the demokkkrats are going to be destrroyed in 2024 (inshallah)

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MeatwadIsGod: Sep 30, 2004; Foretold by Gyromancy

Call me crazy but maybe Hedges should read some Lenin. America - The Farewell Tour was a good read, for the most part. I assume it's a career-protecting move but it's always frustrating when US left intellectuals refuse to engage with actually existing socialism

# ? Jan 27, 2022 17:48

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# ? May 25, 2024 17:58

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

etalian posted:

Yeah like most leftists he seems to have unironic belief that a bloodless revolution based around appeals to morality would change things.

That the all various powers and lobbyists wouldn't continue their track record of destroying grassroots populists movements like what happened to the Occupy Wall Street movement.

he says change required blood in the past in that article.

# ? Jan 27, 2022 17:50

Vomik: Jul 29, 2003; This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Chris hedges is a trot but it�s ok I enjoy listening to most of his lectures on America and imperialism

# ? Jan 27, 2022 17:52

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Vomik posted:

Chris hedges is a trot but it�s ok I enjoy listening to most of his lectures on America and imperialism

Like many leftists, he really understands the root causes and the breakdown of society.

But avoids what actually needs to be done, deciding that approaches like "Just vote!" would solve the problem

# ? Jan 27, 2022 17:53

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

Nina turner is running again lmfao

She gonna get destroyed in 2022

# ? Jan 27, 2022 18:11

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

probably. does the thread hate nina now? i'd probably still vote for her if i lived in her district even though i'm not really giving a poo poo about the party generally

# ? Jan 27, 2022 18:22

Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

My thoughts on Turner now are the same as my thoughts on Sanders:

I don't think about either one at all.

# ? Jan 27, 2022 18:45

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

My thoughts on Turner now are the same as my thoughts on Sanders:

I don't think about either one at all.

i mean fair

i still hear nina stuff from people i know in ohio so it�s discussed occasionally

i don�t vote there now though so it�s sort of whatever

# ? Jan 27, 2022 18:54

tangy yet delightful: Sep 13, 2005

If Nina makes it to congress it's just one more squad member to split votes and never stop any legislation anyway so like yeah I guess Nina would be "good" but also, :rubby:

# ? Jan 27, 2022 19:07

Femur: Jan 10, 2004; I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

Re:hedge Iirc one of the students he was helping warned him about the ambush, and he ran to never return. Did he talk about beating them up? I thought He just enact broken glass theory on them.

He seems anti violence because he is a war reporter that was so affected by it he was fired.

# ? Jan 27, 2022 19:14

UFOTacoMan: Sep 22, 2005; Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

I kind of feel bad for Nina cause she did a lot of work supporting Bernie and now when I see her name I think back to how much that last prez primary race sucked and still sucks and man lmao if I'm going to give these folks money anymore.
Also I'm not in Ohio so :shrug:

edit: unfortunate typo

UFOTacoMan has issued a correction as of 21:06 on Jan 27, 2022

# ? Jan 27, 2022 19:15

Vomik: Jul 29, 2003; This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

mediaphage posted:

probably. does the thread hate nina now? i'd probably still vote for her if i lived in her district even though i'm not really giving a poo poo about the party generally

i think after she did a lib podcast featuring kasich as a guest and sponsored by goldman sachs people soured on her

# ? Jan 27, 2022 20:21

Lib and let die: Aug 26, 2004

I will probably always have a soft spot for Hedges because yeah he correctly identifies the problems, and simply invoking his name at democrats produces tremendously entertaining paranoid rants about how he wants to hug and kiss Putin on the lips

# ? Jan 27, 2022 20:54

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

tangy yet delightful posted:

If Nina makes it to congress it's just one more squad member to split votes and never stop any legislation anyway so like yeah I guess Nina would be "good" but also,

UFOTacoMan posted:

I kind of feel bad for Nina cause she didn't a lot of work supporting Bernie and now when I see her name I think back to how much that last prez primary race sucked and still sucks and man lmao if I'm going to give these folks money anymore.
Also I'm not in Ohio so

yeah i feel that way too

Vomik posted:

i think after she did a lib podcast featuring kasich as a guest and sponsored by goldman sachs people soured on her

ahh, i see

Lib and let die posted:

I will probably always have a soft spot for Hedges because yeah he correctly identifies the problems, and simply invoking his name at democrats produces tremendously entertaining paranoid rants about how he wants to hug and kiss Putin on the lips

i'm not familiar with him so at first i thought people were talking about hedge funds lol

# ? Jan 27, 2022 20:57

Ogantai: Apr 21, 2003; Full of bologna

Real hurthling! posted:

hes a renounced catholic priest that gave up the frock

He's an active Presbyterian minister and was never Catholic or defrocked, unless we're taking about a different Chris Hedges than the one who wrote War Gives Us Meaning.

# ? Jan 27, 2022 21:26

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

sorry my bad

# ? Jan 27, 2022 21:32

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

Lib and let die posted:

I will probably always have a soft spot for Hedges because yeah he correctly identifies the problems, and simply invoking his name at democrats produces tremendously entertaining paranoid rants about how he wants to hug and kiss Putin on the lips

Yeah same. He�s a phenomenal writer and he�s good at diagnosing societal bullshit, but my man needs to go full Lenin already

# ? Jan 27, 2022 21:51

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Call me crazy but maybe Hedges should read some Lenin. America - The Farewell Tour was a good read, for the most part. I assume it's a career-protecting move but it's always frustrating when US left intellectuals refuse to engage with actually existing socialism

This is as much of the American left is inherently descended from the American Democratic tradition of Jefferson. They are revolutionary but are idealists to the end. Only those who descend from the Federalist/ Nationalist tradition of Hamilton. Like Lincoln, Roosevelt and Parenti I see accomplishing what is to be done now.

# ? Jan 27, 2022 22:26

the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

nina turner is a liberal but still has some good beliefs, not that it would make any difference to have one more of those in congress (especially after the democrats are Destroyed in 2022)

# ? Jan 28, 2022 01:04

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

I�m just looking forward to trump winning in 2024 on his platform of ending the war with russia

# ? Jan 28, 2022 01:06

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Vomik posted:

i think after she did a lib podcast featuring kasich as a guest and sponsored by goldman sachs people soured on her

she also has a marketing/PR firm

https://www.mercuryllc.com/nina-turner-launches-national-public-affairs-firm-to-advance-progressive-issues/ posted:

Nina Turner, former Ohio State Senator and Co-Chair of Bernie Sanders� 2020 presidential campaign, announced today she has launched a new firm designed to bring a progressive voice to America�s public affairs arena. Turner�s new firm, Amare Public Affairs, will work with anyone, and everyone, interested in advancing the progressive ideals and issues Turner has fought for and championed her entire career.

�This moment in American history demands that progressive voices play a central role in the national conversation around a whole range of issues,� Turner said. �The future is now. For too long, the voices of Black people, other people of color, women, and progressives were left out of that conversation, and our country has suffered as a result. We are living in a time when people, especially millennials and Generation Z, are demanding socially-conscious solutions from governments and corporations. We can build a better country and a more just society by engaging with each other in a meaningful way on the root causes of societal problems. That starts with ensuring our voice is heard from the streets of our forgotten cities to the roads of rural communities to Main Street America, and finally, to the halls of power in the public and private sectors.�

Through a lens of economic fairness based upon human rights, Amare offers:

High-level communications strategy and crisis management
Omni-partisan coalition-building and third-party stakeholder management
Grassroots, community and faith-based engagement
Campaign strategy, including but not limited to political, corporate and non-profit
Specialty in socially conscious diversity and inclusion initiatives
Influencer strategy and engagement on their social justice priorities
Paid communication services (direct mail, digital services and media services)
These services, and more, will help entities and individuals tap into the socially conscious future happening right now.

�As companies and foundations across the country look for ways to embrace the changing environment in America, Amare will help them ensure they do it right and with trusted partners with real ties to people of color in communities across the country,� Turner said. �I hear from many people that they want to invest in our communities and get it right. Amare is here to help them do just that.�

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Turner is launching her firm with support from partners at Mercury Public Affairs.

