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Has there ever been a media property with more bitch tits on screen than Star Trek?
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Jan 22, 2022 04:08
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The General posted:I haven't found the mudbath scenes skeevy in the past. I don't recall even a hint of anything sexual at all in the scene. See, I never got that Keiko was like "eh, we can still bone." She just says "we'll figure it out". And "Stuff it in your pants for 8 more years" is figuring it out.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:08
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scene of 10 year old Keiko trying to sleep with miles. And that whole what the gently caress arc with Garak and Ziyal.
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Can't let the viewers know of Garak's rampant Bashir lust, that would immoral. Throw a teenage girl at him, at least its straight 
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Jan 22, 2022 04:10
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Just checked and Ziyal was 21 when Damar killed her, so 19 when they rescued her from the mine. Also, while looking that up I learned that apparently Ronald D Moore said in a '97 AOL chat that the writers had planned to point out that Ziyal was taking completely the wrong approach with Garak, cause we already saw that Cardassians flirt by negging each other, but they ran out of time to do anything with it.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:20
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CainFortea posted:See, I never got that Keiko was like "eh, we can still bone." She just says "we'll figure it out". And "Stuff it in your pants for 8 more years" is figuring it out. O'Brien seemed properly weirded out by the whole thing. The scene works fine in the episode, it's more just the meta "why the hell did you write this at all?" that bothers me.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:21
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the mud bath wasn't sexualized but that doesn't mean i want to see it
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Jan 22, 2022 04:24
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Has there ever been a media property with more bitch tits on screen than Star Trek? Turn on your PADD.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:24
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:O'Brien seemed properly weirded out by the whole thing. The scene works fine in the episode, it's more just the meta "why the hell did you write this at all?" that bothers me. Would it have been much better if they hadn't addressed it? The idea would still be hanging in the air for people who wanted to look for it. They really just shouldn't have used Keiko. Or better yet, they shouldn't have made the entire episode! poo poo sucked! The kid Ro and kid Guinan scenes are alright though.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:27
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This is the franchise that eventually brought you Kes, so IDK what you expect, really.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:28
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:O'Brien seemed properly weirded out by the whole thing. The scene works fine in the episode, it's more just the meta "why the hell did you write this at all?" that bothers me. Seems like them ignoring it entirely would be weirder.
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Jan 22, 2022 04:31
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Not sure if I would rather them ignore the issue or not, but assuming I'd rather them address it I think they could have done a much better job with it.
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Jan 22, 2022 06:03
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They shoulda just had someone join Keiko and Miles's table at Ten Forward and they're both just looking like they had the absolute worst conversation, but refuse to go into details about it.
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Jan 22, 2022 06:14
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Garak definitely expressed interest in Ziyal at one point. Also the mud bath scene was totally fine, I don't know what you're all whining about. Child Keiko was written way more uncomfortably. I just made it through the first mirror universe ENT episode. Man they ask Blalock to take the smallest step out of her very narrow acting range of normal T'Pol and it becomes brutally obvious how talented of an actress she is.
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Jan 22, 2022 07:44
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The Wonder Weapon posted:Garak definitely expressed interest in Ziyal at one point. You'll have to remind me when that was. My main takeaway was that he liked spending time with another Cardassian, because Cardassians are all innately racist, but it didn't go beyond that.
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Jan 22, 2022 11:28
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I mostly perceived the relationship as a father figure. She's half cardie and will always be an outsider, he befriends her because he's an outsider too. Though I wouldn't have been surprised for it turn matrimonial either. Family is important to cardassian identity, so getting married and having kids is still going to feel like the thing you ought to do. I can see him having that in the back of his mind as something to possibly explore once the war is over and then oops she's dead.
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Jan 22, 2022 13:31
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Remember when Q did that thing where he said "Is it the tattoo? Because mine's bigger". That part made me laugh so hard. But now that I think about it wasn't that from a storyline where Q was trying to mate with Janeway which is kind of weird. Also, in that one episode where Picard dies Picard says "You are not god, the universe is not so badly designed". I never understood if that was to suggest that it would be bad design for the universe to have Q as its god or if Q were god then the universe would have deficiencies that would point to Q being god's identity. In cnoclusion Q is a funny character that has given us many memorable scenes.
