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DaysBefore posted:Sadly Kislev isn't allowed to be shown off at all until like the week before release. Trust me, I'm jonesing for some Kislev videos too! They did put a five minute video out the other day that briefly went over a few mechanics on the Total War Youtube channel "week before release" meaning next Thursday. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:January 19th - Cathay (Miao Ying) + 9th Lord (Daemon Prince)
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Jan 28, 2022 15:07
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Oh I mixed up Ogres and Kislev! Sorry!
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Jan 28, 2022 15:10
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Legend is great if you want to watch a guy pull off a magic bullshit trick where he wins a 1v4 and get thorough explanations of his reasoning. This is also great because you can learn some of his tricks and employ them once or twice a campaign to recover from an honest to God game over screen disaster situation. You can always win Legendary/VH if you really want to with non cheese armies and even melee centric ones, it's just going to vary depending on what your personal gamer honor allows and whether or not you're any good at the diplomacy shuffle circa TWWH2. And be a lot harder. Looking forward to being blind and uncertain in WH3 again.
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Jan 28, 2022 15:20
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm happy as long as we don't get loving Shogun 2 clone Nippon. I know lots of people want literal Shogun 2 clone Nippon too, which makes me even angrier. Please by god any kind of fantasy Japan besides that. This is the hill I die on. Partner with From, bring me Sekiro Nippon. Headless apparitions, gigantic snake monstrous unit, hero who's got only 5 health but also 150 melee defence, flamethrower dudes, Taro Troop monstrous infantry. gently caress yes.
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Jan 28, 2022 15:21
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Muscle Tracer posted:Partner with From, bring me Sekiro Nippon. Headless apparitions, gigantic snake monstrous unit, hero who's got only 5 health but also 150 melee defence, flamethrower dudes, Taro Troop monstrous infantry. gently caress yes. Let me use the screaming cow with a flaming headdress log to break gates, formations. 
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Jan 28, 2022 15:22
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Doomykins posted:Legend is great if you want to watch a guy pull off a magic bullshit trick where he wins a 1v4 and get thorough explanations of his reasoning. This is also great because you can learn some of his tricks and employ them once or twice a campaign to recover from an honest to God game over screen disaster situation. I am under the impression it is impossible to lose on Very Hard because (almost) every faction’s capital province is impregnable past Tier 3. So worst case scenario, the entire world is united against you but can’t do anything about it because you can’t actually be knocked out of the game. Whether it would be annoying or worth it to try and win, that’s a different story.
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Jan 28, 2022 15:37
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https://youtu.be/e36ceB1Uh_8 Legend is good folks
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Jan 28, 2022 16:08
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I do wonder if Kislev underwent a slight rework with how oddly secretive they've been about it, considering it was one of the first faction reveals.
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Jan 28, 2022 16:15
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ZombyDog posted:I like when he switches to Ikit Claw voice because that means he's enjoying himself and I think that's always something important to get across when making watchable streams. This is generally what I get out of strategy guides from well informed people who explain the mental models behind their reasoning. I still want to make cool armies smash against other cool armies but it’s useful to learn the most efficient ways of doing things tj have an understanding of what I’m deviating from to do the things I want to do and why I’m losing. There’s a lot of counter intuitive things about the game or strategies that the in game missions seem to advocate for that are actually bad ideas. The game doesn’t do a great job of teaching you about itself. So learning from people who understand the game well enough to break it in half can help a lot.
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Jan 28, 2022 16:32
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*stares dead-eyed at you, mutters in monotone* Kislev.
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Jan 28, 2022 16:39
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Doomykins posted:Let me use the screaming cow with a flaming headdress log to break gates, formations. Flaming pigs 2.0! Particularly effective against Ind and their Haa'thee elephant cavalry.
