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Re: Jedi stuff In some games the Jedi absolutely manipulate minds/strip Force powers from people who don't follow the council's wishes. Granted, that's stuff that wasn't written until well after the prequels and generally ends as badly as one would expect.
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I liked the intermediate period between the Original Trilogy and the Prequels where the Sith didn't exist outside of some throwaway reference to Vader being a Dark Lord of the Sith in a novelisation so all the evil Jedi in media before that were "Dark Jedi" or something along those lines
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FreudianSlippers posted:I liked the intermediate period between the Original Trilogy and the Prequels where the Sith didn't exist outside of some throwaway reference to Vader being a Dark Lord of the Sith in a novelisation so all the evil Jedi in media before that were "Dark Jedi" or something along those lines Isn't that what Dooku is? He's not Sith. But yes I know what you mean.
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Roblo posted:Isn't that what Dooku is? He's not Sith. But yes I know what you mean. And there where at least some old EU/now called Legends stuff that also had Dark Jedi that were using the Dark Side but weren't Sith.. Though I can't remember if any of those were before Phantom Menace where they said Sith are always in groups of two.
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Sith are entirely a post prequel invention. Original Trilogy Vader and Emperor were just corrupted Jedi.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Sith are entirely a post prequel invention. No? Sith was first used in relatively late scripts for the first movie (and still made it into the novelization) and Phantom Menace used the word freely.
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Yeah I distinctly remember reading in my school library in like, '93 about Sith and Anakin getting his poo poo wrecked in a lava planet
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Tales of the Jedi is apparently from 93 and also name drops Sith a bunch
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Len posted:Tales of the Jedi is apparently from 93 and also name drops Sith a bunch Star wars has been dumb for a very long time
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Improbable Lobster posted:Star wars has been dumb for literally forever I can't believe people enjoy this crap
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laser sword fights are cool ok 
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i liked those first three, they had fun lasers and space ships and robots
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It's an amazing fictional universe, populated with great characters and terrible writing.
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Baron von Eevl posted:No? Sith was first used in relatively late scripts for the first movie (and still made it into the novelization) and Phantom Menace used the word freely. Yeah but before the Phantom Menace Sith was a niche term loosely used in a couple of novelisations. Basically the Sith/Jedi dichotomy was a prequel invention.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Yeah but before the Phantom Menace Sith was a niche term loosely used in a couple of novelisations. Nah Sith have been around since the old comics and EU stuff, like already said the original script of New Hope called Vader 'a dark lord of the Sith' and all in clear contrast to Yoda/Obi-Wan's Jedi poo poo Megillah Gorilla posted:It's an amazing fictional universe, populated with great characters and terrible writing. 
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Chloe Jessica posted:laser sword fights are cool ok Just let me enjoy my space wizards
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FreudianSlippers posted:Sith are entirely a post prequel invention. Sith was in the official Marvel comics before the original trilogy was even finished.
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It literally predates the first movie! I'll give you that it wasn't common knowledge, but neither was Luke's father being named Anakin (or Annikin or whatever the first version of the name was). It doesn't mean that it was invented for the prequels, or what you said which is that it was invented after the prequels.
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Armacham posted:Just let me enjoy my space wizards George Lucas seems like a much better person than JKR, at least, though apparently that whole affordable housing thing in Marin County is still being litigated I have a Star Wars tattoo, this is mostly tongue-in-cheek
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Stargate SG-1 S10E04 (the "oops, all Ba'als!" one) If they already had an anti-Goa'uld gas, why didn't they already have a dispersal system set up as part of the base defenses? By that point it'd been about 5 years since the Tok'ra brought it up, and clearly they had enough of it to distribute through the ventilation. Sure, I recognize that the story beats require the tension to not be immediately resolved, but drat, come on.
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Gaunab posted:After having seinfeld on in the background for the past 3 months, I just realized George could have just had the donations made out to the Susan Ross Foundation in the Festivus episode. But then wouldn't he have actually had to make the donations?
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Plus I'm pretty sure everybody at work knows about his connection to the Susan Ross foundation. Do you really think George Costanza wouldn't have bragged about his charity work to every single person there?
