i don't think either the anime/manga make moves to strongly connect it to her care for Bojji but agree that seems to be the intended read. especially now with the context of how she gave Daida the duty to act as a protector for his brother. it's a good example of benevolent prejudice and still something i think Bojji will have to overcome, given stuff like Fangz mentioned.
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# ? Jan 9, 2022 04:47 |
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Yeah my read is that Hilling loves Bojji but does not have any faith in his ability at anything.
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 14:54 |
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It's hardly an unreasonable view either. If you're regularly walking through thr street naked, getting laughed at by everyone, maybe you're going to have a tough time inspiring respect and obedience as head of state.
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 15:17 |
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Additionally, looking at Bosse, I think the prospect of putting Bojji into that position scares the poo poo out of her. In her mind it's a quick way for Bojji to end up dead. She was arguing for tucking him away and continuing his education while Daida bears the brunt to protect him. While Hiling puts on the face of arrogance and severity, she understands that their position is pretty much a precarious battle royale and that a strong reputation is going to help them survive. It's in private you see her playing with the kids and climbing over walls to give them treats. That's who she wants to be. Unless you hurt her babies, the severity is all for show. Poor woman felt so badly about that show creeping into her relationship with Bojji that she let him do something he wanted (with top security) and he immediately loving died.
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# ? Jan 10, 2022 18:24 |
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Ranking of Kings: Where every character is the best character. You thought knights 1 through 4 were just goofy background characters? No, they're actually awesome. I guess we got more of Miranjo's motivation, and unsurprisingly given the show she's doing what she's doing out of a sense of loyalty and fealty. She's going to unfreeze all the monsters in the basement, right? Meanwhile, Ouken continues being deeply disturbing. Do you think there's actually anything inside all of that armor? There's a shot in the opening that makes it look like maybe all that's inside him is that black blood.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 20:49 |
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Hiling continues to be The Best. The reveal about her armor was great.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 21:09 |
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The town guards were one thing but those townspeople have very weak self preservation instincts.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 22:05 |
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the black haired guy with the mustache in the opening is clearly pre-evil Ouken, right? still loving these episodes. Everytime we get to see Dorshe fight is such a delight (please live)
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# ? Jan 14, 2022 14:26 |
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UnderFreddy posted:the black haired guy with the mustache in the opening is clearly pre-evil Ouken, right? Yeah. I expect that Ouken is Despa's twin brother. It explains why they look alike, and why Desha + the two of them are so prevalent in the OP. Really, I'm interested to see how Desha gets involved with all the poo poo going on in Bosse's kingdom beyond sending his royal guard.
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# ? Jan 14, 2022 14:58 |
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UnderFreddy posted:the black haired guy with the mustache in the opening is clearly pre-evil Ouken, right? Could be a younger pre King Desha Desha and Despa are brothers, so its likely they both looked alike. We know being kings puts an immense burden on the people holding the title. Its possible that Desha aged faster because of the stresses of it. It can fit with the statue scene in the underworld too, instead of Desha being angry because of his ugly face on the statue it could be that it had his old face in it and is reminded of what he lost. Although Ouken has the naming convention going for him. He could have been the brother that would have inherit the king title originally or he could be Deshas son Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jan 15, 2022 |
# ? Jan 15, 2022 15:11 |
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Been binging this and one of my low-key favorite parts is how despite the world being overwhelmingly filled with typical humans almost nobody blinks at Kage. Even within the lore of the show he's a shape-shifting blob with a proboscis for a mouth but everyone besides Bebin seems to look at him and go "yep that's a regular guy."
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# ? Jan 15, 2022 22:12 |
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While showing this to my mom, I described Kage as more of a "critter." She loving hates Domas.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 03:53 |
Just found this anime and finished it. Hoo Boy Its a breath of fresh air from other anime. https://i.imgur.com/RB2yolJ.mp4
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 04:12 |
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:Been binging this and one of my low-key favorite parts is how despite the world being overwhelmingly filled with typical humans almost nobody blinks at Kage. Even within the lore of the show he's a shape-shifting blob with a proboscis for a mouth but everyone besides Bebin seems to look at him and go "yep that's a regular guy." To be fair, Bebin's approach was more along the lines of "I know about your tribe, you're freelance assassins, who sent you and who are you here to kill?" and he seemed to pretty quickly come around on Kage in terms of being individual considering he had Kage spend a couple of episodes shadowing (ha ha) Bojji. Das Boo posted:While showing this to my mom, I described Kage as more of a "critter." Your mother has good sense.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 04:13 |
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So I'm digging the animation and the characters, but the narrative structure of this show feels like it's going off the rails. It's been a bit random and unexplained why things are happening all along, but the last couple of episodes have been a clown show. It's just losing me when people seem to be changing motivations from scene to scene or crowds of monsters stand around without attacking, or crowds of people stand around to be attacked. I'll keep watching it due to its strengths, but I hope it settles down a bit and stuff starts happening with some reason.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 10:07 |
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Yeah, I feel you. This latest episode especially was a real mess, but I’m hoping it comes together again…
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 11:06 |
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I feel like each character individually is pretty layered and well-written, but the overall flow of the plot feels disjointed, with pretty flimsy excuses to explain why things happen that way or why there are so many convoluted turns in every character's schemes. I'm still interested in finding out how things turn out, but I'm not really expecting an overarching narrative that coherently ties up every plot thread together, just some cool action scenes and cute character moments.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 20:00 |
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I'm willing to give the show a pass because there is so much backstory we just straight up don't know. What seems janky and convoluted now probably has decent reasoning behind it. People are loving complicated.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 21:30 |
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I think multi-way action sequences where different stuff is happening simultaneously is just inherently problematic in anime. FSN:UBW had the some issue, I'm hoping things calm down after this bit.
