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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's something he could do at any time with no cost to himself that would be incredibly popular. the only reason why biden refuses to do it is because he hates every single poor person. it's not really surprising that the guy who dedicated his life to legislative cruelty is cruel.
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https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1487089658118885380 - call your hypercapitalist opponents socialists - go to war with any sufficiently poor country for any reason - party doesn't actually believe the government should exist - make a big stink about culture war bullshit you have no intention of encoding into law - primary arguments against opponents are "he's so gay" and "he didn't go to war" no wonder the dems love Dubya now, they're indistinguishable from the Bush-era GOP
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Thoguh posted:https://twitter.com/SenateMajority/status/1487079769338531853 That's pretty wild considering she sent IA State Patrol to Texas to help stop immigrants.
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Homocow posted:they're so bad at politics lmao I’m imagining the ending of the Goy’s Teeth scene from A Serious Man except the rabbi is talking about Joe Biden becoming president Gopnik: So what happened to America? Nachtner: America?? Who cares?
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Legal weed and more stimulus money are like the most popular loving things you can imagine I mean over 2/3 of Americans want both of those in our supposedly toxically polarized political climate There is unity. There is a consensus. It's just not about things the political establishment want to actually give the people and for some reason we can't make these things happen with the process
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And Dems are loving pathetic that they can't even attempt to pander and by pander I mean give the American people some very basic poo poo
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Demon Of The Fall posted:legalize weed, forgive student debt, send more money to people. IT WAS SO FUCKIN EASY MAN it's such a softball political issue and they still somehow completely whiffed at it the dems are a paradox to me, getting repeatedly destroyed yet somehow continuing to exist 
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Homocow posted:the weed one always gets me. weed is super popular right now, increasingly so too racist to do it
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mawarannahr posted:too racist to do it That and slowing down Americas rampant for profit carceral system would break our economy even further in a lot of areas.
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actual economist expert in the definitely actual real science of economicism here, with a phd, md, edd, dba from the koch school at the vanderbilt institute of upnumber at yaprincevard (chicago campus). socialism is when government bad,
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CaptainACAB posted:That and slowing down Americas rampant for profit carceral system would break our economy even further in a lot of areas. Recall that harris as california AG, Harris fought every proposal for how to comply with a court order to draw down CA's prison system to not-cruel-and-unusual-punishment overcrowding levels on this very basis. The famous defense re: california firefighters was that if the court forced them to implement double-good-behavior days for people who weren't actively fighting fires, then either nobody would fight fires because who wants to die for a shorter sentence if they don't have to, or they'd have to offer TRIPLE good behavior days for firefighters and they'd burn through their eligible supply of prisoners. CA cannot deal with widlfires without a supply of young, in-shape slaves to do it for them, as we found out in 2020.
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economy smart guy here. socialism when do government bad stuff.
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https://twitter.com/sirkodnap/status/1487170229063061505?t=4jOokLWUW73nv5rdzZ1lhw&s=19 https://twitter.com/sirkodnap/status/1487249353274183681?t=zlZhn3-1HgQiSqQj7NlSXA&s=19 I don't know how these people get their pants on in the morning
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Look its not that biden just hates poor people, though he undoubtedly does. Its all this inflation folks. The poor are doing well, in fact too well, and all this money is sloshing around and our great businesses can't keep up with all this genuine american demand. I mean my goodness, if we don't restart loan payments, if we don't end these spending programs, its gonna be hyperinflation central jack. Zimbabwe and Weimar Republic rolled into one.
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30.5 Days posted:Recall that harris as california AG, Harris fought every proposal for how to comply with a court order to draw down CA's prison system to not-cruel-and-unusual-punishment overcrowding levels on this very basis. The famous defense re: california firefighters was that if the court forced them to implement double-good-behavior days for people who weren't actively fighting fires, then either nobody would fight fires because who wants to die for a shorter sentence if they don't have to, or they'd have to offer TRIPLE good behavior days for firefighters and they'd burn through their eligible supply of prisoners. CA cannot deal with widlfires without a supply of young, in-shape slaves to do it for them, as we found out in 2020. Its so hosed up, its so public too. They deserve to burn.
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Acelerion posted:Look its not that biden just hates poor people, though he undoubtedly does. Its all this inflation folks. The poor are doing well, in fact too well, and all this money is sloshing around and our great businesses can't keep up with all this genuine american demand. Hyperinflation is good for borrowers and bad for lenders and I'll give you three guesses which one of those two the biden administration gives a single gently caress about
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Pretty sure there's like a 10 minute window of opportunity where you can haul a wheelbarrow of useless money down to the bank and be like hello Mr bank I would like to pay off my mortgage right now but the thing is you have to time it just exactly precisely right or it's not gonna work
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Femur posted:Its so hosed up, its so public too. They deserve to burn. hm how about we reward them with a sinecure instead
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30.5 Days posted:Recall that harris as california AG, Harris fought every proposal for how to comply with a court order to draw down CA's prison system to not-cruel-and-unusual-punishment overcrowding levels on this very basis. The famous defense re: california firefighters was that if the court forced them to implement double-good-behavior days for people who weren't actively fighting fires, then either nobody would fight fires because who wants to die for a shorter sentence if they don't have to, or they'd have to offer TRIPLE good behavior days for firefighters and they'd burn through their eligible supply of prisoners. CA cannot deal with widlfires without a supply of young, in-shape slaves to do it for them, as we found out in 2020. She was caught on camera laughing about it too
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Has a prior president ever had such a bad term that they had to get two different pets? Like oh no new dog isn’t cutting it, time to bring out the cat.
