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Bottom Liner posted:Right, but outside of first time playing with no guidance or reading the tips in the rulebook, that shouldn’t happen. I’d argue the same could be said of any number of euro games where there are obvious good and bad first turns. This only became a talking point with Splotter because their games are very sink or swim in a way MWEs are not. You can take terrible first turns in Agricola, Concordia, T&E, etc, that could also cost you the game. You can bid all your meeples of a color on a spring tile in Keyflower turn 1. It’s not a smart move, but you can do it. I was responding to your assertion that it wasn't their ethos to have game-determining decisions on turn one, which was followed by your quoting their statement that explicitly contradicts your assertion. I'm not passing judgment on their ethos, and believe Splotter makes great games. Their games are not very forgiving, and part of what makes them good, but that's definitely intentional.
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Jan 20, 2022 21:34
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Bottom Liner posted:
I was legitimately considering adding specific mention of The Good Doctor K to the OP. But now I must reveal my deep dark secret goony shame: I've honestly only played a few of this games: High Society (love it), Lost Cities (only online, love it) Through the Desert, Colossal Arena, and Age of War (only once each, pre-pandemic, liked TtD, the others were medium). I am moderately familiar with a few others like Modern Art, Yellow & Yangtze and Circus Flohcati through general osmosis. With Tigris & Euphrates in alpha on BGA, I was thinking of trying it, but it truly never sounded like it was my speed and I think my game group would bounce off it. Also, if I mention him then I probably should mention a few others and the OP would be as long as the list of games Reiner Knizia designed.
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Jan 20, 2022 21:57
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homullus posted:I was responding to your assertion that it wasn't their ethos to have game-determining decisions on turn one, which was followed by your quoting their statement that explicitly contradicts your assertion. I'm not passing judgment on their ethos, and believe Splotter makes great games. Their games are not very forgiving, and part of what makes them good, but that's definitely intentional. Change “determining” to “influencing” and you’re correct. I don’t think “the first turn matters” is the same as “the first turn is *all* that matters” as some of this talk implies. “Game determining” is loaded language that is absolutely not accurate to the statement or the games. Yes, there are important decisions on turn one, but they do not supersede the rest of the game and make it all just a long resolution of those initial choices. You can lose the game by making a bad error at any point in the game, but that is harder to do in round one than any other time in the game barring a new player just trying things at random. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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Jan 20, 2022 22:14
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I still need to really play my copy of Radlands. The production value doesn’t disappoint though. They use the same PVC cards as Too Many Bones.
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Jan 21, 2022 05:15
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Radlands is very high in my To Play pile, but every time I have a game day it's for 4+ players  Got shipping notification for Great Western Trail 2nd Edition, which has finally hit Australia. Must have been stuck on the Ever Given, as I ordered it nearly 6 months ago. Glad it has a single player module cause 
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Jan 21, 2022 07:16
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Just picked up and punched my copy of GWT this arvo, also in Australia. Can't wait to get it to the table but I'll be lucky to get more than a 2p game in at the moment so I'm low-key jealous of you complaining you regularly get 4.
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Jan 21, 2022 08:39
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I'm just glad I'm getting to play it on bga in alpha. It's a really good implementation, with proper undo, and feels like the right kind of game to play async (other player turns are impactful but you can gauge how they affect you pretty easily, your turns are chunky, doesn't take a millennia if people are pushing
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Jan 21, 2022 13:56
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Hopefully that's good news for copies getting to Canada, I ordered mine in the middle of November and it's been sitting in pre-ordered status ever since.
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Jan 21, 2022 16:08
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Is Hyperborea out of print? Talk a bit ago has me interested but there only seems to be a single copy on Amazon and Miniature Market doesn't even have a page for it.
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Jan 21, 2022 16:17
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Bottom Liner posted:Right, but outside of first time playing with no guidance or reading the tips in the rulebook, that shouldn’t happen. I’d argue the same could be said of any number of euro games where there are obvious good and bad first turns. This only became a talking point with Splotter because their games are very sink or swim in a way MWEs are not. You can take terrible first turns in Agricola, Concordia, T&E, etc, that could also cost you the game. You can bid all your meeples of a color on a spring tile in Keyflower turn 1. It’s not a smart move, but you can do it. I think I would argue the big difference there is that doing that in Keyflower, if you know the rules, is obviously a bad thing to do. In FCM it's not immediately obvious just from know the rules that what you did was terminal for your game.
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Jan 21, 2022 16:24
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SettingSun posted:Is Hyperborea out of print? Talk a bit ago has me interested but there only seems to be a single copy on Amazon and Miniature Market doesn't even have a page for it. I remember Hyperborea being on clearance for a while, so there’s a good chance they’ve finally moved all their stock. Thats just supposition on my part, but it looks like there’s plenty of like new copies still on the geek for like $20-$30 each.
