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I’m guessing third party tortious interference
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euphronius posted:Medicare will pay for a bit of nursing home care in certain circumstances May have changed since I last knew this area but yeah they ll pay for short term but not long term care.
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For those asking earlier, here is the ruling. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21185437/2022cv000068-tro4317792.pdf
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 00:07 |
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It turned out to be a one day tro so yes everyone blew it way out of proportion
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 00:10 |
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I think a one day emergency injunction on the basis of one party saying "People will die if you don't hit pause on this" isn't the most unreasonable thing in the world for a judge to do.
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A one day tro lamo is the most unreasonable thing in the world ?
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Alchenar posted:I think a one day emergency injunction on the basis of one party saying "People will die if you don't hit pause on this" isn't the most unreasonable thing in the world for a judge to do. It seems ridiculous to grant an injunction that doesn't actually relieve the complaint. If you claim people will die if these employees leave and the injunction states the employees can't start work for the other company. That doesn't actually solve the issue and just screws over the employees.
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asur posted:It seems ridiculous to grant an injunction that doesn't actually relieve the complaint. If you claim people will die if these employees leave and the injunction states the employees can't start work for the other company. That doesn't actually solve the issue and just screws over the employees. I wanna know how the other 4 rubes on the formerly 11 member team feel, stuck with the poo poo hospital. that may not be fair. the 4 other 'folk'.
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Eminent Domain posted:The real push they dangle here is that if you want them to sign off on the u-visa or similar you have the cooperate with the criminal investigation. So for cases with immigration concerns that's where it kicks in. Sorry for the late reply - Ive never seen this in ky limited practice but afaik there isnt a specific law barring it.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 01:30 |
I'm aware of one local case in my area where the prosecutor tried to pull that kind of thing a few days before trial. The defense attorney filed an ethics complaint against the prosecutor and then the prosecutor sank the case with a mistrial.
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If nothing else, I think we have the start of an answer to 'What happens if a bunch employees all maliciously quit at once to tank their employer?'.
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euphronius posted:A one day tro lamo is the most unreasonable thing in the world ? The way his first opinion was written is pretty unreasonable yeah. Come to the table and settle it, or I'll harm the poo poo out of these third parties while we hash it out. If it was "I'm doing this until Monday out of an abundance of caution due to the claims of potential harm to patients, but bring some good arguments" it wouldn't have raised such a stink. I think it's cool that the nurses got 50k to split from a GoFundMe at least. I hope plaintiff's counsel gets sanctioned.
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It also seems likely that the outrage made the judge back down and it wouldn't have been a one day order otherwise. Nothing has actually changed since he made the orderDevor posted:I think it's cool that the nurses got 50k to split from a GoFundMe at least. I hope plaintiff's counsel gets sanctioned. Foxfire_ fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jan 25, 2022 |
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Nonexistence posted:We have an estate planning thread here with good resources Thank you, goon sir. In Oregon that’s $75k in liquid cash and investments and $225k or $250k in real estate. I told my parents this when they came by today and they received it well. They asked me what they need to do to get the ball rolling, and I told them to find an attorney in our town that does estate planning, wills, and probate. They said they will do it. We’ll see.
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Foxfire_ posted:It also seems likely that the outrage made the judge back down and it wouldn't have been a one day order otherwise. Nothing has actually changed since he made the order Thedacare originally asked for no new hires by ascension, an order that ascension stop poaching their employees, and that the current 7 couldn't start there unless two were provided to thedacare along with 24/7 oncall. The temp order, as reported, only gave them one tech and 24/7 on call support. However that never actually happened as the judge wiped that away yesterday.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 13:42 |
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What's the deal with the police releasing video of people confessing to crimes? If they release video of me confessing, are there grounds for a discrimination charge since not everybody's confession is released?
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Not a question about conveyancing, but a question about conveyancers. I'm in England. I'm using one at the moment for a house sale and purchase. They are awful - ignore multiple emails and calls, don't update us, take their time with everything, and the only way I can actually speak to them is if I call their boss after a week of ignored attempts at communication. Everybody tells me this is normal and to be expected. I looked up my emails from when I last did this and the same thing happened with an entirely different firm, 10 years ago. My questions are how universal is this? And why does this happen? I feel as though if I ignored customer communication even half as much as this I'd get fired - and rightly so.