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Jan 28, 2022 16:45
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm happy as long as we don't get loving Shogun 2 clone Nippon. I know lots of people want literal Shogun 2 clone Nippon too, which makes me even angrier. Please by god any kind of fantasy Japan besides that. This is the hill I die on. I only want “Shogun 2 has invaded Warhammer” Nippon with glitch monsters like the Dominions Mod nation Szumogliika Otherwise gimme Heian period with every yokai in the book. Make a nurgling type unit out of the hundred year old bric-a-brac tsukumogami
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Jan 28, 2022 16:55
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Watching Chaos Undivided is really hyping me up to play it, so many units to play with. Also a neat video https://youtu.be/XB7odiP_2EA
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Jan 28, 2022 16:58
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Triskelli posted:I only want “Shogun 2 has invaded Warhammer” Nippon with glitch monsters like the Dominions Mod nation Szumogliika
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Jan 28, 2022 17:01
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Terrible Opinions posted:This would unironically be a good way to include Pontus. Mithradates IV shows up with the head of a plague toad mounted on his spear and the Rome 2 thousand yard stare  “You did not want me, yet I arrive”
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Jan 28, 2022 17:22
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Muscle Tracer posted:Partner with From, bring me Sekiro Nippon. Headless apparitions, gigantic snake monstrous unit, hero who's got only 5 health but also 150 melee defence, flamethrower dudes, Taro Troop monstrous infantry. gently caress yes.
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Jan 28, 2022 17:38
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Multiple streamers have alluded to their “favorite faction” being one they can’t talk about so I’m wondering if Kislev or Ogres rock.
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Jan 28, 2022 17:45
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Twigand Berries posted:Multiple streamers have alluded to their “favorite faction” being one they can’t talk about so I’m wondering if Kislev or Ogres rock. Or Slaanesh.
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Jan 28, 2022 17:49
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Dr Christmas posted:When I switched onto Legend's stream today, he was powerleveling a Herald by having it repeatedly attack a full Dwarf army with only a Beast of Nurgle for accompaniment, and then immediately retreating. Triskelli posted:Mithradates IV shows up with the head of a plague toad mounted on his spear and the Rome 2 thousand yard stare
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Jan 28, 2022 17:55
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I wonder how good Settra on his chariot will be against the deamons. It does get magic attacks, right?
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Jan 28, 2022 17:58
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:What the nehek? How did that work? Does the herald have a ranged attack that he would spam, then retreat? And he would get XP for the kills? If one faction is garrisoned in a harbor and attack a faction next to it at sea, they can lose an unlimited number of battles. The faction at sea was dwarves with ranged units, so they would just bunch up and wait for Legend (Nurgle) to come to them since he didn't have any ranged units, only a Herald of Nurgle lord and a Beast of Nurgle. So he initiated the battle and instantly withdraw, which gave his lord a bunch of xp. It also gave the dwarf lord a bit of xp but not as much, and the dwarf lord wasn't that strong anyway. Rinse and repeat until the Herald is sufficiently leveled and can get a flying mount. Then Legend murdered the two ranged units and then flew around murdering the leftover melee forces. As an added bonus you can turn the Herald into a Great Unclean One at level 15, which wipes any bad traits the Herald got from retreating so much. Winklebottom fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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Jan 28, 2022 18:21
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lol I wouldn't watch myself do that
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Jan 28, 2022 18:23
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Mordja posted:I do wonder if Kislev underwent a slight rework with how oddly secretive they've been about it, considering it was one of the first faction reveals. Maybe. The promo video they put out this week at least kept the "pick a rite" and the Ice Court training process, though they implied that was Katarin-only.
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Jan 28, 2022 18:25
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Twigand Berries posted:lol I wouldn't watch myself do that luckily I watched the stream after it was live so I could skip the hour it took him to do it
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Jan 28, 2022 18:26
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Winklebottom posted:If one faction is garrisoned in a harbor and attack a faction next to it at sea, they can lose an unlimited number of battles. The faction at sea was dwarves with ranged units, so they would just bunch up and wait for Legend (Nurgle) to come to them since he didn't have any ranged units, only a Herald of Nurgle lord and a Beast of Nurgle. So he initiated the battle and instantly withdraw, which gave his lord a bunch of xp. It also gave the dwarf lord a bit of xp but not as much, and the dwarf lord wasn't that strong anyway. Rinse and repeat until the Herald is sufficiently leveled and can get a flying mount. Then Legend murdered the two ranged units and then flew around murdering the leftover melee forces.  Thank you for the explanation, but, thats just ridiculous.
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Jan 28, 2022 18:52
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CA: "I'm going to pay you to sweep this floor, and you get paid per sweep of the brush, but only sweeps that cover unsweeped sections of the floor count." Legend: "Ok, let me get my toothpick with a single bristle attached to it."
