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Osgir, Winota, Feather, and Koll are an order of magnitude more powerful than the other Boros commanders, but I’m quite confident a Big Spells Velomachus Lorehold deck could be a really fun battle cruiser experienceH.P. Hovercraft posted:my in-person playgroup isn't super cutthroat and we're welcoming a new guy in who's entirely new to the game so i'm building a fun Jared Carthalion deck Yeah I built this when he came out. My main idea was running lots of Earthquake effects, both to pump Jerry and also to eliminate the possibility of losing monarch. You just run goad effects and a couple angels or dragons to keep you safe from fliers and then hopefully your big fat King Jerry gets Rancor or Shadowspear and you just push people down. The problem was just that the deck DEMANDS set up, you can’t just kinda play your cards in whatever order because they won’t accomplish anything. You need to have protection, play Jerry, make him big, keep Monarch the whole time… it’s a very tall order for a battlecruiser Naya deck (especially that is drawing their opponents more cards!!!!), but still fun.
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Bust Rodd posted:Uh, I’m sorry dude, but your Plan A is to connect 9 separate attacks over the course of the game to beat out a table with Etrata? That’s just never gonna happen. the part that i really don't like about her is that you can't even proliferate the wincon counters, because it counts the number of cards she exiles, and that's before you even get into that she's shut off entirely if they don't have any creatures out like i guess you could run a buncha stuff to make extra turns, but what deck can't win by taking extra turns as a strategy
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my in-person playgroup isn't super cutthroat and we're welcoming a new guy in who's entirely new to the game so i'm building a fun Jared Carthalion deck The problem I've faced is that getting monarch and keeping it can be kind of a challenge. Trailblazer's Boots are fantastic equipment for Jared in commander and come highly recommended. Run all 3 of the available Thrones, Blasphemous Act, Chandra's Ignition, and Mayael's Aria. I also strongly recommend Pariah and cast it on Jared so that no one can easily take Monarch from you as long as Jared is alive.
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Dizz posted:Also i heard that boros was like one of the weakest types and i was kinda interested in looking at their commanders but now im under the belief that it's the weakest because their commanders are just extremely boring. Akroma partnered with Rogahk is a popular boros commander and a good step away from boring. Ardenn is pretty great with Rogahk too.
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 From today's Kamigawa story. Wonder if this one will be any good in Commander.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:my in-person playgroup isn't super cutthroat and we're welcoming a new guy in who's entirely new to the game so i'm building a fun Jared Carthalion deck I don't have experience with him, but when I was looking at making a gimmicky banding deck I considered him for the Commander spot, so you have that option. (yes, I think you should play banding against a new player, why do you ask?)
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Lmao, I hadn't seen this spoiler/leak yet: http://mythicspoiler.com/neo/cards/tatsunaritoadrider.html
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Jan 25, 2022 02:59
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do people ever leak fake cards and such? would be funny to gently caress people over with interesting or cool cards that won't exist.
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Dizz posted:do people ever leak fake cards and such? would be funny to gently caress people over with interesting or cool cards that won't exist. Every set and it's always dumb.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Lmao, I hadn't seen this spoiler/leak yet: Might be fun to make an enchantress deck with black instead of white
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Might be fun to make an enchantress deck with black instead of white black does have a fair amount of enchantment-creatures, notably Doomwake Giant though unlike Doomwake Giant i don't think most of them directly support the enchantress strat beyond their typeline
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:black does have a fair amount of enchantment-creatures, notably Doomwake Giant BUG Enchantress just to play Oubliette.
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Unconfirmed leak, but you know... 
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When did the legendary rule stop being a thing? At last night's game I tried to kill someone's commander by Cloning it and apparently it doesn't work that way anymore? Leave the format for ten years and everything changes. 
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I brought my Drake posted:When did the legendary rule stop being a thing? At last night's game I tried to kill someone's commander by Cloning it and apparently it doesn't work that way anymore? 2014, almost specifically for the exact situation you tried.
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I brought my Drake posted:When did the legendary rule stop being a thing? At last night's game I tried to kill someone's commander by Cloning it and apparently it doesn't work that way anymore? Almost a decade ago. It changed with the release of M14..
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it was surprising to me as well since it happened after i had previously quit too, also the elimination of mana burn and the addition of an entirely new card type (planeswalkers) lol
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:it was surprising to me as well since it happened after i had previously quit too, also the elimination of mana burn and the addition of an entirely new card type (planeswalkers) lol "What do you mean damage doesn't go on the stack anymore?"
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Who needs the stack when you've got The Batch? *sacrifices a permanent on the way to the graveyard*
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I brought my Drake posted:When did the legendary rule stop being a thing? At last night's game I tried to kill someone's commander by Cloning it and apparently it doesn't work that way anymore? I had a similar situation when I got back in a few months ago. I was surprised to find out that you can't tuck people's commanders into their libraries anymore.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I had a similar situation when I got back in a few months ago. I was surprised to find out that you can't tuck people's commanders into their libraries anymore. Another thing Sheldon said was "unfun". Maybe he got hit with a Spin into Myth + Tunnel Vision or something and got salty.
