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Julie Creswell, who writes the economic trend pieces at the New York Times has apparently just been searching "Food Prices" on Twitter, finding random people who complained, and then asking them for quotes. This has led to them publishing a story about the devastating effect of a Chipotle Burrito rising 75 cents in price has on the life of a Chicago Stock Options Trader who makes over $1.2 million per year. https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1484909170474246148 This is the guy from the article and the tweet that prompted the New York Times to write the story: https://twitter.com/JamesMarsh79/status/1480995777166123009 The writer is paid $110,000 per year to write this.
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is Palin getting dark money funding from someone that wants to kill the NYT? Ever since that stuff about Thiel helping Hulk destroy that semigossip rag whateveritsname came out I feel like any libel or slander suit that gets legs seems iffy. e: also please let this be the timeline where she also gets hammered for a fake vac card.
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PhazonLink posted:is Palin getting dark money funding from someone that wants to kill the NYT? Ever since that stuff about Thiel helping Hulk destroy that semigossip rag whateveritsname came out I feel like any libel or slander suit that gets legs seems iffy. Gawker I feel like the New York Times has a better legal team, deeper pockets, and way less vulnerability to libel suits, though
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I don't think NYT is in the business of publishing revenge porn either. Official state department talking points, sure, but I'm failing to recall any examples of them nonconsentually posting someone's whole hog and oysters.
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PhazonLink posted:is Palin getting dark money funding from someone that wants to kill the NYT? Ever since that stuff about Thiel helping Hulk destroy that semigossip rag whateveritsname came out I feel like any libel or slander suit that gets legs seems iffy. You don't need dark money to pay for legal fees. Dark money is just political donations through a 501(c) organization that doesn't have to disclose its donors. This is going to be nearly impossible for Palin to win anyway. She is a public figure, it's a media organization, she can't demonstrate financial damages, and she doesn't have evidence it was done maliciously.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
With the implication being that the workers at Chipotle are not worth $15/hr
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DOW is currently down 1,000+ in a single day so far, wowsers!
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Willa Rogers posted:Sarah Palin filed a This actually came up in the Right Wing Media thread recently after Jesse Waters made some remark that was like "heh wouldn't it be awesome if you started shooting people in the face... with the truth" I mean look at this poo poo, it speaks for itself. I hope Palin gets loving wrecked by this lawsuit. 
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I honestly forgot Sarah Palin even existed.
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The markets are just loving this Russia stuff 😳
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It’s possible Palin isn’t even fully aware what’s going on with this lawsuit and is just being led by the nose by some monied interest.
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CommieGIR posted:The main issue is the hashed and rehashed primary chat. Again, if your fear is that discourse will die in a dedicated US Primary thread, then is there really that much interest? Fair enough, but while I have your attention: CommieGIR posted:
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cr0y posted:The markets are just loving this Russia stuff 😳 Number go... down? Crypto seems to be taking a well deserved poo poo too.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Fair enough, but while I have your attention: Its about child labour, not the COVID issues. Which is an increasingly common way that the US is addressing labor """shortages""" Much like Biden positing that Teens could solve the trucking shortages which don't exist: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/safe-driver-teenage-truckers_n_61e1cf12e4b01f707da2fb3b Time had a good article why the supposed shortage isn't a real thing, but is instead an attempt to drive trucking labor costs down: https://time.com/6116853/truck-driver-shortage-supply-chain Also: You get a pass this time, do poo poo like this again, eat a probe. Its not helpful. Its not funny. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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FWIW in the Covid thread I have actually asked that tertiary US stuff related to Covid etc. remain here in the USCE thread, as I would like the Covid thread to continue to remain more international and not get bogged down into all USA all the time. Obviously people discuss it and when it's more directly related to Covid measures it's good, but it is something I have specifically addressed with the other mods.
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Willa Rogers posted:Is there any way we could get a list of non-sanctioned, done-to-death topics? Or perhaps the criteria used to determine them? Greetings. There can't be a list of topics that are too played out, because any subject could theoretically be interesting if new information came to light about it, or someone offered a completely original take. If a mod urges everyone to move on, it's because they've judged both of those things are unlikely. Of course, what is interesting is subjective, but we try to use the reasonable standard of whether an idea is likely to have been encountered multiple times before by a person who reads a fair amount of online discourse, particularly that adjacent to the SA forums. As for a feedback thread, I was going to make one this Friday, so everyone will have had a few weeks to see the changes. If you'd like an in-depth discussion about how we moderate tedious topics and arguments, that would be the place, or you can PM me as well if you'd prefer not to wait.
