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Mzuri
Jun 5, 2004

Who's the boss?
Dudes is lost.
Don't think coz I'm iced out,
I'm cooled off.

goatface posted:

Culture leak. Goons get everywhere and we scatter our memetic baggage as we go.

Better that than the genetic kind :downsgun:

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Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

I think the brown ale is fine. Not the best I've ever had but it'll be sellable at least.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Quality, low-ish (2-3%) percentage brown ale is a beautiful thing that I rarely find. It's an excellent session beer imo.

h34rts
Aug 3, 2012

I drink coffee because
I need it and I drink gin
because I deserve it.
Lipstick Apathy

wilderthanmild posted:

This morning I noticed my work slack has a LOT of goon smilies. I wanna go around yelling SHOW YOURSELF! until I find the goon.

it was me :toot:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

interwhat posted:

That's what im thinking, but it's a little more complicated. The whole facility is surrounded with barbed wire and requires clearance from manager to security to get a non company vehicle in and out. I have about 600-700 pounds of tools + toolbox I have to get out of there, probably close to $40,000 worth of my career instruments. They've refused entry to local police, and a Snap-On guy trying to repo a toolbox some mush mouth stopped paying on. I fully expect games to be played, so I'm probably forced to play ball a little bit. I'll try to leave it open ended, like, hey here's my two weeks, can you let security know I'll come by one day this week to move my box, but I'm not sure about my transport's availability, and just roll that day. Definitely going to burn my remaining vacation and sick time before I go.

Folks remember, if an employer in your industry promises poo poo no one else does, it's for sure going to come at a price, and you're most likely not gonna like it.

Edit: also, if 6am shift start plus a 1 hour commute seems rough, can confirm.

Can't you just turn up with a truck and say you need to take your personal property out for refurb and reorganization?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



interwhat posted:

That's what im thinking, but it's a little more complicated. The whole facility is surrounded with barbed wire and requires clearance from manager to security to get a non company vehicle in and out. I have about 600-700 pounds of tools + toolbox I have to get out of there, probably close to $40,000 worth of my career instruments. They've refused entry to local police, and a Snap-On guy trying to repo a toolbox some mush mouth stopped paying on. I fully expect games to be played, so I'm probably forced to play ball a little bit. I'll try to leave it open ended, like, hey here's my two weeks, can you let security know I'll come by one day this week to move my box, but I'm not sure about my transport's availability, and just roll that day. Definitely going to burn my remaining vacation and sick time before I go.

Folks remember, if an employer in your industry promises poo poo no one else does, it's for sure going to come at a price, and you're most likely not gonna like it.

Edit: also, if 6am shift start plus a 1 hour commute seems rough, can confirm.

It's your property, can't you at least get some of it out ahead of time?

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod


McGavin posted:

I always pitch my sour brown directly into the toilet.

Sour brown, texture like scum
Laying it down, with my mind it runs
Throughout the night, no need to frown
With sour brown

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Son of Rodney posted:

Sour brown, texture like scum
Laying it down, with my mind it runs
Throughout the night, no need to frown
With sour brown

Beautiful. Tie me to that mast

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

McGavin posted:

I always pitch my sour brown directly into the toilet.

That's a weird nickname for your mouth

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


wilderthanmild posted:

This morning I noticed my work slack has a LOT of goon smilies. I wanna go around yelling SHOW YOURSELF! until I find the goon.

Slack will tell you who added the smiles.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Add a smile of some stairs

also how tf do we not have a smile with stairs?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Outrail posted:

Add a smile of some stairs

also how tf do we not have a smile with stairs?

Because we're not a bunch of loving goons

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Outrail posted:

also how tf do we not have a smile with stairs?

Because we are protected.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Volmarias posted:

Because we're not a bunch of loving goons

Speak for yourself, I'm three goons duct-taped into a baggy sweater and a pair of JNCOs

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

wilderthanmild posted:

This morning I noticed my work slack has a LOT of goon smilies. I wanna go around yelling SHOW YOURSELF! until I find the goon.

i added a bunch to our slack before I left my last job :twisted:

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

what's the point of even having smilies if there's no :clint:

Mantle
May 15, 2004

wilderthanmild posted:

This morning I noticed my work slack has a LOT of goon smilies. I wanna go around yelling SHOW YOURSELF! until I find the goon.

Is there a quick way to do this? I want to add some to my work slack

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

I have worked for 2 companies that used slack. The first job sort of sucked, but they used the program sparingly and in a way that made actual sense. The second place it was a tool for the narcissist boss to bombard people with messages, sometimes at like 5 am.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Slotducks posted:

um excuse me i can type soj 4 ral faster than u can and i learned how to program a bot at age 12 thanks to diablo 2


edit: moo moo mooo

I never played D2 online/multiplayer so I don't even know what SOJ means (Soul of something?), but whenever I hear ANYONE ask for ANYTHING an ancient 320p screenshot of D2 with the chat text GIEV SOJ flashes through my mind. It won't stop I can't make it stop :(

Outrail posted:

Hit send at 9:01 and give them five minutes' notice, should be enough time to get out of the building and never look back.

