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Bruceski posted:For some reason I read goofy as skateboard slang and now I want to put my hotbars backwards as a stylistic gimmick. Combo buttons running right to left and poo poo. I mean starting with your index finger might not be the worst idea 
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Dark Blizzard wouldn't make sense, because it's explicitly used to balance the astral/dark energy of the fire spells. "Void" might fit better, but since it's giving you packets of umbral power that are somehow stabilized so as to be able to coexist with an overall astral aspect it could still fit. Ice trends umbral even if a demon's conjuring it! Also, visually, Fire IV and Blizzard IV are both characterized by a hanging circle of violet foxfire that the explosion and/or glacial chunk materializes in and then drops out of, so they're clearly black magic in some deeper sense than your typical elemental blast.
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Zomborgon posted:Eh, you're a black mage whose friends spend half their time cackling about the abyss, who's gonna stop you from being a bit inaccurate in service of being more chuuni I mean, the Black Mages in the job quest don't do that, they spend all their time killing Voidsent because they loving hate Voidsent. If you want to count by the amount of creatures of pure darkness we murder, we're way holier than the Paladins. To be honest I don't think any kind of Void or Dark theming would really make much sense at all! We're not Reapers here. There is not a single Void or Dark themed spell in the entire kit. Edit: I would not mind using Optimized Fire III like Omega though. Or True Fire like the Ancients. Clarste fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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I enjoy how Black Mage seems to be all about the aesthetics of being dark and edgy without actually being dark or edgy. Like you get a spell called Despair, which you'd expect to be this super dark, bleak, awful spell, but it's actually just a "what if I did fire, but even BIGGER fire??", functionally single-target Flare. It's great. Or Foul--sounds like it's going to be all about corruption, poison, and decay, but it's just "big aether make spell go boom" Black Mages rule Black Mages: "Mwahahaha! We're so evil and dark! Behold our unholy magicks of the void: 'what if fire spell was big and went boom'"
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Clarste posted:I mean, the Black Mages in the job quest don't do that, they spend all their time killing Voidsent because they loving hate Voidsent. Isn't a big reveal towards the end of the ARR questline something like "ohhh dude all this black magic we've been doing w/r/t blood and void rifts is for SUMMONING demons not banishing them. That makes a lot of sense in retrospect" Edit: I think Foul is best understood as A) the reverse of "Holy" and B) an Enochian swear word Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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Harrow posted:I enjoy how Black Mage seems to be all about the aesthetics of being dark and edgy without actually being dark or edgy. Like you get a spell called Despair, which you'd expect to be this super dark, bleak, awful spell, but it's actually just a "what if I did fire, but even BIGGER fire??", functionally single-target Flare. It's great. Or Foul--sounds like it's going to be all about corruption, poison, and decay, but it's just "big aether make spell go boom" I would call being exploded with a very big fire sort of despair inducing
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hazardousmouse posted:... youve hosed up mate
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Ferrinus posted:Edit: I think Foul is best understood as A) the reverse of "Holy" and B) an Enochian swear word Level 70 Black Mage: "Hey guys, check it out, I learned how to swear in Enochian: ḥ̵̟͙͇͚̥̉̀́̊͛̿͆̉e̴͍̩̲͆͒̈́́̍͝c̸̣̲̞̰̘͎̣̬͠k̵̯̞͎̆̏̀̏̌"
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Regy Rusty posted:youve hosed up mate Ack, it reduced your HP! Quick, click off that status effect!
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Ferrinus posted:Ack, it reduced your HP! Quick, click off that status effect! 