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PhazonLink posted:is Palin getting dark money funding from someone that wants to kill the NYT? Ever since that stuff about Thiel helping Hulk destroy that semigossip rag whateveritsname came out I feel like any libel or slander suit that gets legs seems iffy. I think the real takeaway from the Hulk Hogan story ought to be how the courts system is so borked that even a wealthy and famous dude couldn't meaningfully challenge a large corporation without the backing of a guy with Scrooge McDuck-levels of cash and a personal vendetta.
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1485633186256273409 Is this just typical Russian sabre rattling, or would they actually deploy forces and missiles to Venezuela and Cuba?
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1485633186256273409 Its saber rattling. There's no indication Cuba actually wants this, nor would it really change anything? Russia already parks Nuclear armed Subs off the US coast, and no army is going to invade the US from Cuba (not to mention that's not the point of NATO anyways which is part of what Putin is upset about anyways) Its just Putin trying to look big and bad. Russia already tried the appeasement method with the US by arresting REvil ransomware operators to get them to back off on Ukraine. And Putin also already knows his demands are never going to be met.
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1485633186256273409 In general, the international read on Russia is a regional power with a large but aging military that wouldn't really keep up in a modern conflict. And a flagging economy. So that Putin needs to keep pumping nationalism and wars in order to maintain his power at home and distract people from how much it sucks to be Russian right now. So probably sabre-rattling but he has to at least sound serious about it or it becomes obvious that it's sabre-rattling.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Julie Creswell, who writes the economic trend pieces at the New York Times has apparently just been searching "Food Prices" on Twitter, finding random people who complained, and then asking them for quotes. My favorite detail is that the guy admitted he only goes to Chipotle 5 times a year, so it's only an extra $2.50 or so a year. With how much he makes each day, the time it took to go there and walk out is worth far more than that. But he probably wanted to make a show of it (to overworked employees that definitely don't give a poo poo). Incredible that they couldn't even be bothered to find some rich jackass who goes to Chipotle multiple times a week. Anecdotally I know some conservative relatives who whine about increasing fast food prices despite only going a few times a year (including one who saves the receipts to reference the next time he goes), and they all make a lot more money than I do so it's just an observation that stuck out to me haha.
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Koos Group posted:As for a feedback thread, I was going to make one this Friday, so everyone will have had a few weeks to see the changes. If you'd like an in-depth discussion about how we moderate tedious topics and arguments, that would be the place, or you can PM me as well if you'd prefer not to wait. Wonderful; thanks!
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A friend of mine sent me this article about Wisconsin health care workers were being barred via court order from starting a new job. This all seems really hosed up that a judge is able to block employees from leaving a company for another one that offers better pay and benefits. This really seems like a Slapp-type lawsuit to prevent workers from actually taking control of their lives. Basically it seems like the gist is that some healthcare workers got fed up with the conditions at their current job and sought employment elsewhere. They found another company that offered better pay, benefits, and life balance, so they accepted. The company they were leaving threw a shitfit and got an injunction to stop them from working at the new company until it is determined whether or not these employees were "poached," which going by the last lines of the article, it sounds like the employees did this purely voluntarily. They even notified their current employer about the offer then they were told that it wasn't worth it to counter. https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2022/01/21/what-we-know-ascension-thedacare-court-battle-over-employees/6607417001/ Whole article quoted because it does the "limited articles per month" thing. Bolding mine. quote:What to know about the battle over Wisconsin health care workers now playing out in court
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Velocity Raptor posted:A friend of mine sent me this article about Wisconsin health care workers were being barred via court order from starting a new job. The free market for me but not for thee.
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Velocity Raptor posted:A friend of mine sent me this article about Wisconsin health care workers were being barred via court order from starting a new job. Yeah I saw this, and its a concerning development that this might become more common in Right to Work states. At this point its returning to the age of indentured servitude. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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Right to Wing is a pretty good freudian slip/typo or smart keyboard mistake.