Clear your poo poo out the day before and just schedule Outlook to send it at 9:00 :getin:

wilderthanmild posted:

This morning I noticed my work slack has a LOT of goon smilies. I wanna go around yelling SHOW YOURSELF! until I find the goon.

Do you have stairs in your office?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

interwhat posted:

That's what im thinking, but it's a little more complicated. The whole facility is surrounded with barbed wire and requires clearance from manager to security to get a non company vehicle in and out. I have about 600-700 pounds of tools + toolbox I have to get out of there, probably close to $40,000 worth of my career instruments.
Can I ask in what kind of helljob you've lended 40 grand worth of your own equipment to the company?

Could you borrow a company vehicle to take your stuff home if that makes it easier?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
It’s not at all uncommon for mechanics to have $50-100K worth of their own tools and toolboxes at their workplace.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

High tolerance or specialised tools are mucho dineros.

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude

Collateral Damage posted:

Can I ask in what kind of helljob you've lended 40 grand worth of your own equipment to the company?

Could you borrow a company vehicle to take your stuff home if that makes it easier?

Automotive Technician. I'm kind of on the low side for 10 years in, because I realized tool salesman are evil and skills and knowledge makes me more money than a tool does. There's also somebody with a mortage payment of a tool bill at 22% that probably has that tool I can borrow. One of the last tools I purchased from S(t)rap-On was a digital 1/2" drive torque wrench for $550. It's paid for by the couple dozen subaru head gasket jobs I've done in the last two years.

I sort of had an epiphany after doing a pre-employment screening for my last employer(a Jag/Land Rover dealer) yesterday. I get paid by the hour by my current evil corporation employer, and do very little work. Going back to a dealer means going back to flat-rate pay, and a lot more physical labor. I'd essentially be going back to struggling for what basically will end up being the same money at the end of the year. There's a lot of pressure to be The Best in this industry, and I have at least 3 dealers in my pocket that would have me back tomorrow if I wanted, but none of them will step up and guarantee me a stable income, because they just can't stand the idea of paying someone to be there. Everything is pay scale, bonus, and survey driven. If I remind myself that I'm more than just a mechanic, and my life is more meaningful than what I do for a paycheck, I feel okay again. It's a daily struggle.

Stuck at Carvana I guess. Don't blame me if you bought a turd from them, I'm farrrrr from the last person to sign off on cars.

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

interwhat posted:

Automotive Technician. I'm kind of on the low side for 10 years in, because I realized tool salesman are evil and skills and knowledge makes me more money than a tool does. There's also somebody with a mortage payment of a tool bill at 22% that probably has that tool I can borrow. One of the last tools I purchased from S(t)rap-On was a digital 1/2" drive torque wrench for $550. It's paid for by the couple dozen subaru head gasket jobs I've done in the last two years.

I sort of had an epiphany after doing a pre-employment screening for my last employer(a Jag/Land Rover dealer) yesterday. I get paid by the hour by my current evil corporation employer, and do very little work. Going back to a dealer means going back to flat-rate pay, and a lot more physical labor. I'd essentially be going back to struggling for what basically will end up being the same money at the end of the year. There's a lot of pressure to be The Best in this industry, and I have at least 3 dealers in my pocket that would have me back tomorrow if I wanted, but none of them will step up and guarantee me a stable income, because they just can't stand the idea of paying someone to be there. Everything is pay scale, bonus, and survey driven. If I remind myself that I'm more than just a mechanic, and my life is more meaningful than what I do for a paycheck, I feel okay again. It's a daily struggle.

Stuck at Carvana I guess. Don't blame me if you bought a turd from them, I'm farrrrr from the last person to sign off on cars.

Auto techs can make some serious swish. $40 an hour plus any efficiency bonuses. The toolbox stuff is very predatory though.

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude
I've worked with techs that cleared over 6 figures for sure, but only one I've ever met was an actual diagnostic tech. There's always one tech in any shop that makes good money, but I promise you, that major service you paid for got done in an hour, and those little things on the maintenance sheet you received with your bill such as "lubricate door straps, clean out windshield cowl, check tire pressure sensor battery life, full control module fault scan" absolutely do not get done by that guy. Hell you're lucky if your tires get rotated or the tire pressure gets reset. Your spare tire is most definitely sitting at 18psi. There's an old saying: The more you know, the less you make. The veteran tech that stays sharp with technology gets all the warranty diagnosis cars. Big shocker: the manufacturer pays the bill on warranty jobs, and they don't pay dick, and are extremely quick to deny labor claims like "you can't claim .10 time units for a road test when you didn't need to drive the vehicle for a software update." Oh no did you brick that car due to faulty update file and spend a day trying to bring it back to life? Sucks, sorry. That guy making six figures in the shop does as much lying, cheating, and stealing a possible to make that paycheck, and doesn't matter his diag cars keep coming back, because he turns more hours than anyone in the shop, which means he makes the most money for the dealership, so what ends up happening is he gets all the easy gravy from dispatch. All the while, gets to walk around like his poo poo don't stink, but absolutely would not cut it at an independent shop.