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In other Black Mage news, I complained about it enough that I crossed over to the other side and now I love it. Been doing dungeons with it to level from 80-90 and getting owned by boss mechanics because I keep tunnel visioning to get in one more Fire IV just let me cast gently caress you and honestly having a good time
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Harrow posted:Level 70 Black Mage: "Hey guys, check it out, I learned how to swear in Enochian: ḥ̵̟͙͇͚̥̉̀́̊͛̿͆̉e̴͍̩̲͆͒̈́́̍͝c̸̣̲̞̰̘͎̣̬͠k̵̯̞͎̆̏̀̏̌" If it were a black magic spell in a PSX FF, Paradox would be a 20-second cut scene of a star emerging from a black hole and then landing on the enemy. For FFXIV Black Mages, it just attacks enemies with Antipode
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Harrow posted:In other Black Mage news, I complained about it enough that I crossed over to the other side and now I love it. Been doing dungeons with it to level from 80-90 and getting owned by boss mechanics because I keep tunnel visioning to get in one more Fire IV just let me cast gently caress you and honestly having a good time As a healer I start off each dungeon assuming the black mage will be the greediest son of a bitch this side of the Syndicate and prep accordingly.  I've literally taurocholed black mages before so they can just sit there and nuke. I figure it makes their day.
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I have been learning monk and I feel like it's the BLM of melee --- "just one more hit, then I can blitz and go!"
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OddObserver posted:I have been learning monk and I feel like it's the BLM of melee --- "just one more hit, then I can blitz and go!" Also because it seems like it's the one with the biggest array of choices to make at any moment while variously-aligned timers are structuring which choice is currently best.
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Harrow posted:In other Black Mage news, I complained about it enough that I crossed over to the other side and now I love it. Been doing dungeons with it to level from 80-90 and getting owned by boss mechanics because I keep tunnel visioning to get in one more Fire IV just let me cast gently caress you and honestly having a good time Ha ha...YES
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Harrow posted:In other Black Mage news, I complained about it enough that I crossed over to the other side and now I love it. Been doing dungeons with it to level from 80-90 and getting owned by boss mechanics because I keep tunnel visioning to get in one more Fire IV just let me cast gently caress you and honestly having a good time  Join us…
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Kyrosiris posted:As a healer I start off each dungeon assuming the black mage will be the greediest son of a bitch this side of the Syndicate and prep accordingly. Y'know part of me wonders if this is a completely intentional thing with how the job is designed. It's very appropriate that black magic incentivizes you to do dangerous, short-sighted things (like place your ley lines down and refuse to move until you get one last cast and now oh poo poo you have to move but you need to cast Fire or you'll drop AF gently caress!!!!) in pursuit of power.
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Harrow posted:Y'know part of me wonders if this is a completely intentional thing with how the job is designed. It's very appropriate that black magic incentivizes you to do dangerous, short-sighted things (like place your ley lines down and refuse to move until you get one last cast and now oh poo poo you have to move but you need to cast Fire or you'll drop AF gently caress!!!!) in pursuit of power. This has gotta be a purposeful thing. Black Mage is an excellent wizard-gone-mad-with-power simulator. Will your own hubris be the end of you? Who knows! Maybe! Dare you take that risk??? It's my favorite class to play right now, and I think it's got just the right amount of potential mobility options once you're in the groove and know your fights.
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Harrow posted:Y'know part of me wonders if this is a completely intentional thing with how the job is designed. It's very appropriate that black magic incentivizes you to do dangerous, short-sighted things (like place your ley lines down and refuse to move until you get one last cast and now oh poo poo you have to move but you need to cast Fire or you'll drop AF gently caress!!!!) in pursuit of power. The best Black Mages seem to be equal parts cackling mad scientist and literal clairvoyant, so yeah, probably. They're always interesting to watch, if nothing else. I remember doing a Shadowbringers EX trial where we had a Black Mage that would wait for the other DPS to resolve a mechanic, aetherial manipulation to one of them, and between the lines back to their ley lines, not missing a beat. It was the most Black Mage thing I'd ever seen. (ShB trial spoilers) Specifically, Titania EX and the vines. The sheer gall it took for them to be like "yeah move for me, bitch" and have it work was delightful.
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I wonder if part of my problem with my playing blm is that I feel like a bad human being if I get hit, rather than 'oh, I still have one hp left, that's fine'.
