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Thoguh posted:It is a very crack/ping exercise to consider how swiftly and strongly we respond to low probability events that cause a handful of deaths in most areas but just shrug our shoulders at hundreds of thousands of deaths that are mostly easily preventable. A company can sell a million units of some kids toy, have one or two kids choke on it, and then basically go bankrupt between the recall and lawsuits. 2 planes crash and it costs Boeing billions of dollars. One person gets sick from Listeria and we recall tens of millions of dollars worth of lettuce. And so one. But a 9/11's worth of people dieing a day to an airborne contagious disease? Open 'er up, it's nothing. they're preventable, but they require minor, direct and visible inconvenience to everyone. there's no direct "do this" -> "solves this" causation either; the effects of people wearing masks on the resulting death toll is only statistical. no one can say "wearing a mask this one time specifically lead to this one specific person not dying". there's no opportunity to be directly praised for doing the right thing. there's no way to directly hold individuals responsible for deaths without any "reasonable doubt". the entire problem is one which only really exists when looking at total populations as a whole, and the only solutions are collective actions by those populations. and the past 40 years of neoliberal ideology have been wholly dedicated to making sure that the very idea of collective action is seen as unnecessary, ineffective, impossible, and even morally wrong. and they were successful
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mistermojo posted:its crazy how many more people are dying with covid all of a sudden Many such cases!
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i am harry posted:wow we're past three grand and closer to four?! Empty Shelves Joe was fun, but we seemed to abandon that one almost immediately. My local grocery store was as pathetic as it's ever been yesterday.
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mastershakeman posted:its not complicated, when companies are involved the gigantic legal system gets going against them. just look at the opioid crisis - fair amount of deaths, tons of lawsuits, huge amount of litigation, now the main manufacturers aren't pumping out their supply anymore. but wait, opioid deaths have doubled with the move to illicit product. oh well, nothing to be done, just the way things are now There was a good episode of It Could Happen Here last week about hyperobjects that I thought did a good job touching on why humans have such a difficult time thinking about problems that are intangible but have tangible effects, like covid and climate change. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/hyperobjects-our-liminal-reality-91725702/
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when it comes to the olfactory bulbs (ur nose) and that area of the brain, COVID can’t be beat (this thread is in comparison Flu A) https://twitter.com/Justin_Frere/status/1484185019006468096?s=20 So good we are finding potential more links to long COVID but friends, I just sadly report, COVID is not just the flu
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cr0y posted:So I usually just check around this thread for national numbers but what is the go-to dashboard for more local case data and graphs? (USA, maybe down to the county level?) I've always just been able to google "X County, State COVID"
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Animal-Mother posted:Empty Shelves Joe was fun, but we seemed to abandon that one almost immediately. My local grocery store was as pathetic as it's ever been yesterday. BBB = Burnin' Bodies Biden
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Leon Sumbitches posted:If there are any computer touchers who could set up a news alert blast for when SHTF and call all the lurkers back to the thread, it would be a boon for mental health for many. Skip to the last page daily without reading anything, if the unread post count is 2000 then SHTF (or someone said trmpu) incidentally only 200 posts overnight is sad night crew energy so i assume covid is over
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Going by just the official numbers, 1336 Americans have died every single day since 4/1/2020 from the coronavirus, roughly 18% higher mortality every single day for 659 straight days, and absolutely nobody gives a gently caress anymore. And people will imply that *you* are the person with brain problems if you bring up how insane that is. I keep wondering if we're eventually going to have a collective realization of what we've lost but then I remember lol of course we won't There's no way American society doesn't just continue to get more psychopathically committed to the death cult after all this.
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Zurtilik posted:Joe "Kill 'em All" Biden I'm from Open Biden and I say kill em all!
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:You have 22 pages of posts in the covid thread and have been hanging out maskless with someone 4 months out of your booster lmaoo ???? Yeah, I'm a loving idiot. We were at least spaced out a good bit for most of the time. I'll let yall know if I die.
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Ash1138 posted:pretty wild that when we get "war fatigue" it means we want to stop losing american lives on a failed imperial conquest, but when we get "covid fatigue" it means we want to die by the thousands per day for applebees i'm trying to find a good screenshot of the scene in Paths of Glory where Kirk Douglas agrees to send his men on an impossible mission to take "The Anthill," an extremely fortified position that an idiot general insists must be taken, but instead of the anthill it's applebee's
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Crazyweasel posted:when it comes to the olfactory bulbs (ur nose) and that area of the brain, COVID can’t be beat (this thread is in comparison Flu A) Yeah, immune response can wreak as much havoc on the brain as direct infection. Between weeks of subclinical hypoxia and global cytokine storms I would be surprised to [I]not[/[I] see damage in the brain. It still doesn't look like COVID has gained the ability to travel up the olfactory nerve and infect the brain.