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I feel like George was the sort of guy that would immediately have forgotten about Susan. Like him putting his dead fiancée's name on a card would have required him to think about anyone but himself for even a second.
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I don’t know if there was ever a joke where George calls her “Sarah” or “sally” after she died because he forgot her name but there should have been.
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Roblo posted:Isn't that what Dooku is? He's not Sith. But yes I know what you mean. Dooku is Darth Tyrannus.
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Jedit posted:Dooku is Darth Tyrannus. And aren't all Darths Sith Lords? (I'm assuming that's your point.)
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one of the tenets of Darth Bane's Rule of Two is that Sith should have a public identity that's above suspicion Sidious's master was a Muun from the Banking Clan and his master was a Bith, same as the cantina band dudes e: yeah yeah trap sprung
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Chloe Jessica posted:one of the tenets of Darth Bane's Rule of Two is that Sith should have a public identity that's above suspicion The Sith Bith?
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Jedit posted:Dooku is Darth Tyrannus. Huh. Thought he wasn't. Meh, it's been a while since I've seen it.
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Chloe Jessica posted:one of the tenets of Darth Bane's Rule of Two is that Sith should have a public identity that's above suspicion Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes? I fuckin love those guys
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I love Jizz
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Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments: I Love Jizz
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments: I Love Jizz
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I don't see what's so funny about loving Jizz. Figrin D'an is a a fine Juzz Wailer.
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This is more of an irritating criticism thing. Something minor that always annoys me is when people dismiss comedy movies because they aren't "funny". Sometimes what a movie lacks in pure jokes it makes up for in interesting arcs or strong writing. Bolt and The Croods aren't purely funny throughout, but I enjoy them because they have interesting stories and The Croods in particular has a great emotional hook leading up to it's finale. Comedy doesn't mean "funny", in classical terms, it's just a story in which the protagonist wins in the end. A lot of movies that weren't purely "funny" won me over with some other type of charm.
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Roblo posted:Huh. Thought he wasn't. Meh, it's been a while since I've seen it. If you just watch the movies they barely mention it at the end of Attack of the Clones. I think Sidious calls him it like once.
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I don't think the "always two there are" line was supposed to literally mean there were only two sith lords in the entire universe, just that if Darth Maul was showing his face there were probably more around that they should be worried about
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Rewatched Train to Busan. Amazing movie, but near the end main dude is bitten, he has seen people literally turn within seconds, so time slows down just so he can console and hug his daughter. No! gently caress you, movie, the dude knows he's bitten, get the pregnant woman and his daughter to the safe part of the train, have the adult lock the door, tell daughter he loves her, and loving jump off the train! We don't need loving two minutes of his kid sobbing and begging him to stay. You got seconds, dude, loving get out of there! Movies do that so often for the protagonists. I still wish they had done more with the deer in the beginning.
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flavor.flv posted:I don't think the "always two there are" line was supposed to literally mean there were only two sith lords in the entire universe, just that if Darth Maul was showing his face there were probably more around that they should be worried about it does literally mean that. a thousand years before the movies, Darth Bane destroyed the Sith Brotherhood of the time and implemented the Rule of Two, stating that there were only ever to be two Sith Lords at a time, because he believed that having more would inevitably lead back to the same infighting that plagued the Brotherhood. after a failed first apprentice, he eventually took Exar Kun as his apprentice and there was an unbroken line of single master+single apprentice all the way down to Sidious and Vader. once both Sidious and Vader were dead, the Sith were completely extinct. it was also a tenet of the Rule of Two that the apprentice couldn't become the master without killing their master, because the longer a Sith lives, the more corrupted they become by the Dark Side, and the apprentice is expected to be capable of killing the master to prove they're worthy to take up the mantle. Sidious, by killing Plagueis, was simply obeying his ideology. Darth Bane was first mentioned in the novelization of The Phantom Menace, so even at the time it was intended literally.
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What about Dooku and Ventress? That's a second master and apprentice right there. And what about Maul? He's still running around on robot legs in the books and tv shows the whole time
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