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Ok, so cheating an attacker into play doesn't satisfy the qualification of 'having attacked' for Boast abilities. Is that a 'just in this case' deal or does it apply to other situations like 'destroy any creature that didn't attack this turn' effects?
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Jan 23, 2022 04:23
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Ok, so cheating an attacker into play doesn't satisfy the qualification of 'having attacked' for Boast abilities. Is that a 'just in this case' deal or does it apply to other situations like 'destroy any creature that didn't attack this turn' effects? Not answering your question, but apropos of this, I love how they used to print the Rulebook directly on cards Lure quote:All creatures able to block target creature must do so. If a creature has the ability to block more than one creature, Lure does not prevent this. If there is more than one attacking creature with Lure, defender may choose which of them each defending creature blocks.
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Jan 23, 2022 04:30
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Ok, so cheating an attacker into play doesn't satisfy the qualification of 'having attacked' for Boast abilities. Is that a 'just in this case' deal or does it apply to other situations like 'destroy any creature that didn't attack this turn' effects? If a creature wasn't declared as an attacker, it doesn't get counted as an attacker for effects that count attacking creatures.
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Jan 23, 2022 08:55
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Ok, so cheating an attacker into play doesn't satisfy the qualification of 'having attacked' for Boast abilities. Is that a 'just in this case' deal or does it apply to other situations like 'destroy any creature that didn't attack this turn' effects? Correct: Ninjas, being masters of stealth do not brag about their exploits. They attacked for the pay, not so they could go to a tavern and activate an ability. The biggest use-case for put into play attacking is that if someone is forcing you to attack something, you can ignore it. And to get out from under cards like Ensnaring Bridge. For example, Gideon Jura has a +2 ability that says all of target opponent's creatures must attack it next turn. If you had a Hero of Bladehold, which put two tokens into play attacking when it attacked, those tokens could still attack the player. For another example, Your opponent has zero cards in hand and an Ensnaring Bridge on the table. You can still attack them with your Aegis Turtle (a 0/5) and then ninjuitsu in Emrakul when they smugly refuse to block your turtle.
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Jan 23, 2022 13:54
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So it's easiest to think of 'Attacking' as a status that can only be applied in the Declare Attacker step. If I ninjitsu in a creature I can't target it with Raze the Effigy but my opponent also can't hit it with Rebuke.
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Jan 23, 2022 18:43
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That's not quite right, an "attacking" creature as the game sees it, means any creature in the red zone during the combat phase. A creature that "attacked" is one that got declared as an attacker during the declare attackers step.
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Jan 23, 2022 18:50
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508.4. If a creature is put onto the battlefield attacking, its controller chooses which defending player or which planeswalker a defending player controls it's attacking as it enters the battlefield (unless the effect that put it onto the battlefield specifies what it's attacking). Similarly, if an effect states that a creature is attacking, its controller chooses which defending player or which planeswalker a defending player controls it's attacking it becomes attacking (unless the effect has already specified). Such creatures are "attacking" but, for the purposes of trigger events and effects, they never "attacked." Rebuke away.
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Jan 23, 2022 19:13
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So it's easiest to think of 'Attacking' as a status that can only be applied in the Declare Attacker step. If I ninjitsu in a creature I can't target it with Raze the Effigy but my opponent also can't hit it with Rebuke. Yes but "AttackED", not attacking. You can target with both rebuke and Raze, ...And you'll transform it if it's a Homicidal Brute
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'Attacking,' the adjective, means that a creature is in the red zone. The verb 'attack' means that a creature has changed from a non-attacking creature to an attacking creature. It's the transition that is important to determine if a creature has attacked. You can also think of abilities that trigger on creature attacks as like there is a security camera pointed at exactly the edge of the red zone. It can see creatures that aren't attacking move in, but if a creature is born in the red zone, the camera doesn't see it.
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Jan 23, 2022 20:22
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Ok what if your playing a 3 player game and one opponent has blazing archon and I attack the 3rd player with my hero of bladehold. Can I put the tokens in attacking the opponent with the archon?
