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Godzilla07 posted:Everything I've heard about the ID4 is that it's a massive pile of poo poo, in addition to being a dodgy long-term ownership proposition given that it's a first-generation Volkswagen EV What have you heard exactly? As I understand it, it's a bit boring and journos don't like the steering wheel buttons. But that's not exactly a massive pile of poo poo.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:eh on the other hand who do you think is really making a guaranteed reliable EV right now? you couldn't make me touch first year Ford product with your dick. You could argue GM or the Koreans have experience, but they have had pretty serious recalls... or maybe the Leaf, the OG? but that's kind of poo poo, and Tesla is what it is. knox_harrington posted:What have you heard exactly? As I understand it, it's a bit boring and journos don't like the steering wheel buttons. But that's not exactly a massive pile of poo poo. The savagegeese boys decided to kill their ID.4 video so as to not jeopardize their relationship with VW. Jason Cammisa, noted Volkswagen apologist, had this to say about the ID4: quote:Verdict VW id4: Ferdinand Piëch is spinning in his grave. This video is timestamped to where Matt Farah and Cammisa discuss Cammisa's ID4 review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fneTybECLP4
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Can they use vws electrify america charging network yet or is Ford still the only mfgr that makes cars for it lmao
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:yes, my hot take is why? everything else at that price point is more compelling unless you most have a toyota My only thought is that it's normal compact crossover SUV but electric but this is a good point... And the more reading I do more hesitant I am now buying an EV vehicle but I can't justify spending $45k+ on a Model 3.
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It's incredible to me that all the EVs under like 70k still kinda suck. The Tesla and Polestar seem to be the only decent ones and both options have major problems. It looks like I'll be holding on to my 328 for as long as possible.
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Godzilla07 posted:Jason Cammisa, noted Volkswagen apologist, had this to say about the ID4: KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:It's incredible to me that all the EVs under like 70k still kinda suck. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jan 15, 2022 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:It's incredible to me that all the EVs under like 70k still kinda suck. The Tesla and Polestar seem to be the only decent ones and both options have major problems. It looks like I'll be holding on to my 328 for as long as possible. What? The Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV6, and Ford Mustang Mach-E are all getting really good reviews. More than half of the top 10 cars ArsTechnica reviewed this year were electric. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/12/ars-technicas-top-10-cars-trucks-and-suvs-of-2021/
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:It's incredible to me that all the EVs under like 70k still kinda suck. The Tesla and Polestar seem to be the only decent ones and both options have major problems. It looks like I'll be holding on to my 328 for as long as possible. Buy one last cool ICE DD and get a e-bike for short trips to reduce wear and tear on your car, and minimize your carbon footprint until EVs become more mature products
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I'm seriously liking the Kia EV6 but availability is an issue...
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I'm seriously liking the Kia EV6 but availability is an issue... It hasn’t even fully launched yet so uhh yeah availability would be a problem
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Hi, would appreciate advice thanks in advance. Proposed Budget: Ideally less than $30000 New or Used: New Body Style: 4-door, don't care too much about body style beyond that it's appropriate for intended use How will you be using the car?: Driving 4 person family around with some reasonable amount of carrying space. This is in the northeast so snow in winter is a factor but it's not excessive. Something that could be used to drive between NYC and Buffalo occasionally without difficulty What aspects are most important to you? Reliability and low maintenance are most important by far. Need something that will just work and be straightforward to get maintained or repaired when required. Had a nice used Honda Fit in the past but that's probably too small for 4 people plus some luggage when necessary. Found the Honda reliable but wondering if they're still living up to their reputation for dependability or if there's a better option these days. The Honda Civic looks fine but is there any major advantage to the CR-V (or equivalents from other manufacturers)?
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Jan 16, 2022 23:10
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Crossover segment gets you a hatchback with higher sitting for ease of entry, loading, and vague and minor visibility benefits. Its a tall compact. CUV gets all that in a midsize format so its a tall hatchback midsize. Purchasing habits are going strong toward these segments so repairs and spare parts abound for cars that are already bulletproof to 150kmi, not that fleets aren't keeping compacts and midsize in a similar place anyway so there's no real reliability or life differences. Your budget includes well equipped crossovers and lower range CUVs in addition to easily affording a compact like a Civic or Prius or getting a lower-mid range midsize like an Accord or Camry. Crossover is a super popular style right now as its cheap and gets that high riding everybody likes but I find them compromised verse just settling for a Prius. The CHR and HRV are fine I guess. CUVs are compromised but midsize is about when things like ease of loading take over other considerations and they are the segment that probably gets the most enthusiastic recommendations when someone finally comes to the thread wanting more than a Prius. You'll find one such conversation just before, tldr that the CRV, Rav 4 and Mazda CX5 are all great cars.