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AppleNippleBOB posted:I'll let yall know if I die. Has a goon ever posted from beyond the grave? Somehow, this seems possible.
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SchrodingersCat posted:Yeah, immune response can wreak as much havoc on the brain as direct infection. Between weeks of subclinical hypoxia and global cytokine storms I would be surprised to [I]not[/[I] see damage in the brain. It still doesn't look like COVID has gained the ability to travel up the olfactory nerve and infect the brain. lol imagine if cov2 could infect like rabies anyway going to go scream now tia 
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Animal-Mother posted:Has a goon ever posted from beyond the grave? Somehow, this seems possible. statistically speaking, multiple covid thread posters have to have died already from it
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Throatwarbler posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-threatens-to-bring-a-wave-of-hikikomori-to-america/ Handing the keys to American mass media to like six different companies all serving the same interests was a bad idea
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:they're preventable, but they require minor, direct and visible inconvenience to everyone. there's no direct "do this" -> "solves this" causation either; the effects of people wearing masks on the resulting death toll is only statistical. no one can say "wearing a mask this one time specifically lead to this one specific person not dying". there's no opportunity to be directly praised for doing the right thing. there's no way to directly hold individuals responsible for deaths without any "reasonable doubt". the entire problem is one which only really exists when looking at total populations as a whole, and the only solutions are collective actions by those populations. and the past 40 years of neoliberal ideology have been wholly dedicated to making sure that the very idea of collective action is seen as unnecessary, ineffective, impossible, and even morally wrong. and they were successful Yeah, I agree on you for the reason why we're doing it that way. I just think it's crack ping that we're actually doing it.
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Animal-Mother posted:Has a goon ever posted from beyond the grave? Somehow, this seems possible. closest i can think of is caro coming back after being written off as dead in a torture prison somewhere in syria
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mediaphage posted:lol imagine if cov2 could infect like rabies quote:Starting Jan. 31, a host of indoor settings will be able to reopen to the public with 50 per cent capacity limits, including: Oh whew
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Leon Sumbitches posted:If there are any computer touchers who could set up a news alert blast for when SHTF and call all the lurkers back to the thread, it would be a boon for mental health for many. same. I do this vvv Ursine Catastrophe posted:Skip to the last page daily without reading anything, if the unread post count is 2000 then SHTF and scan for twitter embeds or anything that got quoted a lot
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Thoguh posted:It is a very crack/ping exercise to consider how swiftly and strongly we respond to low probability events that cause a handful of deaths in most areas but just shrug our shoulders at hundreds of thousands of deaths that are mostly easily preventable. A company can sell a million units of some kids toy, have one or two kids choke on it, and then basically go bankrupt between the recall and lawsuits. 2 planes crash and it costs Boeing billions of dollars. One person gets sick from Listeria and we recall tens of millions of dollars worth of lettuce. And so one. But a 9/11's worth of people dieing a day to an airborne contagious disease? Open 'er up, it's nothing. None of those things undermine the fundamental inner workings of capitalism the way a proper response to covid would. But I'm sure you already know this.
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saw this for illinois Statewide, as of Thursday, about 17.5% and 15.3% of Black and Latino residents, respectively, have received the third dose of the coronavirus vaccine. Meanwhile, about 36.2% of Asian residents and 32.3% of white residents have gotten the booster.
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AppleNippleBOB posted:Yeah, I'm a loving idiot. We all are  I've done the same russian roulette before and even if I joke I appreciate the anecdote so I can mentally keep poo poo tight good luck!
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Throatwarbler posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-threatens-to-bring-a-wave-of-hikikomori-to-america/ We've arguably had one since period, for a month or two last summer, when COVID cases were "relatively low" in the United States. And even then they were still above the 10 cases per 100k per week that the CDC considers actual low transmission. In retrospect I wish I would have done more during the suck and gently caress summer and next time cases reach that level I probably will try to take advantage more than I did last time. But that whole article is premised on the idea that there has been significant periods of low COVID transmission since it showed up in early 2020 and that's straight up not the case.
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Throatwarbler posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-threatens-to-bring-a-wave-of-hikikomori-to-america/ "like eating in restaurants" lmao gently caress off with this I'm never going to sit down in a restaurant ever again but it's not because I'm anti-social.
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Throatwarbler posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-threatens-to-bring-a-wave-of-hikikomori-to-america/ I know that therapists and psychologists provide useful treatments for people who need them, but I see poo poo like this and it's a cogent reminder that the entire mental health industry exists to send people into the meat grinder so the number goes up.
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Throatwarbler posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/covid-threatens-to-bring-a-wave-of-hikikomori-to-america/ America already has hikikomori lol they’re called “neet failsons”
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