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Jan 23, 2022 20:59
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The Nastier Nate posted:Ok what if your playing a 3 player game and one opponent has blazing archon and I attack the 3rd player with my hero of bladehold. Can I put the tokens in attacking the opponent with the archon? Yes
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Jan 23, 2022 21:06
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bring back both Bury and Banding
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Jan 23, 2022 22:14
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https://twitter.com/mtggoldfish/status/1485297233692016640?s=21
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Jan 24, 2022 02:13
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Played my first competative pioneer since 2020, joined a league on MTGO with Orzhov vampires and got a 2-0 win over I think Naya Winota? I didn't see her until game 2 and it didn't seem to get many hits from non-humans attacking, maybe just Brutal Cathars. Did go to my last minute of time without a game 3 though, so that's a worry. I needed to cast Champion of Dusk to draw into a Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord so I could then attack wide enough to get a point in, then cast him to Bitening Helix for the win. Don't really know where the time all goes.
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Jan 24, 2022 03:22
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Jan 24, 2022 03:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_OqQb6s8qk the YGO guy came back for another round, this time he actually has someone in call who knows magic to answer questions.
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Jan 24, 2022 06:27
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A big flaming stink posted:Cringe That’s pretty funny, settle down
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Jan 24, 2022 06:35
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TheKingofSprings posted:That’s pretty funny, settle down nah
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TheKingofSprings posted:That’s pretty funny, settle down It's just several weeks too late, because if you don't have reactions hours after the event you might as well not bother
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joke would work better if they emphasized the "nerf" aspect by making it sound like a nerf gun rather than a real gun. also yeah if they released it around the time alchemy was introduced... but i guess animation takes time so what're you gonna do ----- tomorrow (monday) is maro's list of clues... then tuesday is the ban list announcement and thursday is the start of spoiler season
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That is some strong family guy energy from that.
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Yeah that cartoon is extremely 2000s CAD-comic style humor
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Hahaha he shoots the cat with a NERF gun, get it?!?
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Jan 24, 2022 14:29
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Leak of the dragon cycle.
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LibrarianCroaker posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_OqQb6s8qk His magic guy keeps falling into the trap of assuming "part of a combo" means "good" Colossus Hammer, Golgari Grave Troll, Creeping Chill are combo pieces. They're not good cards.
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Jan 24, 2022 14:52
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What is a good card, then?
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HootTheOwl posted:His magic guy keeps falling into the trap of assuming "part of a combo" means "good" I’d argue Golgari Grave Troll as good due to how broken it is as a combo piece, to be fair. Dredge is absurd.
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YggdrasilTM posted:What is a good card, then? A card that's playable on it's own with low deck building concessions. Like Ragavan the concession is "play red" The concession on GGT is "your entire deck must function in the GY" Like I think we'd agree that Mycosynth Lattice isn't a good card even though it instantly ends a game when it resolves.
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YggdrasilTM posted:Leak of the dragon cycle. I love how the white one can put any number of <=4 permanents out of 7 cards onto the battlefield but the green one gets you 3 basics to hand. edit- Oh, it's lands, not basics. That's better but still lol GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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GonSmithe posted:I love how the white one can put any number of <=4 permanents onto the battlefield but the green one gets you 3 basics to hand. It's a combined cost of 4, so infinite memnites, but only 1 Frogmite
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Oh no, the green one might not be the best one of the cycle. The terror. Iol Aggro much 
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HootTheOwl posted:It's a combined cost of 4, so infinite memnites, but only 1 Frogmite Sickening posted:Oh no, the green one might not be the best one if the cycle. The terror. Oh no, someone in the Magic thread discussing cards and how one might be better than the other. The terror. Sorry people made fun of the cringe video you posted man, how about you let me misread new spoiled cards and make judgements based on those misreads like everyone else always does
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Jan 24, 2022 15:06
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GonSmithe posted:I can't read. Didn't see "total." Neither can I, hard to find infinite memnites off the top 7. I <3 spoiler season.
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YggdrasilTM posted:Leak of the dragon cycle. like I said, ultrabombs
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HootTheOwl posted:A card that's playable on it's own with low deck building concessions. Maro Teaser: quote:First up, here are some things you can expect: YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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GonSmithe posted:I love how the white one can put any number of <=4 permanents out of 7 cards onto the battlefield but the green one gets you 3 basics to hand. The green one should've been 2 lands tapped to the battlefield from the top 7. Goa Tse-tung posted:like I said, ultrabombs Ehh none of these are as busted as Avabrook Caretaker or Glorybringer
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Let the white one put lands in wotc you cowards
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YggdrasilTM posted:• a black instant with “Destroy target creature or planeswalker” that can be cast for two mana Did black really need more cheap(er) removal?
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