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 21:42 |
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yeah the first half's balance between bojji's adventures and the machinations going on back home was really good but it's losing me with this turn into seemingly 'everyone (plus random new guys) comes in for a big battle royale' open conflict is almost always both harder to pull off and less compelling than intrigue + 1v1 fights
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# ? Jan 16, 2022 21:44 |
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So I have noticed a distinct A and B team for this show (and other Wix shows), but it's usually pretty evenly broken up here with nearly every other episode being A team. (A team being the flourishy one, B team using the more traditional, economic shots.) The last two episodes have been B teams, which have had a definite impact on tone since so much of it is action-based. If cour 1 is anything to go by, I'm anticipating the next episode to be an A team ep. I wanna see how it feels with everything going on. If there's an actual term for this, someone please tell me. It's a thing I first noticed it watching Naruto as a teen. "A team" animation happened once every like, 20 episodes and you could pick it out because they would draw the light circles in the eyes.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 11:09 |
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It's normal for animation studios to have at least an A team and B team, yes, with the A team covering the big moments. I will say with RoK the B team stuff isn't nearly as dire as it often is with other shows (at least everyone is on model and has a face!) because as you said Wit is very smart about delegating them, but it's still pretty noticeable just because the A team stuff is so, so good.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 14:28 |
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it's not really A and B team, there's just a rotation of animators/episode directors and the fancy episodes happen whenever the best/most ambitious ones come around. usually the series director will try to manage it such that this happens on an episode worthy of it story-wise. there's also going to be some 2-cour fatigue though, even the strongest studios can no longer put together 24 consecutive episodes without some of them being rushed or fully outsourced. hence why there's so many split cour shows these days.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 15:56 |
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Oh poo poo! Desha has it in for Miranjo! And that ending scene means Desha and Domas are probably going to run into each other. Hilling still best character. This show's just so good as setting up hooks for later.
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# ? Jan 20, 2022 23:15 |
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Show still good but I'm begging for a return to the first cour production quality, as a treat
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# ? Jan 21, 2022 03:05 |
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loving the show but what is going on with this pacing
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# ? Jan 21, 2022 13:11 |
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Cheap Diner Coffee posted:Show still good but I'm begging for a return to the first cour production quality, as a treat Yeah, not gonna say I wasn't disappointed. This last one was pretty choppy. The Hiling and Bojji interactions did all the lifting. I am not a shipping person, but Hiling and Dorshe are good for each other and I'm glad.
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# ? Jan 21, 2022 16:52 |
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Some of the action was a bit lackluster but I think they’re doing a good job focusing on what is important. Like the aforementioned Bojji/Hilling interactions and the flashback to the fire incident.
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# ? Jan 21, 2022 17:08 |
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Boo on Hiling putting a kibosh on Bojji / Kage / Gigan good time adventures. Bojji should allowed to be friends with everyone.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 04:46 |
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In my heart I knew the non stop banger episodes couldn't last and I hope they are conserving their energy to end the season with s nonstop bangers. Despite the animation being rougher than usual I still find all the character stuff delightful each episode. Kage was on point this episode and Hilling continues to own bones.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 04:56 |
i believe bojji can and will destroy the system, for friendship
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 05:09 |
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I didn't think any of the recent episodes were bad or disappointing personally.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 05:11 |
Ibram Gaunt posted:I didn't think any of the recent episodes were bad or disappointing personally. I think they are only less in comparison still good just not AS good yknow?
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 05:15 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I didn't think any of the recent episodes were bad or disappointing personally. Same. Even in comparison I think they're still great.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 05:34 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I didn't think any of the recent episodes were bad or disappointing personally. The show is still good and fun to watch but I spend a lot more time noticing all the animation cheats / cost savers instead of the gorgeous animation that the prior episodes were full of. Also does not help that these past few episodes have been a kind of ... prolonged fight that is kind of weirdly plotted.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 05:45 |
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the manga is still publishing so its possible they dont have that much to work with
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 06:11 |
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Relin posted:the manga is still publishing so its possible they dont have that much to work with i think the problem is that when I last went through the RAWs, the manga actually did spend like 60 chapters on this nonsense lol Like we are on episode 14 and this fight we just saw is in chapter 75 - they have burned through the manga / the manga after the initial ~30 chapters doesn't have much going on. In anime adaptations its usually 2-4 chapters per episode (atleast in shounen & what slice of life stuff I've seen) but they can't (wont?) do that here. There are ~170 chapters out so they had a lot of runway to create a full season of content.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 06:33 |
well, they've been incredibly pick-and-choose about adapting things so far. entirely possible we've skipped lots of otherwise straightforward exposition/backstory stuff so they can squirrel it away for climaxes as has been the MO so far. but i haven't been bothering to seek out the manga since we crossed like, episode 5.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 06:56 |
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dogsicle posted:but i haven't been bothering to seek out the manga since we crossed like, episode 5. Same, not just because the english translation on mangadex is so far behind. And I agree, they are holding a lot back in terms of flashbacks. I hope they get a nice satisfying conclusion. Just on the first half this is my favorite anime in recent memory and I'd love for Wit to nail the landing.
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# ? Jan 22, 2022 06:58 |
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# ? Jun 13, 2024 05:17 |
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I thought last week’s episode was rough and convoluted. This week’s was great! And I didn’t notice any drop in animation quality, but then I’m not looking at it with a fine toothed comb. Just here for adorable Boji/Kage/Hilling action. I’m glad those puppies and the snake are all OK.
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# ? Jan 23, 2022 08:35 |