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Jan 28, 2022 19:19
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I think Turin is too busy talking about the new game to come across as corny at all or he’s toned it down.
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Jan 28, 2022 19:33
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:
Legend gaming, baby. I would never play the way Legend does, but his streams are entertaining for a look at the most counterintuitive way to play a video game out there
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Jan 28, 2022 19:35
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Twigand Berries posted:I think Turin is too busy talking about the new game to come across as corny at all or he’s toned it down. He's toned it down a little because of the AoE IV streams, where there's just less stuff with those types of connections. He still does it a fair bit, but all I can really do is roll my eyes when he quips "69, that's what she said" because it's so goofy harmless. Angrymantium posted:Legend gaming, baby. Yeah, I like going through his vods and video uploads because I can skip the 15 minutes of dodging missiles, but when he gets a real nailbiter that pushes him hard it's fun to see how he tackles it. Recently there was an all-ranged army with little AP that ran into a slower army with lots of shields and his patience in pulling each unit to get them shot in the back and save his ammo was impressive.
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Jan 28, 2022 19:44
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Chakan posted:
Yeah not all of his stuff is tedious, and leads to him winning ridiculously lopp-sided battles that feel like they're going the other way right up until the end. He defended a settlement during his Norsca stream a few days ago by luring some wood elf way watchers away from the rest of the army with regenerating trolls, and turned a decisive or crushing defeat rating into a close victory, over a single settlement. I would probably just let something like that go and bring an army back or something out of laziness, but Legend just refuses to be inefficient, ever.
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Jan 28, 2022 19:51
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Angrymantium posted:Yeah not all of his stuff is tedious, and leads to him winning ridiculously lopp-sided battles that feel like they're going the other way right up until the end. He defended a settlement during his Norsca stream a few days ago by luring some wood elf way watchers away from the rest of the army with regenerating trolls, and turned a decisive or crushing defeat rating into a close victory, over a single settlement. I would probably just let something like that go and bring an army back or something out of laziness, but Legend just refuses to be inefficient, ever.
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Jan 28, 2022 19:58
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AnEdgelord posted:https://youtu.be/e36ceB1Uh_8 I'm the nurgling dancing in the poop shower. 
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Jan 28, 2022 19:59
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Ravenfood posted:Efficient isn't the word I would use. Certainly not time-efficient. Still impressive. Efficient in the unit preservation/not spending money on recruiting more units if you can keep the ones you have healthy sense. Someone upthread commented on him doing ridiculous maneuvers to keep his units at 95% health instead of autoresolving to bring them down to 87% which is a pretty concise indication of how insistent he is on getting as much out of his troops and in game resources as possible while ignoring how much time it actually takes to accomplish that.
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Jan 28, 2022 20:09
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Does.... he have a job? Or is he making enough money streaming to not need to?
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Jan 28, 2022 20:12
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 Nurglings are this, except the trenchcoat is actually poop.
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Jan 28, 2022 20:20
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ItalianSpartacus seems like an okay guy if you want someone who just kinda plays the game. Plus he comes off like a lore nerd so that's cool. Haven't been watching him very long though so sorry if he turns out to be like a weirdo or something!!
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Jan 28, 2022 20:33
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Does.... he have a job? Or is he making enough money streaming to not need to? Streaming is his job. He is a busker for our entertainment. He makes money with "super chat"s where people spend money to highlight comments or questions.
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Jan 28, 2022 20:39
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Does.... he have a job? Or is he making enough money streaming to not need to? Apparently he works the graveyard shift, which is why he can stream during the day
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doingitwrong posted:Streaming is his job. He is a busker for our entertainment. He makes money with "super chat"s where people spend money to highlight comments or questions. he gets a lot of those, which is great, more money for him, but since he insists on reading them aloud the moment they're posted it interrupts the flow of the stream so much. I wish he would take a gameplay break to read them once in a while or something. "So the key strategy for Cathay is moving the- John Johnson sent a 5 dollar super chat 'Thank you so much for streaming. I've been following you for five years and named my dog after you. Can you tell me how to play Lizardmen in WHII??' Thanks so much for the super chat! If you wanna play Lizardmen you...." and on and on it goes. He tries to cut the answers down but there's so many.
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