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A week isn’t a long time in many contexts What are you expecting. Not rhetorical , what are expecting really . Also you aren’t a customer you are a client
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euphronius posted:Also you aren’t a customer you are a client Semantics. He’s paying for a service.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 14:28 |
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Incorrect. Also accusing a lawyer of “semantics” lol that is literally our job
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 14:32 |
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You are paying your conveyencer for admin, searches, and review of documents. That's all stuff that just takes as long as it takes. Your conveyencing fee absolutely does not cover time on the phone with a solicitor.
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FrozenVent posted:Semantics. He’s paying for a service. It isn’t just semantics. There are different responsibilities that a lawyer owes a client that someone in a customer/merchant relationship does not. A merchant just has to essentially make sure that the good they’re selling is fit for the particular purpose, is free from defects, and provide whatever warranty is required under law or the purchase agreement. A lawyer-client relationship carries a great deal more duties on behalf of the attorney.
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# ? Jan 26, 2022 16:38 |
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Also a lawyer can have a client and the client pays no money for the services
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:Not a question about conveyancing, but a question about conveyancers. I'm in England. It all depends on the context and I have no idea what's rationa or normal for a solicitor's firm in England. What I can say doing criminal work as a public defender in America, there are some calls I have to make as legal duties and other calls that are handholding, and I don't always have time for handholding on an immediate basis. I return calls as soon as I can, which is not always the next business day, especially if I'm in the jail all day (where there's no access to cellphones) or in court all day (again where there's no access to cellphones). Lawyers have *duties*, actual binding legal obligations on their time, and sometimes duties to the court or other clients control what we can and can't do with our time. If you're my client and you have a court date coming up or if there's actually been an update in your case, you'll get a call. If I don't have any news for you though you'll get a return call when I have time. I'm not here to make you happy or satisfied, I'm here to get the best result I can for all of my clients, and sometimes my duty to other clients means I can't spare time to make you feel better. Also sometimes I'm shitposting on the internet That said the english bar is weird and my dim and distant understanding is that they're a fairly restricted profession and do what they want when they want to do it. That's mostly based on Bleak House tho so probably out of date! Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jan 26, 2022 |
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i am unaware of anyone in the united states who has ever been satisfied with the customer service of their real estate firm when they buy a house, because it's a low-margin commodity business
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pseudanonymous posted:There's 100 lbs of meat we got from hunting too. Don't forget an entire wagon full of bullets.
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evilweasel posted:i am unaware of anyone in the united states who has ever been satisfied with the customer service of their real estate firm when they buy a house, because it's a low-margin commodity business And probably because real estate agents have carved out a non-value added niche protected by law and the incentives are totally misaligned. I.e. they are useless rent seekers and virtually everyone forced to interact with them is made forcibly aware of it.
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I mean … they are providing a service lol
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pseudanonymous posted:And probably because real estate agents have carved out a non-value added niche protected by law and the incentives are totally misaligned. I.e. they are useless rent seekers and virtually everyone forced to interact with them is made forcibly aware of it. Tell me about your most recent real estate transaction without telling me about your most recent real estate transaction
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pseudanonymous posted:And probably because real estate agents have carved out a non-value added niche protected by law and the incentives are totally misaligned. I.e. they are useless rent seekers and virtually everyone forced to interact with them is made forcibly aware of it. real estate lawyers are different from real estate agents the lawyers paper the deal, do diligence, make sure all the forms get signed in the right order, etc
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 02:20 |
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They draft the deed, title search, clearing impairments on the title!!! Big time stuff
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# ? Jan 27, 2022 02:22 |
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If we're talking semantics, I don't believe the person I'm dealing with is a solicitor. They work for a solicitors firm, but the job titles I've seen on emails suggest that there are separate solicitors and conveyancers. Client/customer - sure, whichever you prefer or think applies. When I used customer, I was referring to my work (professional services, but not legal) where we happily use them interchangably. In terms of what I expect - I don't expect handholding, regular calls, constant communication. At the start of the process they did some of that and it was appreciated but not expected. I'm talking more along the lines of if they say they have something ready and will send it by the end of the week, the by the end of the week after haven't done so, then don't respond to emails or voicemail for a further week asking when we can expect to receive it. If this happened once I'd think differently, but through communication with both our buyer and our seller we can see our conveyancer hasn't responded to stuff they've sent in weeks, or has sat on stuff for as long before taking any action. I get that there are processes that unavoidably take time, and maybe I've not managed to articulate elements so well but there are also times when you can see that someone has just not taken any action. The reason I bothered asking about it was because when I speak of this experience to friends & colleagues they describe the same frustrations when they've gone through the process in different cities with different firms. Essentially this: Hieronymous Alloy posted:That said the english bar is weird and my dim and distant understanding is that they're a fairly restricted profession and do what they want when they want to do it.