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Motronic posted:If you've never run a subcompact tractor before be real careful about this. Those things are basically just toys. Unsafe ones at that. The don't weigh enough to do any real work safely, certainly not with a loader. And the loader reach is just awful. Touching back on this - what would you recommend in its place for a similar (or at least not way far away) sort of budget? I'm not even sure exactly what our primary needs will be other than occasionally removing some amount of snow from our ~600-700 foot gravel driveway, and whatever other stuff needs to be done on a ~8 acre property that has at least several acres of woods and some wide paths through that which we want to keep clean-ish and usable, plus some amount of lawn and assorted brush/etc. We do have the zero turn mower but we may sell it if we get something more versatile. Several people that I've talked to have recommended we get something along the lines of a Kubota BX to just do whatever stuff ends up needing doing. I can't personally think of anything major where I'd really be concerned about having a big front loader payload, but I also don't know what I don't know. If this is the wrong thread, sorry - maybe the landscaping one? I dunno.
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shortspecialbus posted:Touching back on this - what would you recommend in its place for a similar (or at least not way far away) sort of budget? I'm not even sure exactly what our primary needs will be other than occasionally removing some amount of snow from our ~600-700 foot gravel driveway, and whatever other stuff needs to be done on a ~8 acre property that has at least several acres of woods and some wide paths through that which we want to keep clean-ish and usable, plus some amount of lawn and assorted brush/etc. We do have the zero turn mower but we may sell it if we get something more versatile. If budget it your issue buy a used B2610 or B2650. Those are big enough to do actual work and with 8 acres you can certainly fit a compact tractor. Just lol at trying to plow a 600 foot driveway with a subcompact and try to do any sort of tree/cleanup work with a grapple on something that small. FYI, whatever you buy you want a "third function valve" on it. Because you will likely want a power angle plow and grapple and you will need those hydraulics to operate them. It's something that can be added later, but if you can find something with that already you should consider it. Also, you should actually find someone with tractors that you can run to see and learn what you need and want. And if you're even willing to do that work of if you're just going to end up hiring it out in the end.
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For comparison if you're buying new - the price difference between a BX and a B is surprisingly small, I think right about $1k between the BX2680 I was originally looking at and the B2301 I ended up buying. Yes, "down 3hp" but I honestly don't see the benefit of the extra power. "Lugging the engine" is something I've only had happen when operating in very specific scenarios at part throttle - normally I lose traction or the hydraulics go into bypass anyway. And likewise on new - the LX is just the B50 tractors with a more sensible name than having two different "B" frames.
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Thank you, this is helpful information. Edit: Price isn't exactly an issue if it's what's required, I can do it. The problem is this is really new territory for me, we had no need of this on our previous property. While snow removal is definitely a thing I need to address, it's not like it needs to be addressed all that often in SW Virginia - probably a handful of times a winter on average. At the moment, neighbors are taking care of it for us, but that's not a long term solution. Looking at the B series and speccing them out to take a look-see, the problem is really that I have no idea what I'm doing. I was planning on just going to the nearest dealership and talking to them, so that's probably the next step to try to figure this stuff out. ssb fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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Considering you'll probably be talking to that dealer again in the future for parts and service, yes. Aside from the fact that two of my implements are still in supply-chain hell, buying from the dealership here was quite pleasant compared to any car I've ever bought from a dealer. Probably helps that by and large these things go for $MSRP minus any offers that Kubota is sticking on them.
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Nocturtle posted:Hi, would appreciate advice thanks in advance. Toyota Prius is the default recommendation and I think it applies in your case as well. With snow tyres perfectly capable enough for normal snow and winter conditions.