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Jan 22, 2022 16:19
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The Picard trailer said it was 2024. So they're totally gonna do a "member the bell riots?" except instead of an inspirational black man leading to mass societal change it will be some 90 year old British dude who thinks he's and action hero.
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Jan 22, 2022 17:09
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Can't wait for Star Trek: Picard to show me that actually it's the poor peoples fault. I seriously have zero respect for ST:P.
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Jan 22, 2022 17:11
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Star Trek Picard is perfect in that it proudly represents all of the deficiencies that Star Trek has had since day one
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Jan 22, 2022 17:19
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Arc Hammer posted:The Picard trailer said it was 2024. So they're totally gonna do a "member the bell riots?" except instead of an inspirational black man leading to mass societal change it will be some 90 year old British dude who thinks he's and action hero. If they did a seasonlong "Trials and Tribble-ations" with a DS9 episode, that would be a big improvement from doing a seasonlong "Star Trek: Picard"
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Jan 22, 2022 17:19
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PostNouveau posted:If they did a seasonlong "Trials and Tribble-ations" with a DS9 episode, that would be a big improvement from doing a seasonlong "Star Trek: Picard" If they could respect the original and be as quality of Trials and Tribbleations sure. But it's Star Trek: Picard. They'd probably show Bell torturing kittens or something and talk about the dog fighting ring in the fenced off areas.
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Jan 22, 2022 17:26
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The final episode of Star Trek Picard ends with Quark saying "Computer end program" and dumping the holoprogram in the garbage, saying "well that was loving stupid"
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Jan 22, 2022 17:45
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PostNouveau posted:If they did a seasonlong "Trials and Tribble-ations" with a DS9 episode, that would be a big improvement from doing a seasonlong "Star Trek: Picard" Fanservice pandering that people might actually like! My suggestion. A season long dective data storyline.
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Jan 22, 2022 18:15
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They're going to bring back Moriarty, but he's going to be played by Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Jan 22, 2022 18:25
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The General posted:If they could respect the original and be as quality of Trials and Tribbleations sure. But it's Star Trek: Picard. They'd probably show Bell torturing kittens or something and talk about the dog fighting ring in the fenced off areas. nope. patrick stewart loves dogs so the show will be respectful in its portrayal of them
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Jan 22, 2022 19:30
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External Organs posted:They're going to bring back Moriarty, but he's going to be played by Benedict Cumberbatch. He will also be an agent of chaos Joker-style villain, but with a sympathetic backstory You've got to stay on top of the zeitgeists
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Jan 22, 2022 19:43
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TNG Rewatch: lmao what is this prop and why did they never bring it back it owns
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Jan 22, 2022 20:11
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Danaru posted:TNG Rewatch: lmao what is this prop and why did they never bring it back it owns Needs a siren and the word CRUSHER slapped across it
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Jan 22, 2022 20:22
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Danaru posted:The final episode of Star Trek Picard ends with Quark saying "Computer end program" and dumping the holoprogram in the garbage, saying "well that was loving stupid" Focusing on his hand as he presses the delete button and all the figures in the thumbnail scream for him not to press it
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Jan 22, 2022 20:26
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Hey guys. Real question. Is it really true that Quentin Tarantino was interested in directing a Star Trek movie? c/d
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Jan 22, 2022 20:38
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hold on a minute ill ask him
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Jan 22, 2022 20:40
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he said it was a miscommunication. what he wanted to write about was starfeet
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Jan 22, 2022 20:41
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Achmed Jones posted:he said it was a miscommunication. what he wanted to write about was starfeet No no! I saw it on Red Letter Media though why are you being so meaaan
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Jan 22, 2022 20:45
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Danaru posted:TNG Rewatch i never realized sickbay had an ICEE machine but its in like every single episode 
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Jan 22, 2022 21:24
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I am a bit amused that Quark is the only alien who is aware what humans are really like and only because humans made a deliberate choice to move away from what we are do humans get disrespected as soft by the rest of the galaxy. Cardassians occupy Bajor for 50 years, leading to 10 million dead in the occupation. Humans can rip that out in a fraction of time, on a more local scale, without space tech. Borg look at humans and go 'We have to have that' and try over and over to assimilate them, despite being tens of thousands of light years from Earth. Mirror universe, for all it sucks rear end, humans are the dominate power in the galaxy on a wave of conquest. Worf is constantly bad mouthing human culture as soft, and never seemed to ever investigate traditional human warrior cultures. Romulans and other warrior races same. Federation presents a soft, luxury look to the galaxy, and only with the Dominion do they face hardship. Its my belief that the Federation out tech the rest of their contemporaries so hard that they can afford embassy cruisers and fighting science vessels, with a gentlemans agreement, at least with itself, to make only ships on par with their rivals. Then the Dominion shows up, matches and exceeds them in tech, and suddenly they need to build the Defiant using all their tech toward war do you see what a real Fed warship would be capable of. sharing Trek thoughts 
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Jan 22, 2022 22:21
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Maybe you could send over one of those famed Starfleet engineers who can turn rocks into replicators!
