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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Atrocious Joe posted:

The DPRK is short half it's territory though
No you see when the west partitions a country it's actually cool and good.

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Grapplejack posted:

It's pretty wild to see Ukraine panicking like this, I feel like their government has totally lost the plot and they're just throwing poo poo out there because their state is about to collapse

I bet they're mad they gave up their nukes now tho

I dunno, it doesn't seem too panicky to me. The president's walking his line between 'guys Russia's scary, better give me more money to spend on neo-nazi guns' to the west and 'actually you shouldn't panic about an impending invasion and continue on with your lives' to Ukrainians. Plus their defense...minister I assume...just did his interview where he repeated that they weren't really that worried about an actual invasion proper and are focused on more subtle threats.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1484606723851792384?t=c8SFpODv29-n1mkewD7Cpw&s=19

Serf
May 5, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Again, China's economy is still growing while western economies are in recession.

yeah that's the funny thing. dipshits are like "china's a capitalist country, you think they don't care about growth?" and its like they posted 5% growth last quarter iirc lol. even with zero-covid they keep growing

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/dsarandr/status/1484300361556840449?s=21

Dear lord, this dude started dsa caucus called “Reform and Revolution”

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Serf posted:

yeah that's the funny thing. dipshits are like "china's a capitalist country, you think they don't care about growth?" and its like they posted 5% growth last quarter iirc lol. even with zero-covid they keep growing

One thing that strikes me about this is that the critics seem not to understand just how big China is and how robust its economy is. They see that a city of millions has been quarantined or placed into lockdown or targeted with mass testing, and they think that means that a huge chunk of the Chinese economy has been forced to shut down, without really reckoning with the fact that China is a country of 1.4 billion people and so locking down something like 1.4 million people is still 0.1% of its population. Even if you target a city of 14 million people for more stringent Covid measures, that's still only 1% of the population, which doesn't really register for observers coming from countries like Canada for instance, for whom that would be more than 1 in 3 Canadians.

Add to that the fact that China actually has the state capacity and drive to do things like organize and maintain the logistics to feed millions of people during lockdown, whereas if you locked down the entire population of Ohio they would just be left to fend for themselves, and I think a lot of outside observers are just making a fundamental disconnect between seeing some basic facts about lockdowns or Covid protocols in China and interpreting them through the lens of what it would mean in a different country. Like yes, it's possible that a lockdown of that size and scale actually would collapse the Canadian economy, but that doesn't mean that's a relevant comparison for a much, much larger country that organizes its population and economy in a fundamentally different way.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

hell yeah baby we're bringing campism back

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
having been camping once, gotta say i do not enjoy it

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
It all feels like projection. Anyone talking about human trafickers i assume is a human traffiker. Or world hunger, i assume they are starving people somewhere themselves. Especially if they wearing suits.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Femur posted:

It all feels like projection. Anyone talking about human trafickers i assume is a human traffiker. Or world hunger, i assume they are starving people somewhere themselves. Especially if they wearing suits.

Why are you against the universal equality of CEO megayacht feminism

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Rent-A-Cop posted:

North Korea isn't currently short half it's territory and being flooded with weapons and Nazis by two world powers so that sounds like a win.

The lesson everyone keeps learning is that if you have nukes never give them up and if you don't have nukes get nukes.

Ukraine was never going to keep those nukes anyway. They're expensive to maintain and it would have taken them at least a year to obtain operational control over them. The only place in Russia that the ICBMs could have targeted was the Far East, and the Red Army had disabled all the nuclear-tipped cruise missiles in 1991 anyway.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

imagine how baby brained you must be to describe any member of the SPD at any time as a hardliner

They were pretty hardline when they murdered Luxemburg and Liebknecht.

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

vyelkin posted:

One thing that strikes me about this is that the critics seem not to understand just how big China is and how robust its economy is. They see that a city of millions has been quarantined or placed into lockdown or targeted with mass testing, and they think that means that a huge chunk of the Chinese economy has been forced to shut down, without really reckoning with the fact that China is a country of 1.4 billion people and so locking down something like 1.4 million people is still 0.1% of its population. Even if you target a city of 14 million people for more stringent Covid measures, that's still only 1% of the population, which doesn't really register for observers coming from countries like Canada for instance, for whom that would be more than 1 in 3 Canadians.