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Inner Light posted:FWIW I have a decent amount of experience with Audi (have owned one for several years and driven several service loaners) and I would recommend them. I do not think the internet wisdom about reliability is much more of an issue than any mainsream brand when you talk 2017+ MY. What is true is that when you will need service, the parts/labor will be ~25-50% more, but if the gods smile upon you it won't be much more often than if you bought a Camry. I'm used to expensive parts and labor - I drove BMWs for quite awhile and loved them. Did most of the routine maintenance on them myself, though I don't know if I'd want to do that on a newer car. How annoying are they when it comes to simple maintenance? A friend has a newer BMW and after he replaced the battery he had to take it to the dealership so they could 'program' the battery to his car. Apparently it's a thing. Are Audis similarly annoying or are they more reasonable when it comes to stuff like that? I know a lot of modern cars are going in that direction so I guess I wouldn't be surprised if VAG was leading the charge.
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I have never owned a car before, but I'm getting tired of renting / mooching off of friends. Proposed Budget: $12,000 New or Used: Used Body Style: 4-door How will you be using the car? Weekend trips to the mountains in all seasons (Boston -> New Hampshire / Vermont / Maine). I bicycle commute when I'm at home so it's definitely not going to be a daily-use car. Will likely be using it to transport a lot of bikes and kayaks or canoes. What aspects are most important to you? Don't need any fancy features, but having decent ground clearance to get down unpaved roads and reasonable handling in snowy conditions are definitely a priority. I'll definitely get winter tires. I've seen some used Foresters that seem appealing just based on the northeastern flannel-clad lesbian stereotype, but I'd appreciate any other suggestions. Bubbacub fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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Bubbacub posted:I have never owned a car before, but I'm getting tired of renting / mooching off of friends. Hmm, how do you feel about boxy and utilitarian? You could probably get a Honda Element for that kind of money. Those things were built for being stuffed full of muddy bikes, canoes and kayaks. I'm pretty sure you can hose out the inside. https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ctd/d/wakefield-2011-honda-element-ex-awd-4dr/7431933954.html
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I love the Element for the use case but holy loving poo poo @ paying twelve thousand American dollars for a tarted up CR-V with 190k miles on it. then i looked at what a 2011 CR-V costs these days and jesus christ man my honest no bullshit advice is to keep renting a car and mooching off your friends. it sounds like you don't NEED a car and if that's the case now ain't the time to buy. Although some leading indicators are showing that the used car market is cooling off a bit - if that does happen, pretty much any CUV or the Outback will be just fine for your needs. You are in  so beware of rust and very worn suspension items.also: have you considered a small truck?
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Small truck is the correct choice for a use case where you want to wake up Saturday morning and throw some bikes and kayaks in the back of something and just go. But even in the normal market $12k of truck is probably a little intense for a my-first-car experience.
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As somebody who just bought a pickup in Vermont I’d agree it’s a non starter under 20 or even 25k. Shits out of control. I wouldn’t recommend it for long gas mileage trips anyways unless you have serious need of the bed. I’m out here paying $65 a fillup. There’s basically no need for the extra clearance over say a forester if you’re only talking about the roads to the resorts etc. most unpaved roads are still maintained to the point snow tire fwd cars can handle them. I have extra clearance because I sometimes leave the road entirely for work. But normal roads I’ve gotten around in both a crv and forester just fine. Snow tires a must, I think you’re on the right track with Subaru as long as you’re willing to pay the rust tax. A crv would be fine too. If you’re stuck at 12k it might be easier to find a forester. If you’re just going to common ski places then honestly snow tires and fwd might be just fine and better for a 12k budget, I would think on that. I think my top rec for you would be to bite the bullet and get a decent crv, rav4 something like that which you can put boat rack on and a bike inside (or out).
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I vote you get this: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3147177368885942/
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zedprime posted:Crossover segment gets you a hatchback with higher sitting for ease of entry, loading, and vague and minor visibility benefits. Its a tall compact. bad_fmr posted:Toyota Prius is the default recommendation and I think it applies in your case as well. With snow tyres perfectly capable enough for normal snow and winter conditions. Thanks very much for the replies, they're super helpful. Didn't really consider the Prius as an option, my likely incorrect understanding was that the additional complexity of the design would make it less robust and more difficult to repair. Will definitely look into them if they're a reliable choice.