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Jan 22, 2022 22:31
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Danaru posted:The final episode of Star Trek Picard ends with Quark saying "Computer end program" and dumping the holoprogram in the garbage, saying "well that was loving stupid" When Barclay says "Computer, end program" at the end of that one Moriarty episode, I shut it off and treat that as the end of the franchise.
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Jan 22, 2022 22:55
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Danaru posted:The final episode of Star Trek Picard ends with Quark saying "Computer end program" and dumping the holoprogram in the garbage, saying "well that was loving stupid" In what universe is Quark just going to throw away anything he could make a profit on? QUARK Computer! End program! QUARK and NOG are standing alone in a HOLOSUITE NOG Uncle! That was… QUARK (sighing) Terrible. Nothing like the man, or the Federation. NOG Seeing all these great heroes… mocked like this… QUARK You don’t think your fellow Starfleet would enjoy… the variety? (NOG shakes his head sadly) The drama? (Again, a head shake) The effects? (NOG angles his head, considers this one for a second, then shakes it again) This wretched thing cost me 3 bars of gold-pressed latinum! I have the exclusive, galaxy-wide rights to it! I am supposed to launch time new Starfleet Family Zone with it as the main attraction but it’s just hours of discordant, loud, confusing, nonsensical… NOG (sadly) Torture! QUARK (instantly brightening) What did you say? You’re right! It was torture! And my Cousin Gayla was just saying that it’s getting harder and harder to find material to break hoomans - they’re getting well trained you know. NOG (horrified) No, Uncle! QUARK (oblivious) You know he used to sell this “four lights” contraption where you chain them up - naked - and force them to tell you there are five lights. Utterly hopeless! I told him, I told him “Gayla, these hoomans don’t have any sense for economics but they can still count, they’re perfectly numerate!” This would be much better. And I have the exclusive rights! This could be huge! NOG No, Uncle! You can’t sell torture equipment! It’s illegal and immoral. As a Starfleet officer QUARK Torture equipment? It’s a holonovel! Perfectly legal. NOG (Considers this for a beat) But… it would be worthless to Gayla if a Starfleet officer reported the contents of the novel to update their training. QUARK Well you went through it too, I suppose. (Winces a little) 5%? NOG (quickly) Done! (A little shocked at himself) But! QUARK (softens) But you’re right, my boy, Starfleet Intelligence WOULD be curious to know what the latest torture materials are in the field. And my Starfleet Family Zone needs advertising. (Clicks fingers) I know just who to talk to. NOG (smiling) After Gayla pays up, of course. QUARK Naturally. (Considers the HOLOSUITE for a moment, sourly). I need a drink. You’re buying.
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Jan 22, 2022 22:56
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John Murdoch posted:When Barclay says "Computer, end program" at the end of that one Moriarty episode, I shut it off and treat that as the end of the franchise. i love how much we all love star trek
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edit: reverse page snipe
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