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Jan 21, 2022 17:03
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Infinitum posted:Radlands is very high in my To Play pile, but every time I have a game day it's for 4+ players When this happens to me and I have an incompatible game I want to play, I just suggest playing two games with a split group to start the night. Usually people are cool with it.
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Jan 21, 2022 17:44
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Jedit and other fans of Feast for Odin: are you guys privy to the rumours floating around that the Dane's expansion is going to be a stand-alone? The designer posted a vaguely confusing thing the other day and I'm trying to understand if it's a language barrier or not.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:07
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FulsomFrank posted:Jedit and other fans of Feast for Odin: are you guys privy to the rumours floating around that the Dane's expansion is going to be a stand-alone? The designer posted a vaguely confusing thing the other day and I'm trying to understand if it's a language barrier or not. I haven't read that yet. Got a link?
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Jan 21, 2022 18:18
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Radlands is a gorgeous, shallow pool. A lot depends on who draws the cards they need from the shared deck.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:20
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Everything I've seen from the designer has been that Danes will be standalone with new home boards, action boards, occupation cards, etc.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:23
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the holy poopacy posted:Everything I've seen from the designer has been that Danes will be standalone with new home boards, action boards, occupation cards, etc.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:26
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My understanding previously was that Danes was going to be a module type expansion (ie you would have to remove all Norwegians content) You'd end up with AFfO+Norwegians and AFfO+Danes as 2 seperate ways to play KongGeorgeVII posted:Just picked up and punched my copy of GWT this arvo, also in Australia. Can't wait to get it to the table but I'll be lucky to get more than a 2p game in at the moment so I'm low-key jealous of you complaining you regularly get 4. The flipside to this is that it becomes a pain in the arse juggling a large player group and balancing who to invite for the day. Hilariously I've planned 4 seperate Twilight Imperium days with a full 6 players, only for covid to force cancellations on every single one. When my copy of Western Empires arrives I'll probably cause Australia to explode if I get a 9 player game organised 
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Jan 21, 2022 18:27
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This is a week or so old but I assume nothing has changed radically since then:Gernot Köpke posted:Standalone means standalone. What else should it be. Nothing more needed to play Danes than Danes. Its construction with ~200 new cards and 13 new Kaupang set and 19 Kaupang buildings and so on is optimated for Danes. The hugh impact of new things will last for long time having new experiences. I have seen similar stuff from Gernot along these lines elsewhere, too.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:29
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Danes is firmly in "I'll believe it when I see it" territory. I swear I read that a prototype was ready for Gencon 2019/2020, and art was being produced. gently caress knows at this point. Luckily AFfO+Norwegians is so good it doesn't really matter if there's a delay
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Jan 21, 2022 18:41
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Infinitum posted:Danes is firmly in "I'll believe it when I see it" territory. That's where I've been at since it was announced. Should have everything and the legendary box by ohhh... about 2030 or so.
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Jan 21, 2022 18:43
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I've been fielding trade requests for my NIS AFFO since rumors of a complete edition started, but I only local trade/sell stuff that doesn't fit in a flat rate box
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Jan 21, 2022 18:46
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Fate Accomplice posted:I've been fielding trade requests for my NIS AFFO since rumors of a complete edition started, but I only local trade/sell stuff that doesn't fit in a flat rate box You gotta go with my friend's plan, play a game at a game night then when people show interest in buying it, pull out the NIS copy from the cupboard like a street dealer in a trenchcoat. I bought several games because of this method.
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Jan 21, 2022 19:52
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Back Alley Borks posted:You gotta go with my friend's plan, play a game at a game night then when people show interest in buying it, pull out the NIS copy from the cupboard like a street dealer in a trenchcoat. I would happily repurpose the trench coat in my closet for shady board games dealing but I'm also too covid-wary to play games indoors with >2 other people these days. I've bought non-KS board games exactly once in the last ~18 months, to fill out my marvel champions collection after buying someone else's collection. Other than that all my games have come/gone through the BGG monthly math trade or donations to the local library. now that KS "season" has come back I find myself hesitant to back more stuff, taking a hard look at "am I going to realistically be able to play this in the 1-2 years after it delivers?"
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Jan 21, 2022 20:00
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Fate Accomplice posted:I've been fielding trade requests for my NIS AFFO since rumors of a complete edition started, but I only local trade/sell stuff that doesn't fit in a flat rate box If you’re in the US be sure to use PirateShip to get the cheapest shipping rates as well.
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Jan 21, 2022 20:27
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After wrangling with myself/eyes bigger than stomach/FOMO/analysis paralysis, I finally settled on Spirit Island as the next game to get for the Flag household. (Yes, we're behind the times; the next-place competitor was Castles of Burgundy.) I tried a solo two-spirit game to learn it before it hit the table with my wife. It's been a while since I've been so thoroughly impressed. I can't wait to play it again. I'm tempted to blow off plans I have either tomorrow or Sunday to play it.
