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It’s an interesting defence to say that his accusers don’t care about feminism, and then immediately turn around and blame it all on the conniving manipulations of A Woman
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People believed my wife’s lies about me just because she mentioned all the bad stuff I did. It’s all her fault that I did the bad stuff. Where was this article published?
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 16:11 |
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the_steve posted:There was the episode where Giles drugged her and then set a vampire after her so she would be forced to kill it without being able to use her "specifically for fighting and killing vampires" powers, because the Watcher Council thought that was a good way to test Slayers. I think this is a bit weak. It's a show where Giles is tortured, Riley is stabbed and ends up hospitalised for several episodes, Oz is regularly locked in a cage. IIRC Xander loses an eye at one point? Buffy gets beaten up in one episode of a series about her beating people up. Not sure its a show massively focused on beating Buffy up.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 16:25 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean even if he was a bad actor it doesn’t seem revelant to the main point Can't be racist against someone that is a bad actor, duh
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 16:42 |
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FightingMongoose posted:I think this is a bit weak. The problem is that Whedon is a sex criminal and was jacking off while writing those scenes
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 16:45 |
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Here’s the whole article, as a series of twitter images. The guy’s a monster: https://twitter.com/Mainterrio/status/1483069934066618373/photo/1 He’d have to be a total narcissist to give that interview and think he would look like a human being. I don’t think this article could be called an attempt to rehabilitate his image, even if he thinks it was an attempt at that.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:03 |
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Believe it or not Joss Whedon actually tried to get a cereal called wheedies made when he was at the height of power
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The origin of the Slayer is given as a bunch of (men) druids chaining a woman up and forcing her to get possessed by a demon, so they could control her and force her to fight demons. This is also the origin of the Watcher Council. Anyway Angel was the better show and I think Joss had very little to do with it, Cordelia's character assassination notwithstanding.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:24 |
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oldpainless posted:Believe it or not Joss Whedon actually tried to get a cereal called wheedies made when he was at the height of power Could you imagine if Buffy had come out more recently? All the lovely tie-in energy drinks and gimmick cereals at FYE?
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:24 |
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I mean Kevin Spacey kept releasing those weird shorts with him in Frank Underwood mode, Louis CK literally just went back to work as if nothing happened, so none of that is really surprising.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 17:25 |
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can't believe that in an attempt to rehabilitate his image joss shares with us the time he was partially responsible for a child's death; something none of us would have known if he'd simply not shared it.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:16 |
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:can't believe that in an attempt to rehabilitate his image joss shares with us the time he was partially responsible for a child's death; something none of us would have known if he'd simply not shared it. Which tweet was it? I couldn't get past 'i write strong female characters because of my mom, but also maybe all my problems were from how she raised me' bs
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:23 |
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I like the part where he has a woman half his age do roleplay with him as one of the slaves from Dollhouse, and he roleplays as the owner of the slaves. And after he gets her to reveal her most painful memory to him, which was being dumped on her birthday, he dumps her on her birthday that year.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:28 |
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The 'I obviously haven't been clear enough' stage of narcissistic meltdowns, where they've been living in their own bubble of self serving lies so long they think they just need to explain themselves properly to get everyone to shut up and worship them again, because they literally can't conceive of even having to lie anymore.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:49 |
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FightingMongoose posted:IIRC Xander loses an eye at one point? Nathan Fillion does it. He's the preacher-cult leader for the First One in Season 7, he just presses a thumb into Xander's eye until it pops.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 18:52 |
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Looking at Whedon selfimmolate again reminds me of how, 4 years ago, the patron saint of selfdestructive sadboi nerds somehow managed to go on his own podcast and properly apologize and address his harassment: (archived)PYF Apologies that did age well Dan Harmon posted:I was attracted to an employee. I really want to be really careful about that language because a huge part of the problem is a culture of feeling things that you think are unique and significant because they are happening to you and saying things like “I had feelings for” and “I fell for” and all these things. The most clinical way I can put it in ’fessing up to my crimes is that I was attracted to a writer that I had power over because I was a showrunner, and I knew enough to know that these feelings were bad news. That was easy enough to know. I knew that they ran the risk of undercutting people’s faith in my judgement, her faith in her talent, the other writers’ respect for me, the entire production, the audience. I knew that I wasn’t doing anybody any favors by feeling these things, and so I did the cowardly, easiest, laziest thing you could do with feelings like that, and I didn’t deal with them. And in not dealing with them, I made everybody else deal with them. Especially her. Paracaidas has a new favorite as of 21:36 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:Here’s the whole article, as a series of twitter images. The guy’s a monster: Jesus loving Christ.
