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Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
New Simpsons is genuinely unwatchable for me. I struggle to get through single jokes, it's unfathomable that people can manage to watch whole episodes. Youtube clip compilations are harrowing watches where I'll be enjoying myself and suddenly I get hit in the face with a bucket of ice water because they included a season 15+ joke and the difference is palpable.

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Come And See
Sep 15, 2008

We're all awash in a sea of blood, and the least we can do is wave to each other.


Vandar posted:

I honestly think this was the moment I realized the Simpsons was well and truly dead and there was no coming back for it. Just the most pandering type of thing that classic era Simpsons would have roasted the hell out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1bojs7UAKQ

Finding out they gave Sideshow Bob actual superpowers through genetic experimentation is probably up there too.

For me it was when a panda raped Homer. And then Marge raped Homer.

Seasons 9 to 13 grew worse and worse while still having key highlights, but Season 14 is when I began actively hating the show I once loved.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Season 14 at least ended with Behind The Laughter, so it could have ended on a high note that acknowledged it was done after thoroughly beating itself into the ground.

The current seasons are difficult to watch just for Marge's voice, every line sounds like torture for her.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNbCcyFkk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83V2OJ1o

Super Eyepatch Wolf does really great stoof and you may have seen these essays elsewhere online but it’s a great breakdown of what the Simpsons was, what is is, and why.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78gYyTrG7Y

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

yeah, that is really really on point. that final d'oh made me sad.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Bless Don Hertzfeldt, lol. As one of the YouTube comments says, I don't know how anyone would want to watch a current episode after that open.

I also got a kick out of the Rick & Morty open where they accidentally kill everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ecYoSvGO60

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Best Simpsons content of the modern era:

https://twitter.com/joechoui/status/1436030573559046149?t=0Z_WbRnvXYNYMwEppRUJiQ&s=19

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Simpsons fan content is better than the actual Simpsons.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Come And See posted:

For me it was when a panda raped Homer. And then Marge raped Homer.

I had honestly managed to forget those. :negative:

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Season 14 to me was even with those low points(did we really need 3 fetish bait episodes/segments for Marge in one season?) overall I feel it's the last season that manages to have more hits than misses, though the next few seasons still managed to have the occasional okay episode, from my recollection it was somewhere around Season 20 that I completely gave up on the show, that being the first season with a completely terrible Treehouse of Horror episode(that was around the time they got completely lazy with most segments just being straight "parodies" of Hollywood movies, often not having any real horror aspect to them at all) with that being the sign I needed that it wasn't worth it anymore

Though I remember my biggest frustrations with the show in the post Golden Age era was not the episodes that were just bad in general, it was the fact that their almost complete unwillingness to go against the Status Quo for the show resulted in a lot of episodes being a lot worse than they should have been, as they'd get dragged down by having to swerve the plot in the back half to return things back to normal(even worse when they'd do it within the last five minutes of the show), with the Season 15 episode "The President Wore Pearls" being one of the more aggravating examples from my recollection, as the whole episode ended up being completely pointless after having a promising start, it's probably why I get so annoyed by "Return To Status Quo" endings in shows these days cause it's just so blatant how little effort most shows put into doing them

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

While I still hold seasons 1-9 in high regard, there was one episode towards the end where i was legit angry with Homer and felt like the character was almost completely broken and unrecognizable. It was the marriage counseling one where he becomes obsessed with fishing and repeatedly lies to Marge and treats her like poo poo. I really hate that episode.

Edit: Wait, that was in season 2???? What the gently caress?!
Really felt more like the later Jerk-rear end Homer onset…

JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 16, 2022

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
This is coming to Amazon soon, and looks very ATLA/Voltron style. Contains swears. Also, Sir Bearington??!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvwxQSc-3os

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


That's actually an adaptation of the first campaign of Critical Role. The bear is the ranger's pet.

SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Jan 16, 2022

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Oh good maybe the animations will condense it and I can finally finish watching that campaign in some form. Trinket is a good bear.

Just don't have time for 6 hours a week worth of content from a single source.

pixaal fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Jan 16, 2022

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I searched and I'm not able to find anything conclusive but does anyone know what Helluva Boss' release schedule is like? Based on YouTube I'm guessing "roughly every couple of months", I just wasn't sure if there was anything more concrete.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Happy Landfill posted:

I searched and I'm not able to find anything conclusive but does anyone know what Helluva Boss' release schedule is like? Based on YouTube I'm guessing "roughly every couple of months", I just wasn't sure if there was anything more concrete.

