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killer_robot posted:Where are you getting this number? That's the 7-day average. They hide the daily number down the page. Scroll down about 2/3 the way to "New Reported Deaths by Day where they list today (as of this post) 3,904.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:9/11 every day is loving insane again. Couple of my guys are completely out of breath The entire day at work after having covid for a week and a half. It's nuts however good things from the UK in terms of cases going back down it would seem. I say seem as it probably will just never stop in the US because of constant reinfections The UK is also way more vaccinated than the US. It makes a big difference.
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Boosters are helping in the UK as well, particuarly with the higher risk groups targeting. The growth has slow down though, so will be interesting to see where it levels out to. And no, saying that Omicron is milder than Delta isn't causing American's to die in record numbers, I think you'll find it's the disease and vaccine misinformation which is doing that.
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Weasling Weasel posted:Boosters are helping in the UK as well, particuarly with the higher risk groups targeting. The growth has slow down though, so will be interesting to see where it levels out to. I sure that the concerted propaganda designed to get everyone comfortable ditching personal precautions and climbing back under the wheels of capitalism has nothing to do with transmissions, lol.
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Stickman posted:I sure that the concerted propaganda designed to get everyone comfortable ditching personal precautions and climbing back under the wheels of capitalism has nothing to do with transmissions, lol. so yes, but OP is looking at the wrong set of mouths.
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smoobles posted:Wow, 3500 deaths today in the USA. loving insane, and right on schedule. E: also the "with covid not of covid" defense once the hospitals filled up again right on schedule VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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Ontario's deaths are spiking pretty heavily (starting to approach the worst of the Alpha and OG waves), so the spin machine is in full tilt. Turns out the deaths are all "catch-up" every time the number gets high, oh and it turns out people are dying WITH covid, not FROM covid. Also our CMOH has been speculating that the exponential rise in deaths is mostly Delta, despite Delta cases flatlining / shrinking, and the exponential growth timed precisely to when you'd expect Omicron deaths. https://twitter.com/RichardCityNews/status/1484162255910588417 In unrelated news, Ontario is aiming to drop all restrictions by March.
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Stickman posted:concerted propaganda designed to get everyone comfortable ditching personal precautions and climbing back under the wheels of capitalism What is this referring to and why does it have as large an effect as people being unvaccinated by choice? edit: also where does it appear in e.g. mobility data? James Garfield fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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rko posted:If it’s our stupid political system, why am I not hearing about it all of the time from the administration? Why is the message not one of constant fury directed at whomever is preventing the basic pandemic prevention techniques our peer nations are doing, instead of being told over and over again that we should voluntarily mask and vaccinate ourselves on our way to getting back to work? Joe Biden owes his position and power to that political system, he'd be a nobody in a system that was designed to promote the welfare of the people He became VP, which finally got him the name recognition to win his fiftieth primary, because Obama needed to reassure Wall Street and white racists that it was going to be business as usual
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VitalSigns posted:Having to sit through the "oh [latest wave] isn't killing anybody" narrative during the usual lag between cases and deaths for a fourth time was incredible What scares me the most is that the Bad Covid Talking Points are now bipartisan instead of right wing. I started feeling this way back in April/May when it started becoming clear that vaccinated liberals were okay with mass death so long as it was among the unvaccinated. Now it's open call for eugenics for the sake of return to normalcy (dine-in restaurants) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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smoobles posted:What scares me the most is that the Bad Covid Talking Points are now bipartisan instead of right wing. I started feeling this way back in April/May when it started becoming clear that vaccinated liberals were okay with mass death so long as it was among the unvaccinated. Now it's open call for eugenics for the sake of return to normalcy (dine-in restaurants)
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smoobles posted:What scares me the most is that the Bad Covid Talking Points are now bipartisan instead of right wing. I started feeling this way back in April/May when it started becoming clear that vaccinated liberals were okay with mass death so long as it was among the unvaccinated. Now it's open call for eugenics for the sake of return to normalcy (dine-in restaurants) Yeah I felt bad things were coming when the governor of New York turned on some May 2020 Sean Hannity episodes and was like "wow this guy is making some great points about how hospitals are totally overcounting cases and we should be ignoring some cases for accuracy" Gio posted:It was a pretty impressive about-face. Liberals went from double-masking to Masks Off May in the span of, what—3 weeks? 4, maybe? Kinda just back where they were in February 2020, remember before reinventing himself as the covid warrior, Cuomo was encouraging New Yorkers to pack the bars and clubs even as the disaster was unfolding in Italy. I wonder how many more Americans would have died under a Democratic administration where they wouldn't have had the incentive to distinguish themselves from Trump
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Reverend Dr posted:That's the 7-day average. They hide the daily number down the page. Scroll down about 2/3 the way to "New Reported Deaths by Day where they list today (as of this post) 3,904. The 7-day average is used because numbers are not reported every day. That's why the visible data points always stick out so far above the trend line. 2,000 is probably a more appropriate number to use, because the 3,904 represents more than one day's worth of deaths.
