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I think it's all part of the shift where teams want to control their own news. They don't want things to come out via beat reporters, they want it to come out through them or company employees like Rapsheet. Mainly because they can control the messaging.
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kiimo posted:Maybe it's just me but if you are in the AFCW with Herbert and Mahomes the answer is not hiring a defensive guy to be your head coach, I would think the answer is getting someone that will let you compete offensively first and foremost and then having a DC take care of that side of the ball. On the other hand, one of the things that surprised me about the coordinator hire list someone posted earlier was that OCs becoming coaches have really not been any more successful than DCs. I would've thought there would at least be some difference, improving the offense is surely the easiest way to become a better team fast, but they looked about the same in terms of successes and failures.
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SKULL.GIF posted:You can't hire me!
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Dodds did the same thing with the Carolina GM job last year, I believe. He's made it clear he only wants to leave if he really thinks it's the right opportunity (similar to Ballard before he was hired here). I'm guessing his conversations with ownership didn't instill him with much confidence. Eberflus, though, has made it very clear he wants to be a head coach somewhere and will absolutely bolt for the first opportunity.
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Giants also putting in a request for Quinn. https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1483921972086071300
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Best coach of the carousel https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1483932471892840455
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Best coach of the carousel tfw when you rip on the hash pen before a press conference and it comes out a lot thicker than you expected https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w81SFCMmQ9E
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This hire would be finequote:The Panthers interviewed Colts RBs coach Scottie Montgomery for their offensive-coordinator vacancy Wednesday.
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FizFashizzle posted:This hire would be fine You can at least look at his resume see that the units he’s been in charge of have been good, which is a step up from most of the other names on the list. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:You can at least look at his resume see that the units he’s been in charge of have been good, which isn’t a step up from most of the other names on the list. No I'm serious. I like it. Maybe he's some diamond in the rough. Maybe he gets a chance to take over after Rhule is poo poo canned heading into the bye week. Maybe he just runs the ball 40 times a game and literally makes the games end more quickly.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Giants also putting in a request for Quinn. I could just be missing something by being an Atlanta fan, but what's the appeal of Quinn? I mean, 28-3 was the high point of this man's life. He not only blew it in a few minutes, but then aggressively sucked until he was fired. Why do so many people even consider putting him in change of an NFL a good idea? Besides NFL owners being complete idiots.
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FizFashizzle posted:No I'm serious. I like it. I was agreeing with you, I meant to say he IS a step up from the other names on the list. He might not be good but he at least has a chance to be based on who he’s coached, unlike a bunch of the other guys getting interviewed.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:I could just be missing something by being an Atlanta fan, but what's the appeal of Quinn? I mean, 28-3 was the high point of this man's life. He not only blew it in a few minutes, but then aggressively sucked until he was fired. Overall he has a winning record as a head coach(43-42). He was the playcaller for some of the best Seattle defenses last decade and he's clearly done a lot of growing and learning as a defensive coach since then. He's a fairly competent guy who made the Super Bowl his first go around as a head coach so he's definitely in line for another chance.
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quinn took a cratering team and built them back up to the SB, then they stalled out pretty bad. after he left they became severe dogshit. i can't imagine any of his other coaching experience beyond those shallow optics is all that relevant to being a GM candidate. no one is trying to hire him to coach
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Cavauro posted:i can't imagine any of his other coaching experience beyond those shallow optics is all that relevant to being a GM candidate. no one is trying to hire him to coach  he's interviewing for coaching jobs, though?
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DariusLikewise posted:Overall he has a winning record as a head coach(43-42). He was the playcaller for some of the best Seattle defenses last decade and he's clearly done a lot of growing and learning as a defensive coach since then. He's a fairly competent guy who made the Super Bowl his first go around as a head coach so he's definitely in line for another chance. I think the main issue is that Atlantas defenses were never particular good under him so it’s a case where he’s good when he can focus on being the DC but once you make him the head coach he gets worse at the think he’s ostensibly good at and he’s not that good at the other head coach stuff either. Once Shanahan left Atlanta things went pretty rapidly downhill.