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I've turned around so completely on this job that I've gone from really hating it and only leveling it because I wanted to level everything, to thinking every FFXIV player should level it and do at least a couple trials or normal raids with it. Nothing forces you to learn a fight, really memorize it, like needing to know exactly when and where you can place your ley lines, or when you need to hold onto a charge of Triplecast for movement or when you can burn it for more DPS. Well, extreme trials and savage raids don't really give you a choice but to actually learn and memorize a fight no matter what job you're playing, but Black Mage kinda forces you into that mindset in any content, and it's pretty fun. You start to actually feel like a goddamn wizard when you can do an encounter with a bare minimum of movement. Kyrosiris posted:The best Black Mages seem to be equal parts cackling mad scientist and literal clairvoyant, so yeah, probably. I can only aspire to such arcane heights... 
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They should have a trait that stops damage from interrupting casts unless it knocks you back or kills you
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I mean, there is an ability that does most of that, including stopping the knockback Lol they should rename it "Hubris"
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Leraika posted:I wonder if part of my problem with my playing blm is that I feel like a bad human being if I get hit, rather than 'oh, I still have one hp left, that's fine'. H E A L E R S A D J U S T
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FeatherFloat posted:This has gotta be a purposeful thing. Black Mage is an excellent wizard-gone-mad-with-power simulator. Will your own hubris be the end of you? Who knows! Maybe! Dare you take that risk??? It's my favorite class to play right now, and I think it's got just the right amount of potential mobility options once you're in the groove and know your fights. I've had tanks get mad at me because I'm basically sitting next to them when they and I both know that the next thing the boss is going to do is an AoE tank buster, and, yeah, I could use a Xeno or a Swiftcast or something to move right now, but I'm saving that Xeno for the next mechanic and anyway I just have two more Fire IVs and a Despair left in this astral cycle before I can swap to umbral and then use Paradox to calmly stroll to safety a comfy 3 or 4 seconds before the tankbuster actually finishes casting so just chill out, dude, I've got this.
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Regy Rusty posted:H E A L E R S Now casting (raise) on <t>
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brand engager posted:They should have a trait that stops damage from interrupting casts unless it knocks you back or kills you Add a trait that prevents death from interrupting your cast, and a spell that finishes casting after you die gets +100% potency. Healers Adjust, indeed.
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hazardousmouse posted:I mean, there is an ability that does most of that, including stopping the knockback "Uhhh dude are you surecast"
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Even playing Black Mage at low levels I've had friends yell at me for being on the wrong side of the arena casting Fire IV before I teleport over to them at the last second and make them feel dumb
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Ferrinus posted:"Uhhh dude are you surecast" Ah gently caress, I love it. Both question and answer in one succinct line
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Ferrinus posted:I've had tanks get mad at me because I'm basically sitting next to them when they and I both know that the next thing the boss is going to do is an AoE tank buster, and, yeah, I could use a Xeno or a Swiftcast or something to move right now, but I'm saving that Xeno for the next mechanic and anyway I just have two more Fire IVs and a Despair left in this astral cycle before I can swap to umbral and then use Paradox to calmly stroll to safety a comfy 3 or 4 seconds before the tankbuster actually finishes casting so just chill out, dude, I've got this. The tank should move imo.
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Aetherial Manipulation is the perfect "Yes, AND?" button
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Tanks work off of naval rules. They're bigger, they have the right of way.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Tanks work off of naval rules. They're bigger, they have the right of way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landship#Military_vehicles
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Runa posted:Aetherial Manipulation is the perfect "Yes, AND?" button
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Just make Aetherial Manipulation zip you to the boss as well Edit: oh right, 10 sec cool down is the perk and party members only tax compared to what DNC/SGE/MNK has, but I don’t care, let me slide MechaX fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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Clarste posted:The tank should move imo. I imagine he doesn't want to get any closer to the rest of the party (as they are on the back of the boss, but a mechanic has left me sitting somewhere north of the boss, a little past the MT's back) or accidentally turn the boss and screw up anybody's positionals. But he also doesn't have to because I'm going to move of my own volition! Just, you know, a little later. In due season. C'monnnn, just five minuuuutes Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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I’m actually really interested in trying BLM now! I may leveling that once I’m done with WAR
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