Add to that the fact that China actually has the state capacity and drive to do things like organize and maintain the logistics to feed millions of people during lockdown, whereas if you locked down the entire population of Ohio they would just be left to fend for themselves, and I think a lot of outside observers are just making a fundamental disconnect between seeing some basic facts about lockdowns or Covid protocols in China and interpreting them through the lens of what it would mean in a different country. Like yes, it's possible that a lockdown of that size and scale actually would collapse the Canadian economy, but that doesn't mean that's a relevant comparison for a much, much larger country that organizes its population and economy in a fundamentally different way.

Yea but this would require actual journalism.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

vyelkin posted:

which doesn't really register for observers coming from countries like Canada for instance, for whom that would be more than 1 in 3 Canadians.
That's because Canada is big on a map, but living here doesn't give you a perspective of just how small of a country it is.

Tokyo Metropolitan area has about as many people living in it as all of Canada.

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Yeah canada is a shithold that gets alot of gpod pr from being us adjacent nd white.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


https://twitter.com/kristenoy_/status/1484571705209143298?s=20
https://twitter.com/kristenoy_/status/1484625477822291975?s=20

I assume this is the Oslo Freedom Forum ghoul are screening hires to be sure they are fine with rolling back living standards in the name of bourgeois democracy

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They're going to be killing Russians, Poles, and Hungarians before moving on to a different country. Having a well armed ethnic militia is more of a recipe for mass banditry and organized crime.

If that’s the case, expect Canadian-Ukrainians to build public monuments to them, like their forbearers.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Red and Black posted:

https://twitter.com/dsarandr/status/1484300361556840449?s=21

Dear lord, this dude started dsa caucus called “Reform and Revolution”

lmao dsa is hilariously infiltrated

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
what does us 'criticizing North Korea' loving matter? Who gives a poo poo just say you want the sanctions in place because you read on twitter Kim fires AA cannons at his people for sport or whatever!

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

HiroProtagonist posted:

lmao dsa is hilariously infiltrated

Yeah but I'm going with tremendously stupid on this one

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

StashAugustine posted:

Yeah but I'm going with tremendously stupid on this one

not much difference if you've read the CIA manual on the subject

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Red and Black posted:

https://twitter.com/dsarandr/status/1484300361556840449?s=21

Dear lord, this dude started dsa caucus called “Reform and Revolution”

I love campism

Bruce is great in Evil Dead

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/kgborland/status/1484186814646603780

These people are all deranged.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008


HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

The US, with 30k troops permanently stationed on the artificially imposed border, doing annual exercises simulating a full scale invasion of another country: well guess we're capitulating to pyongyang's demands once again

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/tanvi_madan/status/1484641064166305795?s=20
https://twitter.com/tanvi_madan/status/1484645221992435712?s=20
https://twitter.com/next_china/status/1484112042567032839?s=20
https://twitter.com/NikkeiAsia/status/1353637083106193408?s=20

It would be very funny if the Germany hesitance to participate in the Ukraine BS is because they want NATO to focus on China

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

That would make their geopolitical strategy just as incoherent as the American one.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
What if they're tring to get the focus on China to get it off of Russia? That'd be coherent at least.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Yes well, I'm a bit of a Christian psychopath myself you know.

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

The whole "belligerent, aggressive, provocative China" framing coming from the west is God drat insane.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Lostconfused posted:

That would make their geopolitical strategy just as incoherent as the American one.

And as incoherent as Turkey’s strategy

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

DiscountDildos posted:

The whole "belligerent, aggressive, provocative China" framing coming from the west is God drat insane.

Especially in light of what the claims are. China having a blue water, but mostly littoral, navy in their own waters is somehow a huge provocation?

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Would you say it is time for The Ukraine to be Putin its place :ocelot: :grin:

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

I love Roman Catholic Germans.

Isn't Putin deep into Orthodoxy? He's got shitloads of the stuff. Is that atheism if you're a Nazi German Roman Catholic?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

man looks like a sex criminal

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/WilliamYang120/status/1484375555114172416

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
"The west will stand together"

"Wait. Migrants? Must Brexit immediately"

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

XMNN posted:

man looks like a sex criminal

🦆

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Red and Black posted:

https://twitter.com/dsarandr/status/1484300361556840449?s=21

Dear lord, this dude started dsa caucus called “Reform and Revolution”

what is the brain damage that causes people to be like this lol

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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

the long haul task of preparing western public opinion for war with China is something to see

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