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Stickman posted:(like the recent cdc study with a tiny, tiny sample size and inadequate controls) Can you elaborate on this? I don’t agree that the number of deaths is too small to support the conclusion that the majority of deaths are among people with more risk factors; this seems like it would be the null hypothesis going in based on prior understanding of mortality risk and it also matches up with the in-study finding of increased risk of non-fatal severe outcomes with a larger sample size (around 150 iirc), so the small sample size isn’t ideal but also not a critical flaw that makes the study worthless. I’m curious about your comment on inadequate controls, though. For the sake of discussion I’m not really interested in whether Walensky used the study appropriately or not, just trying to discuss the quality of the research itself.
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smoobles posted:I started feeling this way back in April/May when it started becoming clear that vaccinated liberals were okay with mass death so long as it was among the unvaccinated. Now, mind you, NPIs and limiting spread was still very important to protect those ineligible--particularly children--so I agree that the premature lifting of them in 2021 was a bad call even at the time, and doubly so in hindsight. Still, I don't blame people for not having tons of empathy for a population that refuses to care for themselves.
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VitalSigns posted:Having to sit through the "oh [latest wave] isn't killing anybody" narrative during the usual lag between cases and deaths for a fourth time was incredible Mind you, maybe it's because I work in a hospital means that I may be biased, or that I get daily and weekly newsletters from my hospital on the current covid deaths and rates. But hey tell me I'm blowing stuff off more, that my experiences and observations are just liberal talking points to blow off how covid works. Makes me feel great and appreciated that the internet warriors know so much about things 🙂
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And sidenote, Delta did exactly what it did last year, as things went indoors and people started congregating inside it went up, but hey it means nothing because omicron! The icus are actively filled with tons of unvaccinated and predominantly all Delta, the hospital systems have all said that unvaccinated are the primary drive in patients with omicron in vaccinated patients not nearly as severe of an illness as Delta or wildtype. But hey the gently caress do I know, I don't spend 50 hours a day reading Twitter and looking for ways to blame liberals. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Genuine question - how would you tell that the new admissions are Delta? I'm not totally unwilling to accept that a slew of ICU admissions that nearly precisely tracks the Omicron wave but delayed by 4-5 weeks is Delta, but it would need to be some pretty extraordinary evidence IMO.