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Jan 22, 2022 02:34
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The game itself is fun, but I’m an incredibly big fan of the theming behind it. The spirits really capture that animism-style eldritch god vibe. Lovecraft but without the racism. As for AFfO, I’ve got the base set—the expansion(s?) are pretty much impossible to get. FCM was easier to get than The Norwegians.
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Jan 22, 2022 03:06
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I received a foam core insert for Christmas and want to check what glue I use to hold it together? Does regular craft glue work?
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Jan 22, 2022 04:16
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Maigius posted:I received a foam core insert for Christmas and want to check what glue I use to hold it together? Does regular craft glue work? Express wood glue is what Folded Space recommend.
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Jan 22, 2022 06:54
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PRADA SLUT posted:Opinion on Final Girl ? I have not played it, but after seeing the Watch It Played I was pretty hyped and was considering it as my first solo game purchase, even as a non-slasher fan. But the publisher Van Ryder Games is doing NFT bullshit so they are off my purchasing list.
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Jan 22, 2022 08:19
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So it looks like the Spirit Island promo bundle may be coming sooner rather than later. https://www.miniaturemarket.com/gtgsisl-ftfl.html
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PRADA SLUT posted:Opinion on Final Girl ? Mechanically it's very RNG-heavy, but the strategy is built around mitigating RNG. My first game I got crushed by the worst setup possible - it was impossible to win even from before turn 1. My second game I got a lucky combination of layout, starting event and items and I romped to an easy win. I would say that most of the time it will fall between those two extremes, making it tough and unforgiving but still a challenge rather than a ballache. The Feature Films have a lot of imagination in how they use the mechanics and being able to mix and match killers and locations makes for a lot of variety, and production values are high. I'm very much on the fence as to whether to back S2, though, for the reasons Magnetic North states. The NFTs don't actually concern me too much as VRG at least give them value beyond "ownership" of a JPG, treating them more like ridiculously overcomplicated raffle tickets with owner-only giveaways. However, the reason they started doing them is because AJ Porfirio is a crypto bro on the Ethereum train. There are only two kinds of people in crypto: the scammers and the bagmen. If he's a scammer I don't want him to have my money; if he's a bagman, I can't trust him with my money. So far it seems that the ETH trading is kept separate from the company funds, but we all know how that goes - "I'm just borrowing it, I'll put back twice as much".
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Jan 22, 2022 10:23
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KongGeorgeVII posted:So it looks like the Spirit Island promo bundle may be coming sooner rather than later. https://www.miniaturemarket.com/gtgsisl-ftfl.html Darn. Wish I was aware of this before I ordered the original promo spirits a few months ago. What else does it come with? Some more fear cards, a scenario or two, and even more aspects for the original spirits? Are the two newer spirits compatible with the base game or so they rely on new tokens/events that sort of thing?
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Jan 22, 2022 16:23
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They're technically compatible, but I wouldn't play Finder/Downpour without JE. They both use Isolation and Finder in particular wants the new generic powers JE provides. You get everything you mentioned + a new adversary, Scotland.
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Jan 22, 2022 18:12
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Did a first round of Return to Dark Tower. Kind of a mix between a much lighter Mage Knight and Pandemic. The giant mechanical tower makes for a pretty striking look, but it doesn't really do much in terms of game mechanics. The app is fine, and thankfully feels like it's mostly "automating board game stuff" rather than "hiding core mechanics under opaque nonsense". I think between trying different heroes/treasures/companions, and going against different monsters/adversaries we (me and the kids) will get reasonable value out of it - but I don't know that it's a great fit for the thread's normal preferences. And I imagine it'll be expensive to grab. Still, it's pretty light rules wise, looks really cool, and has some "fun stuff to try" - so if you don't mind spending a couple hours on a light game it's worth trying if you get a chance.
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Jan 22, 2022 20:13
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I still laugh that the new $250 tower does less than the 80s game’s Tower and they moved a lot of that to the app. It’s like every bad trait of modern KS board gaming in one.
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Jan 22, 2022 20:17
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Is the game playable without the tower? IE in the case that the tower breaks, or in a few years time when the app is no longer supported/developed
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Eraflure posted:They're technically compatible, but I wouldn't play Finder/Downpour without JE. They both use Isolation and Finder in particular wants the new generic powers JE provides. Honestly I think they both work fine without Jagged Earth. Yes, Finder works well with isolate cards, but ultimately he's a powerful spirit that works well with base game cards. Finder just wants cards that move invaders, and Downpour wants strong low cost cards he can repeat (preferably with water). Both can be found in abundance in the base game power decks.
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