I grossed $86k in 2019, my best year, but for maximum work life balance, I'll be stuck around $70k for some time. The technician shortage will hopefully get worse so maybe things will change. I'd like to make 6 figures, but I'm comfortable with what I make now, and I take too much pride in my work to basically steal all the time

interwhat fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 29, 2022

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

interwhat posted:

I sort of had an epiphany after doing a pre-employment screening for my last employer(a Jag/Land Rover dealer) yesterday. I get paid by the hour by my current evil corporation employer, and do very little work. Going back to a dealer means going back to flat-rate pay, and a lot more physical labor. I'd essentially be going back to struggling for what basically will end up being the same money at the end of the year. There's a lot of pressure to be The Best in this industry, and I have at least 3 dealers in my pocket that would have me back tomorrow if I wanted, but none of them will step up and guarantee me a stable income, because they just can't stand the idea of paying someone to be there. Everything is pay scale, bonus, and survey driven. If I remind myself that I'm more than just a mechanic, and my life is more meaningful than what I do for a paycheck, I feel okay again. It's a daily struggle.

I hear you, I made a bunch of money when I had my own shop, but the constant grinding stress got to me and I sold out and worked flat rate for awhile, but I wasn’t getting any younger, so eventually I did well enough at several interviews to get a state job. The pay is only OK, but the benefits are very good and the stress is nearly non-existent. If takes an extra day to do something? No big deal, there’s no screaming customers and harried service writers, just a boring stream of generic fleetmobiles with easy-to-diagnose issues.

Also, and you touched on this, but flat rate is loving evil, it poisons every facet of automotive service, and the only people that benefit are scumbag dealership owners and a few hot-poo poo techs that are buddy-buddy with the bosses. Everybody else gets hosed, the consumers get shittier service, the whole concept is a scam.
When I had my own shop, I paid hourly wages to everybody, and when we had a good week, everybody got a $100 bill in addition to their paycheck. gently caress flat rate.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



bee posted:

So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

The effort this guy puts into not working is pretty impressive.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

bee posted:

So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

HR and the higher ups must be OPs at r/relationships or something 'cause they don't have a loving spine, lmao.

"The monitors cause inflammation." WHAT? Would they not cause inflammation at the office too? This dude's just gonna cash a check for doing nothing and nobody's gonna stop him, lmao

Skrill.exe
Oct 3, 2007

"Bitcoin is a new financial concept entirely without precedent."

bee posted:

So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

I liked this guy during the desk arc but now I LOVE this guy during the mask arc.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Everyone just powerless to make this man work somehow. I am loving dying.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Batterypowered7 posted:

HR and the higher ups must be OPs at r/relationships or something 'cause they don't have a loving spine, lmao.

"The monitors cause inflammation." WHAT? Would they not cause inflammation at the office too? This dude's just gonna cash a check for doing nothing and nobody's gonna stop him, lmao

I find it funny how many posters in this thread were morally outraged that bee expressed doubts about this guy's demand for a desk, only to have that doubt confirmed by an escalation of work-refusal tactics from the same guy.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Oh no he isn't creating surplus value

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



evilpicard posted:

Oh no he isn't creating surplus value

Neither do landlords.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



CaptainSarcastic posted:

The effort this guy puts into not working is pretty impressive.

we should all look up to him as an inspiration tbh

Betty Wight
Jan 1, 2022

bee posted:

So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

Incredible

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Aye Doc posted:

we should all look up to him as an inspiration tbh

He's probably going to end up in middle management, so that tempers it a bit.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

bee posted:

So the "I can't work from home unless you give me a desk" guy got a desk. And some monitors. And some adjustable monitor arms. But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation" and he refuses to come into the office because he has a mask exemption and the workplace has a policy right now that says you need to wear a mask because our organisation primarily deals with vulnerable people. He's in a customer-facing role. Someone higher up than me has advised that it's ok for him to come into work without a mask but he says he can't because he's going to be at risk because he's not wearing a mask.

:shepicide:

Buy him some yellow lens gamer glasses

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Fly you beautiful Icarus.

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BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


bee posted:

But now he can't work from home because the monitors are causing "inflammation"

The monitor is? How?!

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