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Why are entrance themes with the sounds of bells allowed? What if someone got confused and thought the match was over when JBL entered the Royal Rumble?
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So I've been uploading this to youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sETLMlteY7Q And I realize, I have no idea what the provenance of this is. How did UWFI get (what appears to be) syndicated television in the US, and how does this relate to the PPV they ran?
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There's actually more random Japanese wrestling that got on TV outside Japan than you'd think: Bix is probably the person that might be able to answer with specifics but I know AJW was on some US TV stations in the 80s since there are tapes going around with (terrible) English commentary on them; Eurosport had NJPW for periods in the 90s/2000s as well plus I think inherited these then-ancient UWFi tapes at some point. I have vague memories of reading that this TV and the actually PPV weren't linked and the former came well after the fact but I could be wrong - the PPV was entirely on capitalise on the UFC by presenting UWFi as real: I believe they did a few PPVs and the first sold alright but then people realised that it wasn't a shoot plus the rules didn't get over and so follow-ups didn't work. The TV I'm sure followed years later and might have just been someone seeing the names on those shows; getting the tapes for cheap and packaging them up for syndication or a cheap TV deal but again that could be wrong and I'm conflating two different things.
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I do remember the 90's UWFi with Vader being on TSN in Canada called Bushido
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I do remember the 90's UWFi with Vader being on TSN in Canada called Bushido They used to air UWFI before RAW sometimes, it's how I realized Takeda and Tamura ruled
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Smoking Crow posted:So I've been uploading this to youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sETLMlteY7Q IceAgeComing posted:There's actually more random Japanese wrestling that got on TV outside Japan than you'd think: Bix is probably the person that might be able to answer with specifics but I know AJW was on some US TV stations in the 80s since there are tapes going around with (terrible) English commentary on them; Eurosport had NJPW for periods in the 90s/2000s as well plus I think inherited these then-ancient UWFi tapes at some point. As for other promotions: All Japan Women's most prominent American TV deal was with Tempo Television, the former Satellite Program Network, a smallish general entertainment network based out of Tulsa. The show ran in approximately 1986-1987 and I have VERY vague memories of watching it as a very small child. Tempo was in enough homes that NBC bought them to help launch CNBC, which would later be bolstered by the purchase of FNN, which was also in a lot of homes. As a result, CNBC's creation is responsible for the loss of a LOT of cool wrestling shows that were widely available on cable. Specific to AJW, all I really know about how it happened is that the credits made it very clear that Tempo's deal was with Fuji TV. They also had limited TV coverage circa the late '70s-very early '80s in the San Francisco Bay Area (per Dave Meltzer), Guam (per old newspaper coverage), and maybe Hawaii. There could very well have been more markets, though. I *think* the terribly dubbed English AJW home videos were separate from the American TV shows. There are two episodes of the Tempo show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTfyHxZCbU NJPW ended up on Eurosport via Howard Brody and Hiro Matsuda's World Superstars of Wrestling/Ring Warriors in the early to mid-'90s. Brody's book does a great job detailing the whole process, which was eventually supposed to involve more original production elements, a toy line, etc. Brody's book goes into a lot of detail about working out a deal with Leisure Concepts (the future 4Kids Entertainment) to work on licensing deals, syndication, fronting money, etc. en route to a wholly original show, and he's not bullshitting about that. There's a 1995 Media Week article that specifically mentions Ring Warriors as a spinoff of WMAC Masters: https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/A17483652/ITOF?u=nysl_me_bpl_cent&sid=bookmark-ITOF&xid=e752e01e There's an episode of Ring Warriors/WSW on DailyMotion, but it doesn't have the English commentary: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6g4s5t I feel like I'm forgetting some other shows, though? davidbix fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jan 28, 2022 |
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davidbix posted:IIRC, Ron insists he was eyeing a different deal from what the other promoters were aiming for at the time, which was ESPN, but yes: He changed the name of Southeastern Championship Wrestling to the less regional-sounding Continental Championship Wrestling, switched to arena tapings, brought in Gordon Solie as his lead announcer, and started sending the show outside of the territory to places like Atlanta and the Twin Cities. In addition, other promotions we know that tried unsuccessfully to get the ESPN deal that the AWA got were Mid-South (frontrunner until Sgt. Slaughter became an AWA regular) and a combined effort from Memphis and Ann Gunkel's relaunched All-South.There was a pilot taping for the latter at the Mid-South Coliseum on April 22, 1985, with some of the matches airing on the Memphis territory's B-show: Apparently being tired made my brain shortcircuit because I read Ann Gunkel as Art Garfunkel. Hello, Lou Thesz my old friend...