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PhazonLink posted:Right to Wing is a pretty good freudian slip/typo or smart keyboard mistake. Agreed, I like it.
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CommieGIR posted:Its about child labour, not the COVID issues. Which is an increasingly common way that the US is addressing labor """shortages""" This article says there's no shortage but then goes in depth on all the reasons there's a shortage. Calling it a retention problem does not make it not a shortage, the retention problem is arguably the biggest reason there's a shortage. It strikes me as a tortured gotcha in service of making a contrarian point about working conditions, which isn't actually contrarian at all because #1 on the list of reasons of anyone who's studied the shortage is going to be poor working conditions/lifestyle. It just strikes me as obnoxious. If someone points out a shortage of agricultural workers during harvest you wouldn't respond with "well actually, the shortage is fake because there are plenty of people who are physically capable of picking crops  ", because no poo poo. No one involved in the problem on any side thinks the issue is we literally have no one capable of driving trucks.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah I saw this, and its a concerning development that this might become more common in Right to Work states. At this point its returning to the age of indentured servitude. This isn’t a concerning development, this is a post your bosses address to the union chat server development. This is something nobody with a healthy respect for their workers borne of the understanding that there are more of them than you would even attempt. This requires worker militancy.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah I saw this, and its a concerning development that this might become more common in Right to Work states. At this point its returning to the age of indentured servitude. This is more of an At-Will thing than Right To Work, isn't it?
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https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1485612824583888898you gotta be making GBS threads me posted:when bridges don’t have weight restrictions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUu0FWlMpgk 
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StratGoatCom posted:https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1485612824583888898 "On the next episode of Well There's Your Problem..." christmas boots posted:This is more of an At-Will thing than Right To Work, isn't it? True, thanks for the correction.
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Yeah, right-to‐work is the anti-union bullshit right wing law (no closed union shops). One commentator I read about this situation said imagine the converse, that a judge in an at-will state would rule that the hospital couldn't fire someone until they'd found a new job.
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christmas boots posted:This is more of an At-Will thing than Right To Work, isn't it? Yeah, from what I'm able to find, Wisconsin is a At-Will employment state. The employees left because they weren't happy with the current company, and the company gets pissed and goes crying to the courts. If this kind of thing is possible, I wonder if I get fired from a job if I can go crying to the courts and have them force the company to retain me until I can find a suitable replacement job. Who am I kidding, I'm not rich. I actually have to live with consequences instead of enforcing victory. Related, here's Leonard French's analysis on this whole thing. Pretty interesting watch. He makes some good points as to why it "makes sense" for the judge to force the injunction, but he seems pretty baffled that this is even a thing in the first place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vo0LPdotbw What's interesting is that he points out that this isn't actually a suit between ThedaCare (the whiny company) and the employees, but rather against Ascension (the hiring company). ThedaCare wants the court to force Ascension to have these employees work for ThedaCare until a suitable replacement is found. The injunction is in place because it's the courts way of saying "hold it until I can figure out what's going on." It's a lovely slapfight between two companies, and as usual, it's the workers who lose. E:  I really hope that's just him misspeaking and what he really means is repair bridges so that weight limits are not a concern. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he really does mean "Safety is slowing us down. Your life is just the cost of doing business." Velocity Raptor fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:"On the next episode of Well There's Your Problem..." https://twitter.com/wtyppod/status/1485679187088359427
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New Michigan state poll has Whitmer up by 5 points for reelection against James Craig. That's the good news. The bad news is that only 41 percent of those polled think she should be reelected, and when it comes to Michigan's current economic situation only 29 percent rate it as excellent or good, while 65 percent rate it as fair or poor. Biden's job-approval rating in the state is underwater by 34 points.  It was a fairly small sample (600 likely voters) and has a MoE of 4 points.
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I want to hear Biden Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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At-will employment was never about "being to leave at will", that was a side effect. It's about being able to fire at will, as that lawsuit makes clear.
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StratGoatCom posted:https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1485612824583888898 He's talking about weight restrictions per axel; not total weight restrictions to prevent bridge collapsing. Those are generally implemented to reduce the cost of maintenance because heavier axels do more damage to pavement. Although, to be fair, I have no idea how much of an impact those restrictions actually make on trucking travel times or the actual supply of available trucks. So, it could still be a nonsense point.
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