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Marzzle posted:snake babe maxwell slurping epsteins entire foot while he makes the ahego face in the private plane footrub photo 
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FFT posted:for instance: how many of Epstein's accusers have loving died? The 727 AirStair precludes many of these as a possibility
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Suplex Liberace posted:i agree with you but im always confused as to why Spacey, he is just an actor not a industrialist or old money. Guess he was just a personality type someone thought they could use or the best of the cold blooded power hungry monsters. it's because he's a cold blooded psychopath, he is literally Keyser Söze irl
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Frosted Flake posted:How did the culture of British Boarding Schools develop wrt to the whole molestation thing? Is it still going on? Corporal punishment was banned by law in private schools between 1998 and 2003 (different times in England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland ) State schools banned it in 86, but it was rare even then. No idea what the rate of noncing is like since then, but probably higher than anyone would like. Pipski has issued a correction as of 04:19 on Jan 23, 2022 |
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Jan 22, 2022 16:37
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spacey is a supreme talent. i saw him carry iceman cometh on his own, blackmailing the queen of england into killing his accusers is small potatos compared to that
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his brother using the language of a vessel is pretty sad. i can't imagine being twisted into a hosed up little puppet that propagates your abuse like some hosed up automoton that's fuelled by human misery but probably best if we retire that perspective from reality on the whole
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I was watching some random episode of one hit wonderland on YouTube and all of a sudden it's talking about Spacey's agent / camera man.. turns out the agent is from some 90s boy band and Spacey is his only client
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theflyingexecutive posted:"at least" lol I just heard about the Franklin scandal so yeah there’s always more
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500excf type r posted:I was watching some random episode of one hit wonderland on YouTube and all of a sudden it's talking about Spacey's agent / camera man.. turns out the agent is from some 90s boy band and Spacey is his only client lmfao i saw that one. todd in the shadows deserves a bigger viewer base. I don't even like the music he does but he's an honest music critic which is just loving unheard of trainwreckords is my poo poo though
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Riot Bimbo posted:lmfao i saw that one. For sure. The most enjoyable episodes are ones for songs/bands/genres I have no knowledge of or interest in prior to watching. Hell I think there was a link from this thread before about the rise and fall of soft jazz which was tangentially related to electronic surveillance but learning about the development and history of the music itself was super fascinating
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I think it's pretty much a metaphysical certitude that geffen is more than just a client. If don henley is calling you because he murdered a fifteen year old and you can and do successfully make that go away, you are decidedly more than just another client.
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Pipski posted:Corporal punishment was banned by law in private schools between 1998 and 2003 (different times in England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland ) Public schools banned it in 86, but it was rare even then. No idea what the rate of noncing is like since then, but probably higher than anyone would like. Meanwhile in Missouri my school was beating people with a wooden paddle in 2009.
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I thought it was Brian Singer and David Geffen but it sounds like sexual assault is endemic to the talent industry.
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Shitstorm Trooper posted:Meanwhile in Missouri my school was beating people with a wooden paddle in 2009. Presumably that didn’t develop into an Old Boys network though. I guess I’m wrapping my head around how being abused came to be an elite pedigree.
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my grandfather taught a sort of advanced high school shop class until 2000. at the beginning of each year he would have the boys design and create the paddle he would use on them. at the end of the year the paddle went up on the wall with the collection for next generation(s) to see.
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some years they were like the platonic ideal exemplar of a paddle. other years you could tell they were trying to think about how to make it hurt less. more often you could tell they were trying to make it hurt more. there was a very smart and meta tiny paddle from the early 80s and since it was the only one there was an implied rule you couldnt do that poo poo again.
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Frosted Flake posted:Presumably that didn’t develop into an Old Boys network though. I guess I’m wrapping my head around how being abused came to be an elite pedigree. from the perspective of the networking of power it doesn't matter about the abuse itself, its about the networks of secrecy and thus trust that develop. same reason George W Bush, Steven Mnuchin, John Kerry, William F. Buckley Jr., and William Howard Taft all jacked off into the same coffin (not at the same time of course) while spilling their sexual secrets, its not because the sexual secrets or coffin-jacking itself are often that meaningful, but its the network of secrecy and trust that the ritual creates.
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What happens when the coffin fills up completely?
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taqueso posted:What happens when the coffin fills up completely? Are you familiar with the rules of ookie cookie
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Egg Moron posted:totally different styles of organized institutional pedophilia in that they're separate entities but that it's not unheard of that yakuza do deals with our coast
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Trabisnikof posted:from the perspective of the networking of power it doesn't matter about the abuse itself, its about the networks of secrecy and thus trust that develop. 