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Denmark - 20 January 2022 Another massive wodge of cases on the 18th as they sort them by test date. Again a new record for hospital beds in use, and another drop in ICU and ventilator use. Not much else to say, except the "partial" cases are lower today from the last 2 days, so ... maybe the new cases will drop too, but it's quite likely just an artefact. The under-20s continue to dominate cases, with the 6-11s being like 1/3 the total. So it went from the dual spikes over the holidays to just grinding through school kids, and I expect university students now too. Plus side is the level of vaccination in over-12s plus the apparent lower impact on under-12s means the medical system here is not apparently collapsing. So far DK has had 1.23M cases with 46K reinfections. Thats' maybe 22% of the population with official COVID.... so at 250,000 cases a week we'll be done a once-through with omicron at some point. Daily "Last 7 days cases" split into three age brackets: pre:20 Jan 19 Jan 18 Jan 17 Jan 15 Jan 14 Jan 13 Jan 12 Jan 11 Jan 10 Jan 07 Jan 0-19 years 43.7% 43.3% 42.2% 40.9% 37.7% 36.5% 35.6% 34.2% 31.8% 30.1% 27% 20-39 years 28.6% 29.2% 30.0% 31.0% 32.9% 33.8% 34.7% 36.1% 38.2% 39.1% 40% 40+ years 27.6% 27.5% 27.8% 28.1% 29.4% 29.8% 29.7% 29.6% 30.0% 30.7% 33% pre:Actual Reported New Total Date Cases Cases Reinf. Hosp. Hosp. ICU Vent Dead ============================================================================================== Jan 20 --- 40,626 2,639 232 825 49 (-1) 28 (-2) 15 Jan 19 6,722 38,759 2,285 248 821 50 (+1) 30 (+1) 16 Jan 18 39,782 33,493 2,002 264 810 49 (-3) 29 (-8) 14 Jan 17 41,473 28,780 1,815 203 802 52 (-7) 37 (-4) 11 Jan 16 28,178 ------- ----- --- 734 59 (+0) 41 (+1) 16 Jan 15 25,188 25,034 1,644 202 711 59 (-1) 40 (+4) 16 Jan 14 25,883 23,614 1,519 215 757 60 (-4) 36 (-2) 15 Jan 13 23,776 25,751 1,822 194 755 64 (-9) 38 (-8) 20 Jan 12 22,575 24,343 1,614 215 751 73 (+0) 46 (+0) 25 Jan 11 22,656 22,936 1,459 181 754 73 (-1) 46 (-1) 14 Jan 10 23,244 14,414 941 156 777 74 (-3) 47 (-3) 9 Jan 09 16,330 19,248 1,327 126 723 77 (-1) 50 (-2) 14 Jan 08 13,573 12,588 984 161 730 78 (+0) 52 (-1) 28 Jan 07 14,434 18,261 1,482 186 755 78 (-4) 53 (+4) 10 Jan 06 15,417 25,995 2,027 161 756 82 (+2) 47 (-2) 11 Jan 05 17,577 28,283 2,083 204 784 80 (+3) 49 (+2) 15 Jan 04 23,698 23,372 1,701 229 792 77 (+4) 47 (+1) 15 Jan 03* 25,617 8,801 532 169 770 73 (-3) 46 (-4) 5 Jan 02 19,906 7,550 404 163 709 76 (+3) 50 (+1) 15 Jan 01 8,631 20,885 1,049 139 647 73 (+0) 49 (+0) 5 Dec 31 9,728 17,605 1,090 177 641 73 (-2) 49 (-1) 11 Dec 30 19,927 21,403 1,123 178 665 75 (-2) 50 (-2) 9 Dec 29 17,245 23,228 1,205 173 675 77 (+6) 52 (+2) 16 Dec 28 21,955 13,000 670 177 666 71 (+1) 50 (+4) 14 Dec 27 22,616 16,164 639 115 608 70 (-1) 46 (-2) 7 Dec 26 10,965 14,844 644 123 579 71 (-2) 43 (+1) 13 Dec 25 7,853 10,027 463 86 522 73 (-1) 44 (+5) 10 Dec 24 7,054 11,229 527 134 509 74 (+2) 39 (+1) 14 Dec 23 12,605 12,487 613 158 541 72 (+6) 38 (+1) 15 Dec 22 11,591 13,386 531 126 524 66 (-1) 37 (+2) 14 Dec 21 13,011 13,558 501 121 526 67 (+1) 35 (+2) 17 Dec 20 13,288 10,082 --- 85 581 66 (+3) 33 (-2) 8 Dec 19 10,231 8,212 Dec 18 10,049 8,594 Dec 17 10.614 11,194 Dec 16 10,171 9,999 Dec 15 10,775 8,773 --- 96 508 66 (+0) 43 (-3) 9 Dec 13 10,294 7,799 --- 61 480 64 (-1) 42 (+0) 9 Dec 12 6,986 5,989 --- 82 468 65 (+5) 42 (+6) 9 Dec 08 6,560 6,629 --- 72 461 66 (-1) 38 (-1) 7 Dec 01 4,464 5,120 --- 88 439 35 (+1) 35 (+1) 14 pre:Date Bed Availability ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 03 January 331 ICU beds, 76 COVID, 32 available 27 December 316 ICU beds, 71 COVID, 62 available 20 December 317 ICU beds, 60 COVID, 59 available 13 December 319 ICU beds, 64 COVID, 39 available 06 December 310 ICU beds, 67 COVID, 10 available <-- squeaky bum time here 29 November 318 ICU beds, 61 COVID, 25 available https://www.rkkp.dk/kvalitetsdatabaser/databaser/dansk-intensiv-database/resultater/ https://covid19.ssi.dk/overvagningsdata/download-fil-med-overvaagningdata https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/242ec2acc014456295189631586f1d26 https://covid19.ssi.dk/virusvarianter/delta-pcr