�If not now, when, and if not Nina Turner, who?� said Charlie King, a partner at Mercury. �We are investing in Amare Public Affairs not just because we believe in Nina, but because we believe that she brings a necessary presence and perspective to the conversations Americans are having daily. Nina has star power and is a change maker who gets things done, while ensuring that everyone�s voice is heard. This is her moment, but we know it�s just the beginning. We look forward to her success and partnering with her whenever we can.�

Ashley Walker, a Mercury Partner, said, �Women generally and women of color especially are beginning to take their rightful place at decision-making tables in board rooms and campaign headquarters across America. Nina Turner brings a voice that has for far too long been underrepresented and a strategic firepower that more than justifies her place at the table.�

Fabian Nunez, a Mercury Partner, said, �Nina Turner is a national leader who can help build better understanding between all segments of our society. Her work as a state senator, her leadership on the Sanders campaign and her advocacy for progressive causes demonstrate she has the skills needed to bring people together. Mercury is honored to help Nina launch her business and know she will bring tremendous value to all who work with her.�

Mercury is a huge PR firm that serves such savory customers as the Turkish government among others , and it�s involved in deeply shady stuff

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-10-07/former-elected-leaders-nunez-boxer-villaraigosa-mercury-public-affairs posted:

Former Assemblyman Mike Gatto, a Los Angeles Democrat who chaired the Assembly Appropriations Committee, said Mercury�s reputation in the state Capitol was distinct from that of other public affairs firms.

�Mercury actively sought former elected officials. They wanted to expand very fast, and they did,� Gatto said. �They went from, for lack of a better term, a run-of-the-mill lobbying shop that still had significant power to a very, very prestigious shop that transcended lobbying in many ways.�

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He and Kirill Goncharenko, a founding partner of Mercury and a co-plaintiff in the lawsuit, are seeking a declaration that they could continue to work with their clients in California and London, and pursue new opportunities without violating their noncompete clauses, which they argue are illegal in California.

They accuse Omnicom of violating their agreement to allow them to open new offices and for Omnicom to acquire these offices once they met certain benchmarks.

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In the resignation letter, Nu�ez also raises the company�s handling of a nonprofit referred to Mercury by Manafort, who went to prison for crimes stemming from his work on behalf of Ukraine�s former pro-Russian government

working with a Belgium-based entity but refused to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Once the nongovernmental organization was revealed to be funded by a Ukrainian oligarch, Mercury was investigated by federal prosecutors for not registering through FARA and lost clients, including a $1.4-million contract with the nonprofit California Endowment, because of the association with Manafort.

Though Mercury and its personnel were ultimately not prosecuted, the Omnicom-linked law firm ended up settling with the Department of Justice. Omnicom would not allow the personnel to sue, Nu�ez said.

Most public affairs firms have little visibility beyond the close-knit world of political insiders. But Mercury is an exception, said Jessica Levinson, a professor at Loyola Law School, in part because it employed well-known public figures such as Boxer, Villaraigosa and Nu�ez.

�In the public affairs world, that�s the equivalent of having three degrees from an Ivy League,� said Levinson, former president of the Los Angeles Ethics Commission.

Nina Turner sells her image as a champion for the working class and minorities, and power as a politician, to the most powerful private corporations in the world. That is monstrous. Rand Paul probably has a stronger moral compass.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 01:09

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

mawarannahr posted:

Rand Paul probably has a stronger moral compass.

say what you will about turner, i'm not 100% i agree on her intentions, but whatever i don't care

but rand paul's moral compass is whatever gets him elected. the man is utter garbage

# ? Jan 28, 2022 01:35

Johnny Cache Hit: Oct 17, 2011

Wheeee posted:

I�m just looking forward to trump winning in 2024 on his platform of ending the war with russia

# ? Jan 28, 2022 03:35

Lib and let die: Aug 26, 2004

Wheeee posted:

I’m just looking forward to trump winning in 2024 on his platform of ending the war with russia

Oh yeah the democrats screaming about how much he wants to hug and kiss Putin (but obviously not actually homophobically, it will be a debaaaaaate!) is gonna own