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Clone was always in my decks because it could hit commanders with shroud or hexproof, since its ancient wording didn’t include “target” for its effect and they never changed that.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Another thing Sheldon said was "unfun". Maybe he got hit with a Spin into Myth + Tunnel Vision or something and got salty. Removing the tuck rule was in fact "cool and good" and generally well received.
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Also making commanders always hit the graveyard for death triggers was an A+ decision
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Silhouette posted:Also making commanders always hit the graveyard for death triggers was an A+ decision I had a back and forth with someone in my group about whether or not this was the case. It just made sense to me that a commander dies, hits the graveyard, and is then redirected. It turned out not to be the case. (Then they changed the rule like 2 weeks later so I was right.  )
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it goes back to the commander zone but still hits on death triggers from what i heard. it's a weird rule with people trying to steal commanders when they hit the GY.
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Dizz posted:it goes back to the commander zone but still hits on death triggers from what i heard. it's a weird rule with people trying to steal commanders when they hit the GY. Commanders still hit the graveyard or exile and a state-based effect gives the owner the option to move it to the command zone after that. That's the rules change. Originally, the effect was defined as a replacement effect that prevented the card from ever hitting the zone. This actually changed how cards like Grasp of Fate interacted with commanders. Originally, if you moved the card to the command zone as a replacement, and Grasp was later removed, you'd get your commander back to the field for free. That is no longer the case since the Grasp effect doesn't follow the card from the exile zone to the command zone.
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AlternateNu posted:Commanders still hit the graveyard or exile and a state-based effect gives the owner the option to move it to the command zone after that. That's the rules change. You have the option to leave the commander in exile "under" the Grasp so that it will come back. But you cannot then cast it from the command zone. It's in one zone or the other. Edit: incidentally this is why I think Suspend is such underrated removal in Commander. If they choose to leave their commander exiled in suspense, they'll get it back for free, but you get a guaranteed two turns where it is out of commission. If they redirect, they have to pay the tax. Sometimes you just need it to be out of the way for a second. Not bad for one Mana. Heath fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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Heath posted:You have the option to leave the commander in exile "under" the Grasp so that it will come back. But you cannot then cast it from the command zone. It's in one zone or the other. You can suspend your own dockside as well which can be nice. Or other strong etbs but mostly dockside
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AlternateNu posted:Commanders still hit the graveyard or exile and a state-based effect gives the owner the option to move it to the command zone after that. That's the rules change. The absolute worst part of this rules change is that it hosed Norin the Wary.
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Considering breaking up my Prosper deck. I wanted to focus a lot on just generating treasure tokens but my goal after that was nonexistant. a fat majority of the deck is proxies so it doesn't bother me much but it's still upsetting that my idea didn't come to fruition. just glad i didn't loving buy dockside, ragavan, etc.
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The Shortest Path posted:The absolute worst part of this rules change is that it hosed Norin the Wary. How so?
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Dizz posted:Considering breaking up my Prosper deck. I wanted to focus a lot on just generating treasure tokens but my goal after that was nonexistant. a fat majority of the deck is proxies so it doesn't bother me much but it's still upsetting that my idea didn't come to fruition. Just get a Dark Depths, Marionette Master, and a bunch of other dumb ,mana, expensive devastating poo poo to swing around with all that money Uncle Scrooge. Even a Ghirapur Aethergrid is going to have a hilariously nasty effect. https://archidekt.com/decks/1699947#Prosper_Work_in_Progress That's my upgraded Prosper in it's current form. Unsure if I want to stick a big dumb expensive Eldrazi in there, but it's fun to pilot around and just acrue a gently caress ton of treasures per turn when one or two pieces are out on the board. What's neat is there are so many different pieces that will just net you treasure for doing things I don't really need to worry about not having one or two certain pieces, outside of Prosper, to just start generating money. Jiro fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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I've also got a dedicated treasure deck and it sure does churn out treasures. It doesn't really do anything after that, though 
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Heath posted:How so? You used to be able to move him into the command zone with his ability and have it still return him to the battlefield. This made it so that if anyone played a Stifle effect or something like that on his return trigger, he'd still be able to be recast from the command zone. Now you have to keep him in exile, so if his return trigger gets disrupted by anything he's permanently gone for the rest of the game.
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The Shortest Path posted:You used to be able to move him into the command zone with his ability and have it still return him to the battlefield. This made it so that if anyone played a Stifle effect or something like that on his return trigger, he'd still be able to be recast from the command zone. His exile and return trigger are all one trigger. You either interrupt the whole thing or you don't. If you cast Stifle on him while he's still on the battlefield he triggers again and that goes on top of the stack so it will fizzle. If you stifle the exile ability, he will never leave in the first place.
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Heath posted:His exile and return trigger are all one trigger. You either interrupt the whole thing or you don't. If you cast Stifle on him while he's still on the battlefield he triggers again and that goes on top of the stack so it will fizzle. If you stifle the exile ability, he will never leave in the first place. That's not correct. His ability creates a delayed trigger that occurs at the end step, which goes on the stack and can be interacted with. 603.7 in the comprehensive rules.
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Aranan posted:I've also got a dedicated treasure deck and it sure does churn out treasures. Win conditions: who needs ‘em??
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