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VitalSigns posted:It's too bad Abrams tanks don't protect you from covid because then the government would sign a trillion dollar contract to send every American 10 of them every month. Armor isn't my thing, but given the original mission of the Abrams, it would be surprising if they didn't have significant CBRN hardening. Is this one of those capabilities that you really need to be maintaining deliberately month over month, where most of armor guys outside Europe don't really care too much about CBRN anymore after decades of bs counterinsurgency deployment? in case it isn't glaringly obvious, this is an attempt at some much needed levity
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TheSlutPit posted:It’s really no different from picking out a set of good work shoes, and the differences in quality of day-to-day life are equally noticeable. Jumping on this, I took time in the summer of 2020 to try out a bunch of tried-and-tested brands and models of PPE with licensed, practicing occupational health & safety employees at one of my client sites. I've worked as a computer toucher supporting some clients who have environments working with significant presence of potentially aerosolized retroviral agent and nanomaterial hazards for the better part of a decade, but I've always just worn the default site offering of a disposable 3M half face dome NIOSH respirator without thinking about it too hard. I had to get it fit tested every year, but that was about the extent of my concern for the matter. Back to 2020, I actually made a point to talk with the safety and health staff about other options that (1) might fit better (2) might be more comfortable .... and as a synthesis of 1+2, would provide me better overall mitigation of airborne risks. Out of this, I ended up on a different 3M disposable respirator they had on hand and had them charge my team for a pair of 7503 elastomeric half face respirators with cartridges on the P100 specification that, despite being heavier and bulkier due to exceeding the site's requirements in normal operation, fit WAY more comfortably My sole point here is that it's totally worth trying out a bunch of options. Obviously, I've had to move on to other PPE in light of requirements that I provide some kind of source control (7503s don't have certified exhalation valve plugs) and what fits on my face is going to fit differently on your face. But, whether you're required (or choose) to wear cloth or surgicals or aerosol respirators, shop around and try a few.
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Potato Salad posted:These new admissions would need to be sequenced. Several of the members of various CoV-2 clades have the same mutation that has been a hallmark for Delta detection. https://twitter.com/PeacockFlu/status/1483768659420094464?s=20 Basically a marginally more fit omicron that may deserve it's own Greek letter but initially looks like it just kinda swaps places with ba.1. Tom and a couple people he follows on this guess it won't effect vaccine efficacy much and ba.1 infections probably grant immunity against it.