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Since were on real estate is it possible to get a contract that holds the seller accountable for X years for major repairs if they insist on skipping inspections? The new trend in my area is to list homes with NO INSPECTIONS and refuse to budge on that.
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Azuth0667 posted:Since were on real estate is it possible to get a contract that holds the seller accountable for X years for major repairs if they insist on skipping inspections? The new trend in my area is to list homes with NO INSPECTIONS and refuse to budge on that. Maybe, but that’s not what those sellers/buyers are doing. Because interest rates have been at zero, there is a lot of corporate and investor money pouring into real estate. These buyers don’t care about perfect and are just buying as much as possible, doubling rents, and collecting checks.
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:My questions are how universal is this? And why does this happen? I feel as though if I ignored customer communication even half as much as this I'd get fired - and rightly so. I'm in Australia and my conveyancer was loving terrible, fwiw. Mainly it was missing poo poo in the contract they shouldn't have, but I also dealt with a different person just about every time which didn't help when I'd ask for updates on whatever the last person had discussed with me. I assume it's partly due to high workload, partly due to the kind of people who are drawn to working in "real estate". E: the dude I bought my house from was also really difficult, to be fair. But the contract poo poo they still should have picked up. Whitlam fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Since were on real estate is it possible to get a contract that holds the seller accountable for X years for major repairs if they insist on skipping inspections? The new trend in my area is to list homes with NO INSPECTIONS and refuse to budge on that. Why would someone agree to that after being able to get away with telling you no inspections?
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ulmont posted:Why would someone agree to that after being able to get away with telling you no inspections? Also, this. No one listing a house as "cash only, no inspections" is giving any warranties. These houses still sell within days of hitting the market.
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Azuth0667 posted:Since were on real estate is it possible to get a contract that holds the seller accountable for X years for major repairs if they insist on skipping inspections? The new trend in my area is to list homes with NO INSPECTIONS and refuse to budge on that. Not a lawyer, but as others have said, you're simply not going to get them to agree to that. I guarantee they would be more willing to let you do inspections than to get them to warranty anything. Frankly you can can put just about anything you want in a purchase contract, and most of what you can think of is likely binding, but the simple truth is if the market is strong enough for them to get offers that waive inspections, you'll never find a seller who's going to agree to some weird contingencies. Might be able to get them to pay for a 3rd party home warranty, but those are barely worth the paper they're printed on. All that said, disclosures are usually required and legally binding, depending on your state. Sellers aren't allowed to lie on them, but the issue is you'd need to prove that the problem existed prior to closing AND the seller knew (or should have known) about it. Not a simple task. edit: Don't waive inspections without knowing what you're getting in to. You might have to make a higher offer, but skipping inspections could end poorly for you. This is the biggest purchase of your life, you don't want to close and find tens of thousands of immediately necessary repairs. There's a house-buying thread in BFC, lots of people in there have advice. Houses are money pits, pure and simple. DaveSauce fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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socketwrencher posted:What's the deal with the police releasing video of people confessing to crimes? If they release video of me confessing, are there grounds for a discrimination charge since not everybody's confession is released? I actually thought the issue of selective release of video was interesting, but I guess not. Imagine the joy of having yourself captured on Youtube for the rest of eternity.
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There's a whole home buying thread, FYI. It's good: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3131399
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