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I wonder how much of the Quinn buzz is due to his personality/talking points/etc. Arthur Blank seemed to eat the whole "In Brotherhood" thing with a spoon...maybe other owners find it appealing. The Giants ownership comes to mind.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:
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This seems like is more likely than not. https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1483958763350491136
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Diva Cupcake posted:This seems like is more likely than not. Source is named Him Jarbaugh
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It’s so Miami Dolphins that our owner is more loyal to a school than his own nfl team
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I don't really get the school loyalty, either. I don't understand people who cling to their college like it's the whole identity. It's just a loving school. Maybe it's because I've never really had my school do anything for me except put me in debt. Their career offices were useless for helping me get a job.
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You just don’t understand a Michigan Man.
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Ross' name is literally on the most prestigious school within U of Michigan so he's kind of a diehard.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I think the main issue is that Atlantas defenses were never particular good under him so it’s a case where he’s good when he can focus on being the DC but once you make him the head coach he gets worse at the think he’s ostensibly good at and he’s not that good at the other head coach stuff either. Once Shanahan left Atlanta things went pretty rapidly downhill. some of that is Parsons, some of that is variance with turnovers, but some of it is probably Quinn too
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Ross is not willing to take Harbaugh from Michigan but he will sit back and let another NFL team take him? Makes perfect sense!
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I think the main issue is that Atlantas defenses were never particular good under him so it’s a case where he’s good when he can focus on being the DC but once you make him the head coach he gets worse at the think he’s ostensibly good at and he’s not that good at the other head coach stuff either. Once Shanahan left Atlanta things went pretty rapidly downhill. I think a lot of that was personnel though, Atlanta did not draft very well while Quinn was there. I guess it's up to teams to decide how much of that was Quinn and how much of that was Dimitroff.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Ross is not willing to take Harbaugh from Michigan but he will sit back and let another NFL team take him? Makes perfect sense! prediction: he doesn't want to ask since he doesn't want to be embarrassed if Harbaugh says no and goes to another team.
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I really could do with some regular season Harbowls in the NFL
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DariusLikewise posted:I think a lot of that was personnel though, Atlanta did not draft very well while Quinn was there. I guess it's up to teams to decide how much of that was Quinn and how much of that was Dimitroff. Quinn had a lot of influence over the defensive side of the drafts at least.
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I don't see the appeal of Quinn either. There are coaches who have succeeded after a change of scenery, like Andy Reid or Tony Dungy. But everything after the 2016 season was a long, gradual decline for the Falcons, and he finished going three losing seasons in a row. What is there that could make anyone think he still had something left in the tank?
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I think it's totally fine to hire Dan Quinn as your HC, with an emphasis on fine. I just don't get why he's a HOT name.
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Professor Funk posted:I just don't get why he's a HOT name.
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Diva Cupcake posted:This seems like is more likely than not. I feel like if this is true then he is going to be the Raiders new head coach. And I'm fine with that
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I think the main issue is that Atlantas defenses were never particular good under him so it’s a case where he’s good when he can focus on being the DC but once you make him the head coach he gets worse at the think he’s ostensibly good at and he’s not that good at the other head coach stuff either. Once Shanahan left Atlanta things went pretty rapidly downhill. yea i feel like Quinn was carried by Shanahan and Matt Ryan.
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I think dan quinn is a good motivator, at least for a little while. He'll come in, yell some platitudes and get navy seals to do some silly trainings. The team will buy in, be energized, and play better. Problem is that's he's all style with no real substance. The cheerleading loses its effect after a while because he doesn't have any real ideas for how to make things better besides that burst of energy that he can inject.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I don't really get the school loyalty, either. I don't understand people who cling to their college like it's the whole identity. It's just a loving school. I feel this way about most walks of life. National pride, college pride, even sports fandom is a way for people to feel like they are a part of something bigger, despite having never contributed to what might make it great. It just feels like something people cling to to add meaning to their life, without actually making their lives more meaningful. It's baffling.
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Michigan people in particular are so extra about it. I've got like eight or nine Michigan grads in my extended family and there isn't a single one of them who has anything less than a slavering amount of enthusiasm for the school. I liked my college, I enjoyed my time there I don't really have anything negative to say about it, but the people who make it a significant part of their identity always struck me as weird. That's not even getting into the fact that the majority of Michigan people you meet will act like it's the single greatest place to live in the world despite the fact that four or five months out of the year you'll die of exposure if you get locked out of your house.
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