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Jan 27, 2022 13:23
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Two of the best ways they could get people back to work are:
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goddamnedtwisto posted:IIRC they actually have a couple of birds of prey that they move around all of the big terminuses to keep the pigeons away. There's also a falconer that works for Westminster City Council to keep pigeons away from Trafalgar Square and Whitehall.  It's  because eagles would have been wiped out decades ago if they weren't protected by half a dozen different government departments that they can't even conceive of existing, whereas pigeons keep surviving council eradication campaigns through mutual aid and diversity.
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Jan 27, 2022 13:25
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Yeah but nobody cool puts a pigeon on the back of their leather jacket.
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Jan 27, 2022 13:30
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There was a time in the 00s when pigeons were cooler than eagles on some urban music brandwear.
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Jan 27, 2022 13:37
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Grey Hunter posted:when I was a kid we went to a falconry display on a really hot day - the birds did not want to perform. The falconer was a broken man, and made lots of comments like that. It must have been cool seeing a one scene Simpsons character IRL
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No Dignity posted:It must have been cool seeing a one scene Simpsons character IRL I miss when you got one-scene characters and it wasn't just Gil or comic book guy doing everything
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Jan 27, 2022 13:40
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Come with the off-the-books UKMT pod on a journey on the high seas as we briefly escape UK politics and do another instalment of our non-regular, mostly unplanned explorations of stupid military hardware! https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1486674854275436544?s=20
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Jan 27, 2022 13:46
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No Dignity posted:It must have been cool seeing a one scene Simpsons character IRL Searching "simpsons falconer" led me to this deeply cursed Season 25 guest appearance by Daniel Radcliffe  Man, the Simpsons is ugly now.
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Jan 27, 2022 13:51
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josh04 posted:Searching "simpsons falconer" led me to this deeply cursed Season 25 guest appearance by Daniel Radcliffe Whenever I catch a recent Simpsons episode the main thing that strikes me is how embarrassing Homer has become as a character. He used to be an out of touch middle aged man, but now he's that but is also being played and written by out of touch middle aged men the cringe just compounds on itself forever until you want to die.
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Ah yes, people being made destitute. Hilarious, very good. Definitely something we should be applauding as socialists. This has all the same energy of people tattling on idiots to their bosses trying to get them fired for saying whatever socially unacceptable thing and it makes me just as uncomfortable. Guy might be an idiot, but should we really be celebrating anyone losing their livelihood for having a stupid opinion? ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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Jan 27, 2022 14:01
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 Amazing scene, although the idea of the falconer getting frustrated at the birds just makes me think of this one:  Because I think of COME ON YOU STUPID HORSE on a near daily basis.
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Jan 27, 2022 14:04
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ThomasPaine posted:Ah yes, people being made destitute. Hilarious, very good. Definitely something we should be applauding as socialists. His stupid opinion is killing people, so yes. E: and lest you think I'm being cruel and unfair, he would almost certainly get his job back if he came to his senses and I would have no problem with that. But he won't, because the likes of him never do and usually can't.
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Jan 27, 2022 14:13
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Jedit posted:His stupid opinion is killing people, so yes.
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Everyone is a victim of circumstance, I don't really see that as an obstacle to feeling antipathy towards them. He is what he is because of his environment, as am I, as is Starmer, as is everyone in government. There is no magical line where some people have free will and others don't.
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There used to be but Michael Gove insufflated it at a work event.
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ThomasPaine posted:Ah yes, people being made destitute. Hilarious, very good. Definitely something we should be applauding as socialists. He's tried to grift a career by literally trying to kill people. Even now he's standing firm and hasn't learned a thing. Your 'be nice to dangerous anti-vaxxers' has the same energy as 'be nice to police/landlords/nazis' etc. Seriously, gently caress him.
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https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1486671420126076930 "Man and girl found dead at beauty spot", "the girl and man both in their late teens". The gently caress, why isn't it either boy and girl or man and woman, what kind of weird rear end reporting is this?
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why is duke at the great british bake off lmao wait this isnt the early fps thread....
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ThomasPaine posted:This has all the same energy of people tattling on idiots to their bosses trying to get them fired for saying whatever socially unacceptable thing and it makes me just as uncomfortable. Like when people get caught on video making a racist rant in a coffee shop or whatever, then get fired for it? Because that's very good energy.
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https://www.politwoops.co.uk/p/conservative/NadineDorries/1486389342205624325 e: It looks like it was meant to have been re: this: https://twitter.com/joelycett/status/1486684145795452933 (which was an obvious joke) fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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Carrier posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1486671420126076930 It's one of those journalist style sheet things, one will be 17 and the other 18
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Carrier posted:The gently caress, why isn't it either boy and girl or man and woman, what kind of weird rear end reporting is this? Presumably the girl was under 18 and the man was over.
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No Dignity posted:It must have been cool seeing a one scene Simpsons character IRL While it dates me, this was pre-Simpsons. Doctor_Fruitbat posted:
But yeah, year later I saw that episode and thought. Oh hey, I met that guy! I guess its a common theme trying to get small brained flying dinosaurs to cooperate.....