Nope, no set schedule. It's a "when it's finished it's released" situation.

Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jan 17, 2022

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
That's makes sense. Thanks!

Simulation883
Jan 1, 2007
I stayed with Simpsons longer than most, watching sporadically once I hit college, but the episode that really changed my view on it was The Scorpion's Tale. Simpsons is usually somewhat grounded, with it's more magical bits being around gags and such, but this episode had peoples' eyes popping out as part of the main plot. I was so confused at first I thought it would all end up a dream sequence.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion%27s_Tale).

Otherwise, I really enjoyed this video of top 5/Worst 5 "modern" Simpsons eps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idynX4JK74

It makes a good point that modern Simpsons is doing it's best when it's trying something new or experimental, like the Lego episode or the one where Homer needs to remember his previous night. Honestly I think that's the way Simpsons should go, just try new and crazy poo poo. They're really too big to fail, and I'm sure some cool ideas would come out of it.

An idea that was introduced to me online that makes me worry: with the sliding timescale, Homer will soon get a story on how he was a teenager when I actually was.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!
Oney and other terrible hanger-ons aside, I hope that since Zach is using old bits and jokes in his show that this one gets worked in somehow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr6UAKupEhM

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I’m trying to remember all the cool animated films that Cartoon Network would show on weekends back in the late 90’s//Early 2000’s before Adult Swim and Toonami took over the after hours blocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn9xV6_yyG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1ldmMzmvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RBzlBWf2ww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcnQ7Dlk_Ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S26LA8Bk14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISmv0IGoQQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb-O6G1r6C8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRKMIrtjow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMORDgnxNs8

Some of these were pitched as family movies and shown prime time evenings on Friday or Saturday at 7, but I definitely remember being like 12 and seeing Watership down at 1 in the morning on a Sunday night. My understanding is that for a long time the rights to animated films were basically free which is why they could afford stuff produced by Disney or Miramax.

Btw if you haven’t seen all of these films, I’m pretty sure they all hold up. I can’t speak to any of their sequels, most of them direct to video release, but most of these are all-time classics, or at least worth a watch.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

An old VHS of Flight of Dragons and Watership Down was much-played in my formative years and I blame it for a lot.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

I just had a ‘nam flashback of that one scene from the Lorax that was utterly deranged. That or it was a grinch sequel somehow? Idk, but it’s nice to know the Lorax has karmically course corrected for that scarring by the endless depths of The depravity that is Tumblr.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Warbird posted:

I just had a ‘nam flashback of that one scene from the Lorax that was utterly deranged. That or it was a grinch sequel somehow? Idk, but it’s nice to know the Lorax has karmically course corrected for that scarring by the endless depths of The depravity that is Tumblr.

Well both the 1972 Lorax film and Halloween Is Grinch Night do lean in that direction so maybe give both a watch and figure out which is the one you're thinking of;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V06ZOQuo0k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygSEkwRCQPM

And while we're on the topic of Dr Seuss animated films that are surprisingly dark and/or twisted, here's the one for Cold War allegory The Butter Battle Book;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYQtyMcsf9c

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
You're thinking of this sequence from Halloween is Grinch Night.

https://youtu.be/KeFaBvL72a8

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Flight of Dragons goddamn owns.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

drrockso20 posted:

And while we're on the topic of Dr Seuss animated films that are surprisingly dark and/or twisted, here's the one for Cold War allegory The Butter Battle Book;


Produced by Ralph Bakshi! Apparently this was Seuss's all-time favorite adaptation of his work (the last one made during his lifetime, too).

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Simulation883 posted:

I stayed with Simpsons longer than most, watching sporadically once I hit college, but the episode that really changed my view on it was The Scorpion's Tale. Simpsons is usually somewhat grounded, with it's more magical bits being around gags and such, but this episode had peoples' eyes popping out as part of the main plot. I was so confused at first I thought it would all end up a dream sequence.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion%27s_Tale).

Otherwise, I really enjoyed this video of top 5/Worst 5 "modern" Simpsons eps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idynX4JK74

It makes a good point that modern Simpsons is doing it's best when it's trying something new or experimental, like the Lego episode or the one where Homer needs to remember his previous night. Honestly I think that's the way Simpsons should go, just try new and crazy poo poo. They're really too big to fail, and I'm sure some cool ideas would come out of it.