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Paladin posted:Has a prior president ever had such a bad term that they had to get two different pets? Like oh no new dog isn’t cutting it, time to bring out the cat. Teddy maybe?
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That dude who rode a water buffalo.
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Mind_Taker posted:i legit thought he would cancel like $10k of student debt or whatever I thought he’s be a awful technocrat who like Obama just hep the ship of state barley floating, not a doddering moron. Good thing I voted for Kanye. Also I miss Trump as at least he was funny.
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the four years liberals pretended they were against Trump's immigration policies were wild
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:economy smart guy here. socialism when do government bad stuff.
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Best Friends posted:the four years liberals pretended they were against Trump's immigration policies were wild 
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ex post facho posted:all of these things would displease number not really imo, each would hypercharge the economy. Just not the for the people Biden actually considers people tho
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sometimes I think about how Biden could cancel student loan debt, and then I remember that Democratic talking heads claim it's bad politics to cancel student debt because it would help a few rich Ivy league dropouts in addition to helping millions of poor people, and that would be bad optics to people who never went to college. And then I think, you know what, take somebody like FDR, you could make that criticism against probably every New Deal program, this one was targeted at farmers, that one was targeted at workers, that one was targeted at people living in the Tennessee Valley, this one was targeted at old people, this one was targeted at poor people. If you took any one of those programs in isolation, you could tut-tut about how FDR was doing bad politics because he was enacting a program that would only benefit one group of people and surely all the other groups of people would get mad about it. Except they didn't, because he enacted all those programs together, at the same time, and everyone benefited from some of them. Everyone saw the government doing something to help them, and so they didn't mind that the government was doing something to help other people as well. This way of running the state not only helped the whole society, it also encouraged the members of society to see themselves as a society where helping one group of people isn't a zero-sum game where everyone else loses. Instead, it encouraged a view of the world that we're all in it together, we should all be pitching in to help society as a whole, and even if we don't benefit from any one specific thing, we should do it anyway because it will benefit other people, society will overall be better off, and those other people will in turn support the thing that benefits us. But the basic problem with this is that the Democrats have given up on governing and are either uninterested in or incapable of doing sweeping programs like that. They know they're going to accomplish at most like one thing a year, they don't have the desire or the capacity to do ten things at once like FDR could do, and so they negotiate themselves out of doing anything at all because when you're calculating politics based on only accomplishing one single thing then of course it's going to piss off people who don't benefit. What they don't get is that the solution to that isn't to do nothing, it's to do everything. It's not to help no one because you worry that helping someone might anger the people who don't get helped, it's to help everyone. Just loving do it. There's a reason FDR is the most popular president in American history, and it's because he actually loving helped people. He made their lives materially better and as a result he was elected president in four consecutive landslides. Jesus loving christ. Anyway tl;dr that the democrats are going to get destroyed in 2022
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The dems talk about how the new deal was the of the greatest things the USA has done and ended up being wildly popular but for some reason we can't do those same things now.
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yeah it's well-documented that democrats will self-negotiated and means test every program until it's worthless. making any program non-universal just gives rich people a toehold to attack it further. it's why social security remains popular; it's much more culturally unassailable than 90s welfare for instance
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papersack posted:The dems talk about how the new deal was the of the greatest things the USA has done and ended up being wildly popular but for some reason we can't do those same things now. the thing that makes me legitimately angry at it when I think too much, rather than just laughing at how we're all hosed, is that this isn't loving rocket science. You just help people. It's the right thing to do, it's the popular thing to do, and it's the thing that wins elections. Everyone can see this, they just refuse to do it because it doesn't benefit the rich. It's loving atrocious
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the new deal was incredibly racist sweaty. almost as bad as slavery if you think about it. it was so racist that even if we did another new deal that wasn't racist, it would still be racist. that's how racist the new deal was. also you can't spell "new deal" with just the letters in lgbtqia2s+ which should give you some idea of how bad the new deal was
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but yeah the new deal was the best thing ever too ofc. biden is the next fdr for sure. most progressive prez ever. unless you're not into that, in which case he's kinda like reagan
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Would a New Deal that wasn't racist end racism?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Would a New Deal that wasn't racist end racism? chad-ishly:] Yes.  ] *sputters* well um ah, fact checkers, uh, get to work!
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and like I'm not pretending that FDR was Lenin in disguise, the guy was a capitalist to his bones and wasn't about to seize the means of production, but he's still the model the Democratic Party pretend they want to emulate so he can be the standard by which they're measured and found wanting
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Would a New Deal that wasn't racist end racism? houston would have nicer sidewalks at least
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