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:Which tweet was it? I couldn't get past 'i write strong female characters because of my mom, but also maybe all my problems were from how she raised me' bs 1st pic in tweet 3. When he was 5 he invited a 4 year old kid to play in a pond where he drowned. He doesn’t feel responsible because he was 5 which is completely fair play but also you did not need to tell anyone who wasn’t your therapist this.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:1st pic in tweet 3. When he was 5 he invited a 4 year old kid to play in a pond where he drowned. He doesn’t feel responsible because he was 5 which is completely fair play but also you did not need to tell anyone who wasn’t your therapist this. Jfc "mommy didn't teach *me* to swim after I drowned a boy" is definitely not what the therapist intended him to take from that experience
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/LisaMichelleEu1/status/1482659837284544513?s=20 "Communism is all over the place" is such a silly phrase even if it wasn't trying to sound all portentous.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Here’s the whole article, as a series of twitter images. The guy’s a monster: Why not just link the article, this is the worst possible way to try and read something, lol
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Detective No. 27 posted:Reminder, sexual abuser Joss Whedon wasn't allowed to be alone in the room with teenage Michelle Trachtenberg. Joss Whedon has been accused of many things which are probably true. He cheated on his wife, he is verbally abusive, and is known for hounding actors/actresses he doesn't like with vindictive writing. But he hasn't been accused of sexual harassment or misconduct .
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 01:28 |
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uhhh yes he has
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sweet geek swag posted:Joss Whedon has been accused of many things which are probably true. He cheated on his wife, he is verbally abusive, and is known for hounding actors/actresses he doesn't like with vindictive writing. But he hasn't been accused of sexual harassment or misconduct . He pestered his employees for sex and tried to gently caress fans and people sent to interview him. I don’t know the precise criteria for misconduct in this context, but that’s 100% sexual harassment.
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moonmazed posted:uhhh yes he has Edit: apparently I did miss something. I wasn't aware that he had those accusations. They didn't come up when I googled it
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:Jfc "mommy didn't teach *me* to swim after I drowned a boy" is definitely not what the therapist intended him to take from that experience His therapist could have been a feminist also, telling him how it's his mothers fault for being 'weak' and not 'strong'.
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 01:50 |
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He couldn't be in a room alone with Michelle Trachtenberg.
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sweet geek swag posted:Edit: apparently I did miss something. I don't know what the context for "don't let this man be alone in the room with a female teen" means to you but to me that's 100% he is a serial sexual harasser and a danger to the safety of the female actors.
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 01:53 |
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He did sleazily proposition his subordinates. And women sent to interview him. Check out the part where he has a sexual relationship with a reporter that involves her role-playing one of the sex slaves from Dollhouse and him playing the owner of the sex slaves.
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pentyne posted:I don't know what the context for "don't let this man be alone in the room with a female teen" means to you but to me that's 100% he is a serial sexual harasser and a danger to the safety of the female actors. My context would be that I would not let my child work in a situation where they were working subordinate to a known sexual harrasser, so I assumed it had to be something else. If I had that situation and learned that he was screaming abuse at everyone on set I very well might say he couldn't be alone with my daughter. Michelle Trachtenberg's parents aren't that scrupulous it seems. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:Jfc "mommy didn't teach *me* to swim after I drowned a boy" is definitely not what the therapist intended him to take from that experience I read it as more "I hadn't even been taught to swim, why were we allowed to be at the pool without any adults around?" Which is actually a perfectly legitimate question, IMO.
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christmas boots posted:I read it as more "I hadn't even been taught to swim, why were we allowed to be at the pool without any adults around?" Yeah Whedon has plenty of stuff you can make fun of him for, this seems like it’s a big stretch
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Dr Christmas posted:"Communism is all over the place" is such a silly phrase even if it wasn't trying to sound all portentous. it's all over the walls, on the ceiling, under the tiles
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Improbable Lobster posted:it's all over the walls, on the ceiling, under the tiles the ending of the American Dad episode wherein the Smiths’ home becomes a bed and breakfast, but instead of poo poo Steve’s finding communism everywhere
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I AM GRANDO posted:He did sleazily proposition his subordinates. And women sent to interview him. Check out the part where he has a sexual relationship with a reporter that involves her role-playing one of the sex slaves from Dollhouse and him playing the owner of the sex slaves. that's not a roleplaying relationship. the text doesn't make it totally explicit unless you know what was up, but they were doing a BDSM thing that is basically irl Dollhouse.
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Arivia posted:that's not a roleplaying relationship. the text doesn't make it totally explicit unless you know what was up, but they were doing a BDSM thing that is basically irl Dollhouse. So? Who cares about kink poo poo? Harassing employees is the gross thing here.
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 02:25 |
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Well, people half his age sent to write feature stories about him. Still extremely unethical.
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sweet geek swag posted:Edit: apparently I did miss something. You should definitely actually read that linked article before trying to clear him of being a sexual abuser. Unless you are a victim yourself in which case definitely don't.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Well, people half his age sent to write feature stories about him. Still extremely unethical. That's unethical all around.
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sweet geek swag posted:Joss Whedon has been accused of many things which are probably true. He cheated on his wife, he is verbally abusive, and is known for hounding actors/actresses he doesn't like with vindictive writing. Things that also haven't aged well: my humorous anecdote about how Tim Minear had me killed for criticising Angel.
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