An idea that was introduced to me online that makes me worry: with the sliding timescale, Homer will soon get a story on how he was a teenager when I actually was.

This already happened to me, it feels real bad man.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

DoctorWhat posted:

You're thinking of this sequence from Halloween is Grinch Night.

https://youtu.be/KeFaBvL72a8

gently caress every bit of that.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Warbird posted:

gently caress every bit of that.

This but also it rules and I love it.

E:

Simulation883 posted:

Otherwise, I really enjoyed this video of top 5/Worst 5 "modern" Simpsons eps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idynX4JK74

Oh God they made a "Simpsons go to Israel" episode. *tugs collar nervously*

readingatwork fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jan 18, 2022

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Crain posted:

Oney and other terrible hanger-ons aside, I hope that since Zach is using old bits and jokes in his show that this one gets worked in somehow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr6UAKupEhM

yeah pretty much. alot of the jokes in the show are weird in jokes like that. also oney and i guess harry are the only truly crappy hangers on, the rest are fine from what i know of.


Simulation883 posted:

I stayed with Simpsons longer than most, watching sporadically once I hit college, but the episode that really changed my view on it was The Scorpion's Tale. Simpsons is usually somewhat grounded, with it's more magical bits being around gags and such, but this episode had peoples' eyes popping out as part of the main plot. I was so confused at first I thought it would all end up a dream sequence.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion%27s_Tale).

Otherwise, I really enjoyed this video of top 5/Worst 5 "modern" Simpsons eps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_idynX4JK74

It makes a good point that modern Simpsons is doing it's best when it's trying something new or experimental, like the Lego episode or the one where Homer needs to remember his previous night. Honestly I think that's the way Simpsons should go, just try new and crazy poo poo. They're really too big to fail, and I'm sure some cool ideas would come out of it.

An idea that was introduced to me online that makes me worry: with the sliding timescale, Homer will soon get a story on how he was a teenager when I actually was.

oh you missed the part with homer growing up in the 90s episode. its bad apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P8ykGJXoRE

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Going mad here at The Thief & the Cobbler sinking to the level of just another weird 80s/90s animated movie that kindasorta holds up

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Data Graham posted:

Going mad here at The Thief & the Cobbler sinking to the level of just another weird 80s/90s animated movie that kindasorta holds up

there is one i vaguely remember a weird movie from then being shown on cartoon network.. one of the characters looked like charlie chaplain and their was like living smoke or something. i just remember the cartoon network trailers.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAxpVlVGMgY

?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
YES!!! I knew I was missing a couple, thank you!

Data Graham posted:

Going mad here at The Thief & the Cobbler sinking to the level of just another weird 80s/90s animated movie that kindasorta holds up

Right? I was really shocked to learn that movie wasn’t made until 1995, it really has some of the same spooky/manic energy that the other ones from the 70’s and 80’s have.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Bust Rodd posted:

Right? I was really shocked to learn that movie wasn’t made until 1995, it really has some of the same spooky/manic energy that the other ones from the 70’s and 80’s have.

I mean if you don't know the whole story behind it it's a wild read.

It's the lifelong obsession project of Richard Williams (the guy who animated Roger Rabbit, including all those roller coaster scenes on ones by hand which there are a lot of in TTATC too) who spent three decades animating these ridiculously complicated stylized and mechanical scenes frame by frame by frame, night after night, with no aid of computers. Then Disney stole his idea and characters (and animators) to make Aladdin, and WB finally got sick of waiting for Williams to finish it and gave it to Bluth and some other rando contract studios to turn it into a Disney-style musical and add a bunch of badly animated songs and a weird inner-monologue voiceover on the thief while they chopped out tons of the insanely intricate animation Williams had spend his whole career making.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Ok that explains why when I was hunting for this movie down I started finding test stills and animations starting in the 70’s! That is totally insane!

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

holy poo poo thats it. thanks.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Vandar posted:

Flight of Dragons goddamn owns.

It's from that time when Rankin Bass was making really cool animated films, like the Hobbit and the Last Unicorn.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

I Am Fowl posted:

It's from that time when Rankin Bass was making really cool animated films, like the Hobbit and the Last Unicorn.

Two films that AFAICT were NEVER shown on Cartoon Network despite being absolutely PERFECT for it!! I really wonder why they could score Flight of Dragons but not these!

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