# ? Jan 28, 2022 04:34

Cloks: Feb 1, 2013; by Azathoth

i live in Nina Turner's district and I'm willing to sell my vote, for or against, to the highest bidder

# ? Jan 28, 2022 05:18

biceps crimes: Apr 12, 2008

voting for Nina Turner or not voting for her will yield the same result. do you want her career to have a good trajectory and are you willing to spend time helping her with her career? that�s the decision to make. she�ll defer to Nancy pelosi and extend the cast of rotating villains but they will never do anything worthwhile

# ? Jan 28, 2022 06:29

Mind_Taker: May 7, 2007

https://twitter.com/politics_polls/status/1487114693579837440?s=21

:fork:

# ? Jan 28, 2022 18:54

smug jeebus: Oct 26, 2008

Has anyone seen or heard from Kamala since she contracted dementia from Joe last week? Sure would be a shame if this had something to do with the Dems getting destroyed later this year!

# ? Jan 28, 2022 19:08

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

https://twitter.com/SenateMajority/status/1487079769338531853

The democrats are going to be destroyed in 2022.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 19:08

DoubleDonut: Oct 22, 2010; Fallen Rib

Mind_Taker posted:

https://twitter.com/politics_polls/status/1487114693579837440?s=21

loving incredible

# ? Jan 28, 2022 19:34

is pepsi ok: Oct 23, 2002

Mind_Taker posted:

https://twitter.com/politics_polls/status/1487114693579837440?s=21

Miss me yet?

# ? Jan 28, 2022 19:39

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

Mind_Taker posted:

https://twitter.com/politics_polls/status/1487114693579837440?s=21

God I knew he was gonna suck but just lmao he's not even going to reduce harm

# ? Jan 28, 2022 22:55

Mind_Taker: May 7, 2007

Uncle Wemus posted:

God I knew he was gonna suck but just lmao he's not even going to reduce harm

i legit thought he would cancel like $10k of student debt or whatever

i am a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and i like to kiss my own butt

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:04

gimme the GOD DAMN candy: Jul 1, 2007

it's something he could do at any time with no cost to himself that would be incredibly popular. the only reason why biden refuses to do it is because he hates every single poor person. it's not really surprising that the guy who dedicated his life to legislative cruelty is cruel.

i'm really looking forward to the constant impeachments next year (after the dems get destroyed). biden got to be president like he always wanted and that piece of poo poo does not deserve a happy ending.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:13

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

It's funny how the dems were doing better as a crying rump opposition party when Trump was president.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:17

Vim Fuego: Jun 1, 2000; Ultra Carp

Mind_Taker posted:

i legit thought he would cancel like $10k of student debt or whatever

i am a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and i like to kiss my own butt

"If Congress sends him a bill, he's happy to sign it. They haven't sent him a bill on that yet,"

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:22

ram dass in hell: Dec 29, 2019

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

it's something he could do at any time with no cost to himself that would be incredibly popular. the only reason why biden refuses to do it is because he hates every single poor person. it's not really surprising that the guy who dedicated his life to legislative cruelty is cruel.

i'm really looking forward to the constant impeachments next year (after the dems get destroyed). biden got to be president like he always wanted and that piece of poo poo does not deserve a happy ending.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:29

Demon Of The Fall: May 1, 2004; Nap Ghost

legalize weed, forgive student debt, send more money to people. IT WAS SO FUCKIN EASY MAN

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:31

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

it's something he could do at any time with no cost to himself that would be incredibly popular. the only reason why biden refuses to do it is because he hates every single poor person. it's not really surprising that the guy who dedicated his life to legislative cruelty is cruel.

i'm really looking forward to the constant impeachments next year (after the dems get destroyed). biden got to be president like he always wanted and that piece of poo poo does not deserve a happy ending.

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:37

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# ? May 25, 2024 17:58

ex post facho: Oct 25, 2007

Demon Of The Fall posted:

legalize weed, forgive student debt, send more money to people. IT WAS SO FUCKIN EASY MAN

all of these things would displease number

# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:41

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