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Making myself happy (winning with a giant robot as my commander) is better than making other people miserable imo EDIT: The cool thing is if you go off with this guy you incidentally loot a bunch of free/cheap interaction to your hand to protect the Oracle. Shell of all the good rocks, the good artfact tutors in U and W, counter magic, silence effects, etc. Seems like it could be okay. W has good answers for RoL/Null Rod effects too. fadam fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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fadam posted:EDIT: Wait, you can because he's not actually a creature I just found out. Shorikai is, in fact, the first noncreature, nonplaneswalker commander. In black border anyway. That's a lot of unique attributes.
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As an alt-win con are there any UW cards that can do something interesting with a bunch of summoning sick 1/1s?
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fadam posted:As an alt-win con are there any UW cards that can do something interesting with a bunch of summoning sick 1/1s?  The Tomino Special.
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I guess yea if you can find a way to Time Twister loop you can make an infinite army of 1/1s all of which can then feed that lol.
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To be honest I am spending zero attention on the pilots and they'll only come up if the other plans fail and I have to resort to actually using the Getter Robo* to fight things. *It needs 3 pilots.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:To be honest I am spending zero attention on the pilots and they'll only come up if the other plans fail and I have to resort to actually using the Getter Robo* to fight things. Ya 100% , but I've had my Oracle grasped before and absolutely wished I had some other way to win lol. The fact that you can reliably draw your entire deck AND make a shitload of 1/1s means adding Altar/Twister is a pretty free include I think. EDIT: Thanks for posting that robot picture lol. I've been looking for a cool low colour commander and this really has be excited. EDIT 2: Where I'm at right now: 
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Anyone speak Phyrexian:
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7 mana 5/5 no text
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it's not going to be that horrible fake leak from strixhaven is it
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fadam posted:Anyone speak Phyrexian: I think there is a 1:1 phyrexian->english alphabet now, but lmao I am not trying to read the world's blurriest runes
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fadam posted:Anyone speak Phyrexian: When Jin-Gitaxias enters the battlefield, target opponent must make you a sandwich
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Pictures dead for me but I assume cards are halved/doubled but not the first one each turn
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Entropic posted:the proper use of Isochron Scepter is to put Memory Lapse on it. It's not an instant win combo, but it will make your opponent miserable and that's what counts. I got this assembled exactly once in an ultimate masters (I think?) draft and it was glorious.
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this is the card. discord link expired/blocked
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Given the second Vorinclex's effect was very different but still a key green effect I wouldn't be surprised if it was "The first spell you cast each turn cannot be countered. Counter the first spell an opponent casts each turn." Maybe first noncreature spell Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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I suppose aggro/combo vehicle is an interesting space for a UW commander that hasn't really been touched on.
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IDK why the phyrexians are experimenting with gods and planeswalkers when all they need is to nut out a little oil and come back in a few centuries. Also wasn't Tezz a bolas lackey? Dude really can't strike out on his own eh?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:IDK why the phyrexians are experimenting with gods and planeswalkers when all they need is to nut out a little oil and come back in a few centuries. The Mirrodin Phyrexians have very different aims and goals from the original ones, iirc.
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Strong Sauce posted:this is the card. discord link expired/blocked discord is just having a ton of issues today, card did not get erased from the memory of man
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Framboise posted:I suppose aggro/combo vehicle is an interesting space for a UW commander that hasn't really been touched on. It is kind of unfortunate that there's a ton of cool unique stuff about its design but in terms of applicability it is basically just a better Vega lol.
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aww man i just noticed the alchemy changes soulhearder + inquisitor captain was just ever so much fun, especially backed up by ephemerate "oh sorry im gonna barf out at least one creature every turn for no mana, often the one i most need"
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Given the second Vorinclex's effect was very different but still a key green effect I wouldn't be surprised if it was "The first spell you cast each turn cannot be countered. Counter the first spell an opponent casts each turn."
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:. Counter the first spell an opponent casts each turn." That would be absurd
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ilmucche posted:That would be absurd it does seem like the sort of thing that would require the "shuffle into library when it hits the graveyard" clause at minimum just because cheating it out would end games
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I can’t get over how wimpy the P/T looks on the phyrexian text cards.
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LeafHouse posted:I can’t get over how wimpy the P/T looks on the phyrexian text cards. What, you don’t like your Power and Toughness to look like a child’s scribbles?
