some embarrassing bribery related health crises too xi please im beggin' u to take over the cdc
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 10:04 |
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Throatwarbler posted:FDR's silver purchases of 1933/4 basically destroyed the ROC economically. interesting! also been listening to this pod (by a maoist) talk about silver in the context of the opium wars. https://peopleshistoryofideas.com/about/
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 10:06 |
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HiroProtagonist posted:it truly owns how the TFR cold war thread is obsessed with jerking off over imaginary scenarios where china invades taiwan or the philippines (or both) or the DPRK just randomly decides to nuke the US because there's no war scenario conceivable other than asian countries just going insane for unfathomable reasons It's all projection. We go to war over unfathomable reasons all the time, which only make sense to us - so that must mean everybody else is an irrational actor.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 10:16 |
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Some Guy TT posted:why were the americans surprised that the nationalists lost having actively worked to sabotage their economy they were taught wrong, on purpose, as a joke
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 10:17 |
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HiroProtagonist posted:Those are state run labs so if there's a scam being run there's going to be some consequences It'd be justifiable to treat someone running a hypothetical scam like that as committing treason imo. gradenko_2000 posted:I shouldn't be surprised that the Americans hosed over Chiang Kai-Shek, but it's still at least a little shocking that it was so intellectually bankrupt of them. Shades of Paul Bremer in Baghdad If you're ever anywhere near to having anything important to say in any country, always remember to never, under any circumstances, trust a western trained economist. BULBASAUR posted:imagine if a handful of billionaire bankers got executed after the last American banking crisis Any American politician who would delivery anything even close to this would be able to win three presidential terms, minimum. They'd also be mysteriously murdered by an unidentified lone gunman within a week. Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 10:31 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/HuXijin_GT/status/1482699696909209601?s=20
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:01 |
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thinking about Chinese Bobby Axelrod making a "play" like this
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:24 |
gradenko_2000 posted:you can do this when your cases are so low that fomite transmission represents a greater-than-1% proportion of them genericnick posted:Where outside of China would you be able to tell? It seems weitd, but if you handle a lot of freight R. Guyovich posted:there was a new case in beijing and the patient hadn't traveled outside the city/province in the past 14 days. he did receive an international parcel from canada, though. they took environmental samples from it and they all came back positive. so i don't think the possibility is as remote as one might think i thought the evidence around fomites and shipping was pretty weak, but happy to be proven wrong. we had a couple of mystery cases of transmission in quarantine hotels that they originally concluded were due to people touching the same bin or elevator button, but now they think it was probably just aerosols. r. guy's example could have been due to the in-country supply chain (i think that's what this one ended up being), or potentially due an unidentified contact who had returned from another region. i'm sure china's case investigators are good, but the mechanism of infection can be insanely difficult to determine – if your country has strong protective systems in place, the ones that do slip through are often weird/unique.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:29 |
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Some Guy TT posted:https://i.imgur.com/72o7gty.mp4 That little boy is doing the floss dance.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:45 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:thinking about Chinese Bobby Axelrod making a "play" like this Wait wait wait, am I to understand correctly that the ChiComs gained mass support and then power by materially improving the lives of regular people? My God these communists are worse than we were previously led to believe... they are... populists!
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:46 |
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busting speculators by being the biggest commodity trader is pretty ingenious
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:48 |
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The house always wins baby!
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:55 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:busting speculators by being the biggest commodity trader is pretty ingenious It has a bit of an MMO Auction House feel to it tbh
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 12:07 |
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Xi speech to Davos from this morning for those interested. https://youtu.be/dYSFakz7Mcg
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 14:07 |
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Some Guy TT posted:why were the americans surprised that the nationalists lost having actively worked to sabotage their economy One thing that's important to remember about American advisors throughout history and also today is that most of them are diehard ideological true believers in the master narrative of American capitalism and democracy. Even the things they do that they know are wrong in a vacuum, like overthrowing elected officials or crippling developing economies, they usually justify by claiming it's for the greater good and the long-term interests of capitalism and democracy. They legitimately believe that to be true and think they're just the ones who have to make the hard decisions to break a few eggs in order to make the omelet in the long run. Without having read any more on it than the excerpts gradenko posted, I would hazard a guess that the American advisors to Nationalist China legitimately believed that they were offering good economic advice and that if the nationalists had gone through with things like the salt monopoly it would have made things worse, because the advisors were almost certainly true believers in laissez-faire economics. They weren't actively working to sabotage the economy, it just so happens that sabotaging the economy was the end result of what they would have insisted to their dying breath was well-intentioned advice based on the most up-to-date free market economics research available to them.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 14:56 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
state trading agencies doing the "dump eet" meme literally, l-mao
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 14:57 |
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Analysis: China's 'zero-COVID' campaign under strain as Omicron surgesquote:China has become a victim of its own success and is now struggling to find a way out, the U.S.-based Eurasia Group said in a report earlier this month. It's always projection.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 15:55 |
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Homeless Friend posted:american quarantine camp: the only social distancing Americans are willing to do
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 16:55 |
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Tankbuster posted:That little boy is doing the floss dance. But not for more than an hour a week
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:03 |
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:06 |
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Life is cheap but whoopers are expensive.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:10 |
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China WILL fail, says increasingly nervous China Watcher for the 747th day in a row
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:10 |
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vyelkin posted:One thing that's important to remember about American advisors throughout history and also today is that most of them are diehard ideological true believers in the master narrative of American capitalism and democracy. Even the things they do that they know are wrong in a vacuum, like overthrowing elected officials or crippling developing economies, they usually justify by claiming it's for the greater good and the long-term interests of capitalism and democracy. They legitimately believe that to be true and think they're just the ones who have to make the hard decisions to break a few eggs in order to make the omelet in the long run. It keeps happening
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:41 |
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https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1483119789493166082?s=20
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:52 |
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the world's most effective pro-environmental direct action organization strikes again
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1483125473018363913?s=20 the other china genocide not talked about
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:17 |