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Can you elaborate on this? I don’t agree that the number of deaths is too small to support the conclusion that the majority of deaths are among people with more risk factors; this seems like it would be the null hypothesis going in based on prior understanding of mortality risk and it also matches up with the in-study finding of increased risk of non-fatal severe outcomes with a larger sample size (around 150 iirc), so the small sample size isn’t ideal but also not a critical flaw that makes the study worthless. I’m curious about your comment on inadequate controls, though. The “cdc study” part is my mistake from just reading about it in news reports. It’s this Kaiser Permanente study that has been making the news rounds as “Omicron infection has 91% reduced chance of death!” It also had more Delta deaths than Omicron, but crucially it only looked at outcomes through January 1st. Since it’s the only US comparative study that I know of, I suspect that it’s the source of the “deaths are just Delta” narrative. Unfortunately, I don’t have time to discuss all the details of the methodology right now, but it only includes 12 deaths, the estimated hazard ratio for deaths is unadjusted, and the sample is drawn only from Kaiser outpatient testing, which has the potential to be problematically biased. I’ll post more thoughts later when I get a chance. This still doesn’t make the paper worthless, it means that the methodology and sample (size, methodology, and time frame) are inadequate to the strong narrative conclusions that folks like Walensky are pretending it supports. As far as Delta surging, it’s hard to find good charts from surveillance and I’ll have to look more later, but Trevor Bradford posted these today: https://mobile.twitter.com/trvrb/status/1483996714662973441 There’s at least no evidence of a Delta surge from the sequencing surveillance in those states. Given that median infection-to-death time is ~20 days, that makes the “it’s Delta” narrative less believable without current evidence. E: Apparently S-gene failure might also be an inadequate distinguishing test? I’ll have to look into that more because that could mean that the study isn’t useful for comparing delta and omicron.
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Mellow Seas posted:The 7-day average is used because numbers are not reported every day. That's why the visible data points always stick out so far above the trend line. 2,000 is probably a more appropriate number to use, because the 3,904 represents more than one day's worth of deaths. The question I answered was specifically about the total for the day. The question was about a data point and I answered about that data point with a link that includes a whole lot of other information including the data point that you mention. The question was not "which number should I look at?" If that were the question, then the answer is that there isn't one magic number that answers all of the questions and multiple numbers should be considered together and not in opposition to each other. But more specifically the 7day average is not averaged around the day in question (i.e. that day plus the 3 days prior and 3 days after) it is averaged around that day and the 6 days prior. This means that this particular average is going to lag behind about 3 days from how averages work in most every other situation. This means that any actionable observation/deduction derived from exclusively the 7-day average is going to, at best, be 3 days late.
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Stickman posted:
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Stickman posted:The “cdc study” part is my mistake from just reading about it in news reports. It’s this Kaiser Permanente study that has been making the news rounds as “Omicron infection has 91% reduced chance of death!” It also had more Delta deaths than Omicron, but crucially it only looked at outcomes through January 1st. Since it’s the only US comparative study that I know of, I suspect that it’s the source of the “deaths are just Delta” narrative. Got it, makes sense. Haven’t read or heard about this Kaiser paper yet, but at first blush your criticism all seems well reasoned. If you do have thoughts on the CDC paper about risk factors among vaxxed, I’d be curious to hear too. I shared my perspective already but always good to hear more points of view.
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Petey posted:I believe it can't distinguish between {BA.1 Omicron} and {BA.2 Omicron OR Delta} That would be a problem for tagging delta cases based on s-gene failure if BA.2 were prevalent, but I don’t know anything about it’s distribution or relative abundance. It may not be a problem for this particular paper!