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LeafHouse posted:I can’t get over how wimpy the P/T looks on the phyrexian text cards. Oh god, I just realized that we're probably getting alt frame cards in the LoTR set in Sindarin and the black tongue instead of english
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Silhouette posted:Oh god, I just realized that we're probably getting alt frame cards in the LoTR set in Sindarin and the black tongue instead of english Why didn’t we get AFR cards in Dethek and Espruar then I’m angry
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I haven't played magic seriously since Thragtusk/Restoration Angel era. what is the big complaint I keep seeing about monetization? I got into Arena, am playing Standard and it cost me sixty dollars. im a little annoyed they just nerfed the poo poo out of the deck I built, but I could easily buy in for a whole new deck and it still wouldn't cost as much as paper used to. paper prices aren't exactly cheap but don't seem out of line with my memory. what have I missed?
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I haven't played magic seriously since Thragtusk/Restoration Angel era. It's really cheap/easy to build one or two good decks on Arena, but: -Because all rares cost the same, spending wild cards on janky fun cards for brews feels bad. -There's no way to liquidate cards so if you get tired of a deck after buying in and want to build something else, you have to start from scratch. -If I want to buy a copy of card in paper or on MTGO I look up how much it costs, decide how much I want to spend, then buy it. With Arena its a bit more of a pain in the rear end and costs are more obfuscated. The optimal way is to buy/crack one pack at a time until you earn a WC/open the card you want. As someone willing to spend money on the game, I don't want to gently caress around with that, just let me spend my money on the card I want directly! -Now that they can alchemize cards buying in to powerful stuff is kind of a liability because they might just nerf it to make it unplayable instead of banning it, so you don't get a wildcard OR a playable card. At least in paper/modo if the card is still playable in SOME format you can get some value back (for example: despite just getting banned in Legacy Ragavan is still a 90 dollar card). Having played a bunch on both I think I like MTGO's economy better, but I'm not a F2Per. fadam fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:I haven't played magic seriously since Thragtusk/Restoration Angel era. Expect to spend a lot of your capital on lands for a long while. Try to draft when possible and do your dailies to suppliment your collection while you spend the rest of your wildcards on lands.
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It does feel lovely to blow a wildcard on a dual land. but it felt even shittier to blow $25 on a single snapcaster mage or overgrown tomb. i really hate shelling out for expensive cardboard that's only valuable because of the rules printed on it. Putting every rare on the same playing field value wise is something I actually like. im pretty annoyed that arena is going to cripple my izzet deck and give me back 8 cards when I need to replace the other 52 cards also. but even this injustice is better than when they ban poo poo in paper. maybe I was misunderstanding the monetization complaints and people are upset about paper prices. modern decks were really expensive ten years ago but they're actually unbelievable now.
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:It does feel lovely to blow a wildcard on a dual land. but it felt even shittier to blow $25 on a single snapcaster mage or overgrown tomb. i really hate shelling out for expensive cardboard that's only valuable because of the rules printed on it. Putting every rare on the same playing field value wise is something I actually like. I also never understood the Arena hate. I play for about 30-45 minutes everyday, I don't spend gems or gold on useless cosmetics, and I am currently sitting at over 300 wild cards between Mythic and Rare. Granted, I only play Standard, and have the tier 1 decks built out. Feeling really good about avoiding Historic with all of these bullshit Alchemy additions.
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DangerDongs posted:Granted, I only play Standard, and have the tier 1 decks built out. Rewards being predicated on wins makes this a big deal, especially for people who don't play 30-45 minutes a day.
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I dunno if anyone is keeping up with the Kamigawa plot but looking up that Jin-Gitaxias art led me to one of the story posts and apparently The Wanderer is the empress of Kamigawa? Not where I thought they were going to go with that character, but neat.
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Nighthand posted:I dunno if anyone is keeping up with the Kamigawa plot but looking up that Jin-Gitaxias art led me to one of the story posts and apparently The Wanderer is the empress of Kamigawa? Not where I thought they were going to go with that character, but neat. Yes, and Tamiyo is back on Kamigawa too. And had a Nezumi kid! I was talking about the story with some friends and basically every thread left in magic story is getting tied up here in Kamigawa
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Rewards being predicated on wins makes this a big deal, especially for people who don't play 30-45 minutes a day. You make a good point. I guess starting a collection after the game has been going for a while would make that harder. I assumed it matched people in non-ranked games to players with similar collections. I also have the collection I do, because I started on day 1 of the program.
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Unranked has deck strength matchmaking, which would supposedly match new players playing underpowered new player decks against other new players with similarly underpowered decks, but also against established players playing bad decks with lots of bad cards. This can lead to some perverse incentives where crafting some dual lands to make your deck objectively better actually means you start getting stomped by the people playing top-tier meta decks but playing them in the unranked queue for some reason.
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