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there is also, incidentally, black magic going on too.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_massacre
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Cached Money posted:I'm pretty convinced that Spacey is in a higher tier of the illuminati than Epstein ever was he played himself in a movie directed by Bryan Singer lol
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smarxist posted:maybe the time compression plot from final fantasy 8 was about liberalism, going to turn this thesis over in my brain for awhile this proposal hit my brain like a bomb going off and now my eye is twitching
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Great to know that the abusive manipulator who legitimized celebrities buying and selling women with other celebrities didn't have any of Charlie's stag reels
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Ace of Baes posted:even if if theorize brace is lying about it being ironic and you think he was doing literal Nazi or white supremacist stuff he was still, a. Hooked on heroin, b. Basically a kid still, like I've brought up before on this discourse though, even if you think brace is an op, what is he accomplishing, what is limited about his hangout? Here's a quote from the latest episode, an interview with Julie K Brown: quote:BB: My take on it is if epstein was working with intelligence agencies, I think whatever was happening, by 2005: long over. If that was the case, he wouldn't even have been arrested in the first place. I mean, it's... At this point Brace redirects the conversation back to JKB's investigation in Palm Beach.
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Blood-in blood-out is the only way it works for all organized crime, which is what we're talking about. Continuing to conceive the intelligence agencies as intelligence agencies rather than crime organizations means you're either ignorant, duped, or in agreement with them (i.e., the 'necessity' of these arrangements towards some national security). It's not even odd or out of the ordinary even within non-crime organizations. Military special ops work much the same way organized crime does in terms of promotion/trust: you assign your man a job that some people would object to, see if he does. If he doesn't object then the next job will be something even more would object to. If he doesn't object then you increase it again. You don't just promote some random person into committing or witnessing criminal/depraved acts on their say-so since that would be a huge risk, obviously. poo poo you'll even see versions of this working corporate - the more you're willing to bend, stretch, and eventually break rules (or social mores) the further you'll climb - rather than Blood Out you get the Madoff treatment.
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it's still perfectly possible epstien was just an asset that got burned
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Goast posted:it's still perfectly possible epstien was just an asset that got burned This is my assumption.
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Goast posted:it's still perfectly possible epstien was just an asset that got burned I don't disagree with this but characterizing Epstein as a wannabe who was Probably Just Bullshitting about the CIA is a form of damage control
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I think Epstein was part of one of the smaller privately organized covert intelligence/crime organizations that flourished during the cold war. By being aligned but not attached, they provided value to intelligence agencies as both means of information and action. Need a quick blackmail op? Don't have to set up your own, just introduce them to the Maxwells. But in the post cold war and internet era that kind of service became less and less useful. Meanwhile rather than retiring to St James to be a private pedo, Epstein instead wanted to constantly expand his public profile. His value was declining all while he increased the risk he posed not just to the agencies he worked with, but with the increasingly high profile sex perverts he pursued. I'm sure he helped the CIA, but I also don't think he was taking orders from Langley. Like Epstein palling around with Bill Gates or Bill Clinton doesn't help the CIA do squat it is only creating risk. So when eventually he became just too high profile to continue to ignore, sure the first time they might step in to help him out, but sure as hell not the second time.
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That's the other thing, Epstein didn't build his network, he inherited it. Dalton School, Wexner, Maxwell, other people built the networks he took advantage of and he just coasted on their work.
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Ronin with De Niro but the ex spies are all running pedo blackmail rings
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eshock posted:Here's a quote from the latest episode, an interview with Julie K Brown: I think Brace is pretty much correct in his analysis there, Epstein loved to brag/lie about poo poo he did, and you can see the Florida case as sort of a warning shot in his direction, basically "you get this one break but next time you are a dead man" and lo and behold he got arrested again due to his insane lifestyle and ended up getting murdered, probably because the people in charge knew he couldn't keep his mouth shut. Epstein wasn't an agent or spy, he wanted too seem like he was though. To the intelligence agencies that used him, he was an useful idiot. I like the idea that Epstein was a concept, like he was a real guy who really was a pedophile and so on, but he was ultimately disposable because all he did was fill a role the users of the blackmail material he generated needed filled and there's probably already another or several other similar operations running somewhere else.
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I think Epstein was a literal cia agent (or something above that) but if that is your case for Brace also being a cia agent that's pretty weak Edit: we know literally so little, I know an obsessively large amount about this poo poo but even after making so many connections and starting to know how these groups have functioned over the decades knowing who's on the book for the CIA, or a member of the social caste that gets controlled by them, or a member of the social caste that controls them, is impossible, and I think for some people it probably shifts over time Ace of Baes has issued a correction as of 01:22 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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Ace of Baes posted:I think Epstein was a literal cia agent (or something above that) but if that is your case for Brace also being a cia agent that's pretty weak Agent or “officer”?
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