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:Got it, makes sense. Haven’t read or heard about this Kaiser paper yet, but at first blush your criticism all seems well reasoned. Sure, I'll look over the discussion later today or tomorrow. I did post a bit about about it before your discussion but it was in the context of Walensky and news outlets focusing on the absolute rates for breakthrough cases/hospitalizations from the paper, which the study was certainly not designed to reasonably estimate. I think the discussion you all had was about the degree of potential bias in estimation of relative risks of death based on comorbidities? Here's what I wrote before: Stickman posted:The study is definitely not designed to comprehensively capture breakthrough infections or assess effectiveness. The used a database that tracked COVID-19 inpatient and outpatient encounters in 495 hospital facilities, which means that any breakthroughs tested outside of those specific facilities would not be captured (ie, testing sites, smaller clinics, etc). The 1.2M likely comes from the # of people vaccinated at those facilities (it's not 100% from the methodology), but there's no guarantee that they would also test at a covered facility. They also don't say how vax and patient records were matched within the database, but having worked with this sort of data before I'm pretty confident there's going to some misses for cases within the (potentially both from people who were vaxxed outside of the system or even state and from mismatched identifiers).
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Not that I'll be voluntarily travelling to the United States anytime soon, but I have been having to look at what it would entail and frankly it is loving hilarious that you are required to show a negative PCR test from the last 24 hours before being allowed to board a plane that will take you directly into the 1 million case a day hellscape that is America. God forbid some foreigner should bring a disease into this pristine Eden.
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Illuminti posted:Not that I'll be voluntarily travelling to the United States anytime soon, but I have been having to look at what it would entail and frankly it is loving hilarious that you are required to show a negative PCR test from the last 24 hours before being allowed to board a plane that will take you directly into the 1 million case a day hellscape that is America. God forbid some foreigner should bring a disease into this pristine Eden. In late summer 2020 I had to travel to the US. The aircrew gave me a slip of paper to fill out, asking if I'd been in Wuhan in the past two weeks. I went through immigration, and no one said a word to me, which was a welcome change from the usual interrogation. Then I got my bags, walked through customs, and was standing at the taxi line still holding that useless slip of paper that they didn't even collect. There were a few others just like it blowing in the wind near a trash can.
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Illuminti posted:it is loving hilarious that you are required to show a negative PCR test from the last 24 hours It doesn't have to be a PCR test.
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Smeef posted:The aircrew gave me a slip of paper to fill out, asking if I'd been in Wuhan in the past two weeks.
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Illuminti posted:Not that I'll be voluntarily travelling to the United States anytime soon, but I have been having to look at what it would entail and frankly it is loving hilarious that you are required to show a negative PCR test from the last 24 hours before being allowed to board a plane that will take you directly into the 1 million case a day hellscape that is America. God forbid some foreigner should bring a disease into this pristine Eden. Hi, involuntary avatar bought for you by a psychopath buddy! It's all pretty simple and the same in virtually all countries. It's easier to control a border than it is to control movement and behavior within the country. Checks at airports are run by the federal government, which right now is somewhat more reasonable than many states. Additionally, virtually all countries require tourists and immigrants to fulfill criteria that their citizens don't. Lastly, I think it makes sense to at least try not to add to the number of infections and chud talking points by not allowing infected people to come in. Okay, back to pointing out how only the US does this.
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Smeef posted:In late summer 2020 I had to travel to the US. The aircrew gave me a slip of paper to fill out, asking if I'd been in Wuhan in the past two weeks. I went through immigration, and no one said a word to me, which was a welcome change from the usual interrogation. Then I got my bags, walked through customs, and was standing at the taxi line still holding that useless slip of paper that they didn't even collect. There were a few others just like it blowing in the wind near a trash can. Haunting. But yeah it's all theatre, like taking your belt and shoes off. tagesschau posted:It doesn't have to be a PCR test. This is true, but in effect it isn't. They don't accept your used RAT at check in and you need documentation that you had a proper test carried out by someone. Where I am that means getting a PCR at the airport. Although I suppose you could make a doctors appointment on the day of your flight and do a RAT test in front of them.... Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Hi, involuntary avatar bought for you by a psychopath buddy! Hi fellow supporter of glorious disease free China. Thanks, I hadn't yet formulated my thoughts into a letter to send to the US Embassy and you've given me a lot to think about. Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:
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