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Russian Bear posted:Surely you mean B58. There was a lot done to the B58 to make it reliable. They got rid of or shielded a lot of the plastic bits that were loving up due to heat etc. So while it probably won't do 300,000 miles I suspect you'll comfortably be able to reach 200,000 with only 20% higher maintenance costs because it's a BMW.
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davecrazy posted:I don't quite get this. The 7 series and S class both come in a V12. Not to mention Bentley and Rolls.
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It's absolutely both. I've never lived anywhere near "be chauffeured around" money and I see way too many of those every day. There's one always parked out front of a local pizza chain with supposed ties to organized crime in my area, too, so I guess it has use as a pizza delivery vehicle too 
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KillHour posted:The 7 series and S class both come in a V12. Not to mention Bentley and Rolls. V12 is a big cost premium to have a smoother engine, right? You can make a V8 make as much power as you need, so the V12 is just about that inherent balance, as well as more cylinders to make power delivery smoother. Seems like a winner for getting driven around in too.
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Sab669 posted:It's absolutely both. I've never lived anywhere near "be chauffeured around" money and I see way too many of those every day. Understatement of the century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_crime_family La Nova does have good blue cheese though. Twerk from Home posted:V12 is a big cost premium to have a smoother engine, right? You can make a V8 make as much power as you need, so the V12 is just about that inherent balance, as well as more cylinders to make power delivery smoother. Seems like a winner for getting driven around in too. As a V12 owner, a V12 is about having a V12 badge on the side of your 6 figure car.
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I took a long look at the Escalade, Grand Wagoner and Navigator before I decided to drop down a segment and get the SRT Durango. I always felt the experience was better in the passenger seat or back seat then up front when I was in one of the full sized luxury SUVs. That said if I ever decide to move up to the full size lux SUV I'll get the Grand Wagoner. That thing was nice. davecrazy fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 21, 2022 |
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Also what's the deal with the shark fine antenna thing offcenter / over the driver's seat? That bugs me so much.
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Sab669 posted:Also what's the deal with the shark fine antenna thing offcenter / over the driver's seat? Sat radio and GPS receiver
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davecrazy posted:I don't quite get this. its always been the leader in the 'more money than sense' class
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Sab669 posted:Also what's the deal with the shark fine antenna thing offcenter / over the driver's seat? It is a flag mounting bracket for an extremely large american flag from aliexpress
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skipdogg posted:Sat radio and GPS receiver Right but why is it offcenter lol
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Sab669 posted:Right but why is it offcenter lol Making it closer to the head unit cpu for reduced interference? 
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Sab669 posted:Right but why is it offcenter lol I've heard it's for cost savings. Save 5 cents on wire per vehicle kind of thing. It's the same on all the trucks too.
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Well my simple lizard brain hates asymmetry like that lol.
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put a fake one on the other side, problem solved
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Proud Christian Mom posted:its always been the leader in the 'more money than sense' class Same reason why you tend to see more G63s than G550s
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Sab669 posted:Right but why is it offcenter lol You can't put the antenna where the sunroof goes.
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Cars are inherently asymmetric anyway, unless you are a McLaren F1.
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I don't really care that much about symmetry but I could never do a Veloster. That door thing is just too weird for me.
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That doesn't bother me at all. I either access my car through the driver door or the hatch so
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We need more asymmetric cars.
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Sab669 posted:Also what's the deal with the shark fine antenna thing offcenter / over the driver's seat?
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its better than putting it smack bang in the middle of the roof and preventing you using the roof racks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGRuIOp4jUcquote:All-new 2022 Ford Bronco® Raptor™, designed and engineered by Ford Performance to be the world’s first Ultra4 Racing-inspired SUV, is capable of highway-speed desert-dune conquering and Baja rock-crawling https://twitter.com/phoebesaid/status/1485572227663904770?s=21
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10 inches wider. Woah. If I had a bronco Id want that grill. And engine. But the rest...meh.
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Lol they can't even get normal Broncos built. This thing is gonna be 100k at every dealer that manages to get one.
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My downtown garage weeps at the thought of trying to fit that in.
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Ford isn't taking any more orders on the Maverick because the order backlog is so long. Two interesting quotes from the article: "Most Mavericks are selling in the mid- to high-$20,000 range, Mr. Lemley said. 'We desperately needed something in that price range,' he said." "Chris Goeschel, an executive at a Las Vegas Ford dealership, said he has seen strong demand from local business owners, including electricians or pool-maintenance companies, for Maverick models in the mid-$20,000s."
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BrownieVK posted:Lol they can't even get normal Broncos built. This thing is gonna be 100k at every dealer that manages to get one. building these will absolute replace build of some number of normal Broncos. Ford knows where the money's at
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I never see actual tradespeople using pickups here in Chicago. It's all white van men. Is one of the primary issues weather? If you're an electrician for example like they mentioned, how are you leaving tools and equipment in a pickup bed? The only time I see pickups used for trades is for roadworks like snow removal or salting. So in the winter it seems they all come out all of a sudden.
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Inner Light posted:I never see actual tradespeople using pickups here in Chicago. It's all white van men. Is one of the primary issues weather? If you're an electrician for example like they mentioned, how are you leaving tools and equipment in a pickup bed? The article is quoting someone from Las Vegas. Where it rains like, what, two days a year there? But yea I'm not sure what features something like the Maverick offers over a Transit
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Sab669 posted:The article is quoting someone from Las Vegas. Where it rains like, what, two days a year there? Hybrid offers 42 mpg in the city, if you don't need a huge van just to cart some tools around with a cover on the bed, or put your stuff on drawer sliders I guess it's a good choice? I want one, but I'm holding out for the new Ranger to see what they're offering - would be worth it to me to have 7500 lb tow capacity.
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A tonneau cover for a work pickup is great. I had a soft rollup one on my '05 Dakota when I was flipping houses in the mid aughts.
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davecrazy posted:A tonneau cover for a work pickup is great. I had a soft rollup one on my '05 Dakota when I was flipping houses in the mid aughts. But what advantage does this have over a covered van all other things equal? Or maybe the van is even a little bit cheaper since trucks have a premium attached?
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Inner Light posted:But what advantage does this have over a covered van all other things equal? Or maybe the van is even a little bit cheaper since trucks have a premium attached? A van would have more space. A regular tonneau cover is just flat over the bed of a truck.
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The one advantage I can think of is not wanting to be in the same enclosed space as some of the stuff you're using. Like I can see pool guys preferring trucks to vans because they don't want to drive around all day inhaling chlorine tablet and other chemical fumes.
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BrownieVK posted:Lol they can't even get normal Broncos built. This thing is gonna be 100k at every dealer that manages to get one. That's exactly what I was thinking when I read that tweet. Good luck finding that thing for anything less than 6 figures.
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All the pool guys in Vegas drive ancient rangers full of chemicals and pump units on hand trucks. They could never get away with a van. The electricians also drive old rangers, but some also drive full size (electricians here are always hauling large palletized equipment for some reason).
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