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Mustache Ride posted:I vote you get this: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3147177368885942/ I wish these were loving legal in Austin! Kei Trucks are absolutely perfect for my needs (carrying random stuff out to the lake/woods/trails and commuting), but last I checked they're completely illegal to drive on roads, regardless of speed limit.
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Nocturtle posted:Thanks very much for the replies, they're super helpful. its the most reliable car devised by man to date
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Corla Plankun posted:I wish these were loving legal in Austin! Kei Trucks are absolutely perfect for my needs (carrying random stuff out to the lake/woods/trails and commuting), but last I checked they're completely illegal to drive on roads, regardless of speed limit. driving a kei truck on regular roads is a phenomenal way to die in a car accident. it is good that it is illegal for you to drive them on roads.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:driving a kei truck on regular roads is a phenomenal way to die in a car accident. it is good that it is illegal for you to drive them on roads. Yeah but I can go out and ride a Hayabusa wearing a tshirt, cargo shorts and flip flops and leave a trail of skin and blood half a mile long  Edit: Does Texas have some kind of restriction in addition to the 25 year rule? I would assume you can import anything you want as long as it was made before 1997. KillHour fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:its the most reliable car devised by man to date Haha well now I'm glad I asked! A real sign of how sophisticated a buyer I am.
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Nocturtle posted:Haha well now I'm glad I asked! A real sign of how sophisticated a buyer I am. Look at it this way: they're replacing the bulk of the taxi fleet in the US and elsewhere. This indicates they are dead reliable as well as cheap to repair. There are a ton of good quality aftermarket parts, including for things like the battery, which can be repaired or rebuilt quite cheaply compared to almost any other hybrid pack just due to the number of aftermarket vendors available for parts and labor.
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Nocturtle posted:Haha well now I'm glad I asked! A real sign of how sophisticated a buyer I am. nah it's all good, it intuitively makes sense that all of the complexity of ICE + high voltage EV bits would be less reliable because it's more systems and more failure modes, but Toyota spent a ton of time effort and money making sure the car is reliable and doing some very clever things from an engineering standpoint.
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For what it's worth, I ended up buying a Kubota B2601 with a front loader and a rear plow. Should get the job done and then some. Thanks for all the help with that! Still sorting out a truck, what a stupid mess.
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shortspecialbus posted:For what it's worth, I ended up buying a Kubota B2601 with a front loader and a rear plow. Should get the job done and then some. Thanks for all the help with that! Nice, you've joined the Kubota crew. Mine is a 2650HSDC and I use a front power angle plow and a box blade on the back for show duties.  You're probably gonna want to throw some LEDs on your ROPS bar. Also, KTAC insurance is cheap as poo poo and your homeowners policy won't cover that thing off of your property (or for all of the stupid poo poo they will cover you for) so it's good to get. Call them up with your tractor model/serial and the loader model/serial to get a quote.
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Motronic posted:Nice, you've joined the Kubota crew. Got KTAC because I decided 0% 60 month financing was worth skipping the mostly-negligible cash discount, and that was required. Already ordered a ROPS 3-LED thingy.
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shortspecialbus posted:Got KTAC because I decided 0% 60 month financing was worth skipping the mostly-negligible cash discount, and that was required. You done good.
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Motronic posted:You done good. There's a reason I asked for a lot of advice in here on this one. This was one of those things where I had vague ideas and had done some research but didn't really know what I didn't know. I had a solid idea of things going in as a result. Thanks, thread! I'm glad our dead gay forum didn't die completely last year.
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Bubbacub posted:I have never owned a car before, but I'm getting tired of renting / mooching off of friends. Definitely sounds like a Subaru. Maybe even a Baja?  Or the new Maverick, it's more expensive of course but might be better than paying $12k for some overpriced rusted shitheap.
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ethanol posted:Snow tires a must, I think you’re on the right track with Subaru as long as you’re willing to pay the rust tax. A crv would be fine too. If you’re stuck at 12k it might be easier to find a forester. If you’re just going to common ski places then honestly snow tires and fwd might be just fine and better for a 12k budget, I would think on that. Ok, thanks all! The Element looks too huge and overpriced for what I'd need (not sure if it would even fit in my garage!) and I don't need a pickup bed. I'll keep an eye out for reasonable deals on Foresters and CRVs, but this is a luxury item that I don't need urgently, so I don't mind waiting for prices to settle out a bit.
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