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sinky posted:Like when people get caught on video making a racist rant in a coffee shop or whatever, then get fired for it? Because that's very good energy. Weaponising the power of the employer over the employee for culture war bullshit might be satisfying but it's extremely counterproductive in the long run for anyone who believes in socialist politics. There are plenty of ways of punishing someone effectively without telling on them to their boss hoping to get them sacked. It's liberal nonsense that empowers capital, undermines class solidarity, and directly feeds far-right radicalisation. Jedit posted:His stupid opinion is killing people, so yes. Idk I just don't think anyone deserves to be homeless, call me crazy. e: That said I also don't think people need to keep giving him work or a platform either, and this would be irrelevant if we had a functional welfare state. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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Jan 27, 2022 14:41
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ThomasPaine posted:Idk I just don't think anyone deserves to be homeless, call me crazy. There's a much better place to start with this than standing up for an anti-vaxxer who chose and is currently choosing to make himself homeless, though.
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ThomasPaine posted:Idk I just don't think anyone deserves to be homeless, call me crazy. It's fine he lost jobs. It's crap people need jobs to have security (housing, food, possessions).
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I would suggest that no, in fact, there are not other ways to stop people being racist turds over the internet, and the fact that some people feel quite comfortable doing that in public suggests that there are not, in fact, people willing or able to correct their behaviour in their immediate circle either. So you are left with either covering for them, or letting their actions ruin their lives on the odd occasion they do it too loudly and get more attention than they expected. And of all the human misery in the world I really do not feel it necessary to spare any tears for people who hoist themselves with their own repulsive views and stupidity.
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fuctifino posted:https://www.politwoops.co.uk/p/conservative/NadineDorries/1486389342205624325 This is loving hysterical lmao
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Gort posted:There's a much better place to start with this than standing up for an anti-vaxxer who chose and is currently choosing to make himself homeless, though. Yes, I should have said. It's a bit different in this case because as Jedit said he could almost certainly get work back if he just shut his stupid mouth. I had a kneejerk response because the story reminded me of some I've heard (I think mostly from the states) where private companies are insisting their staff - eg retail workers - are vaccinated and threatening them with unemployment if they can't provide proof they are, which is shady as actual gently caress on multiple levels. This is a different issue, I was dumb for conflating the two. OwlFancier posted:I would suggest that no, in fact, there are not other ways to stop people being racist turds over the internet, and the fact that some people feel quite comfortable doing that in public suggests that there are not, in fact, people willing or able to correct their behaviour in their immediate circle either. You can do lots of things. If you're physically inclined you can have a stern word with them round back. If you're less so, you can ruin their personal lives by sending offending material to their families. And anything else you can dream of! Make their lives a living hell! I don't think it should be particularly controversial to say that encouraging bourgeois class violence is not a particularly ideal strategy for a socialist to be employing. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jan 27, 2022 |
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I don’t think anyone should be homeless either, but people are and the world is poo poo, so if it happens to people I hate I’m going to lol at it. Sorry not sorry
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Jakabite posted:I don’t think anyone should be homeless either, but people are and the world is poo poo, so if it happens to people I hate I’m going to lol at it. Sorry not sorry Well yeah I'd rather it happened to them than anyone else, but eh if feels like a pretty hollow win.
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stev posted:Whenever I catch a recent Simpsons episode the main thing that strikes me is how embarrassing Homer has become as a character. He used to be an out of touch middle aged man, but now he's that but is also being played and written by out of touch middle aged men the cringe just compounds on itself forever until you want to die. What do you expect, new Homer grew up in the 90s
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Marmaduke! posted:What do you expect, new Homer grew up in the 90s 2000s now surely? I want to see Homer and Marge's teenage romance kindled at a Papa Roach concert
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ThomasPaine posted:You can do lots of things. If you're physically inclined you can have a stern word with them round back. If you're less so, you can ruin their personal lives by sending offending material to their families. And anything else you can dream of! Make their lives a living hell! Do you really suppose that their families don't already know what they're like? Even if somehow stalking them to find their families and posting them letters or some poo poo like a serial killer were a normal response it is farcical to expect it to do anything. And again, how do you "have a stern word with them round back" if they are a rando on the internet? What makes you think that would achieve anything either? If the objective is simply to cause them pain then utilizing their own precarity to do so is entirely sensible as it combines comparative ease of action with a high degree of effectiveness. The nature of the worker/employer relationship is not somehow caused by weaponizing it in this form, nor would avoiding utilizing it somehow make it better. Employers would still use it whenever they felt it benefited them, irrespective of whether or not we also elect to use it by proxy. If everyone is walking around with the employment sword of damocles over their heads it is absurd to suggest not cutting the threads when it serves a useful purpose, that is entirely separate from the suggestion of whether people should be walking around like that in the first place.
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ThomasPaine posted:Well yeah I'd rather it happened to them than anyone else, but eh if feels like a pretty hollow win. I’d love some substantial hearty wins too, but while hollow is the only variety available we take what we can get
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I was told a story from a family member primary school head teacher about kids and covid. They now play stuck in the mud but when they get caught they yell "isolation", or maybe it was "infection", and when someone rescues them they go under their arms and shout "vaxxed". An interesting cultural adaptation, bit like Ring a Ring o' Roses from the plague although apparently thats disappointingly bullshit.
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