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davidbix posted:
4kids dubbing NJPW like it dubbed anime is both something scary to me but also something I 100% want to see now
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Has “Battle Royal” ever been pronounced as “Battle Royale” (long ‘A’ sound) in WWE/F? I’m just assuming it’s one of the longest-tenured items on Vince’s Bad Word List
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Minidust posted:Has “Battle Royal” ever been pronounced as “Battle Royale” (long ‘A’ sound) in WWE/F? I’m just assuming it’s one of the longest-tenured items on Vince’s Bad Word List Maybe in the 80s and when they'd do shows in England because Vince probably thought it was a funny British way to say it?
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SatoshiMiwa posted:4kids dubbing NJPW like it dubbed anime is both something scary to me but also something I 100% want to see now
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Minidust posted:Has “Battle Royal” ever been pronounced as “Battle Royale” (long ‘A’ sound) in WWE/F? I’m just assuming it’s one of the longest-tenured items on Vince’s Bad Word List Yes, 91's Battle Royal at the Albert Hall used that pronunciation. The video they release said it every 3.2 seconds.
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davidbix posted:Also I was reacquainting myself with Howard Brody's book and was reminded that the whole plan came crashing down because planned toy licensee Bandai freaked out when they realized there was a tenuous NJPW connection (they were licensing the footage from TV Asahi directly without any NJPW/Inoki involvement) and got cold feet because they felt that Inoki was too mobbed up to do business with. Even though Inoki had zero involvement. To clarify, no involvement in the deal, right? Not no involvement with the yakuza?
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BooDooBoo posted:Yes, 91's Battle Royal at the Albert Hall used that pronunciation. Because that was the only WWF battle royal I ever saw as a kid I have always pronounced it that way Gaz-L posted:To clarify, no involvement in the deal, right? Not no involvement with the yakuza? Yeah, don't worry, Inoki definitely had involvement with yakuza. Everyone in Japanese wrestling back then did.
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Are The Acclaimed the first openly gay/bi tag team in wrestling history? With both members identifying as LGBTQ?
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Are The Acclaimed the first openly gay/bi tag team in wrestling history? With both members identifying as LGBTQ? no not least because max caster (afaik) does not publicly identify as such
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jesus WEP posted:no not least because max caster (afaik) does not publicly identify as such Also Bussy would have beat them to it, if someone hasn't already done it before them. I have to imagine there's some team on the indies or somewhere who were both openly LGBTQ somewhere down the line.
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Diamante and Kiera Hogan have tagged before. Not just openly bi but actually dating.
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Has Roman reigns ever had like an emperor or a king gimmick so he's actually reigning over something? I understand that he is a dogman but dogs don't typically reign over things. Is the "head of the table " gimmick about his family or like the head of the table of wrestling, and if so how big is this table
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he stole a king of the ring crown from Xavier woods I think
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It's like if I.R.S had a "cat guy" gimmick and he never actually did anyone's taxes
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Sex Farm posted:Has Roman reigns ever had like an emperor or a king gimmick so he's actually reigning over something? I understand that he is a dogman but dogs don't typically reign over things. Is the "head of the table " gimmick about his family or like the head of the table of wrestling, and if so how big is this table He currently rules over the "Island of Relevancy"(TM) and head of the table is about his family, "The Bloodline"(R)
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jesus WEP posted:no not least because max caster (afaik) does not publicly identify as such I think Caster has mentioned being Bi at least once
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Gaz-L posted:To clarify, no involvement in the deal, right? Not no involvement with the yakuza?
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fez_machine posted:I think Caster has mentioned being Bi at least once
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jesus WEP posted:I’ll need a source on that tia hmm nope I can't find anything direct with a cursory search but there's a couple of things that hint at it: the "I'm horny for MJF" stuff on twitter, there's the hand stuff, and there's this rap against Jungle Boy with the phrase, "I wouldn't kiss you even though you're my fetish".
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Are The Acclaimed the first openly gay/bi tag team in wrestling history? With both members identifying as LGBTQ? the Golden Lovers were in love, so,
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Sex Farm posted:Has Roman reigns ever had like an emperor or a king gimmick so he's actually reigning over something? I understand that he is a dogman but dogs don't typically reign over things. Is the "head of the table " gimmick about his family or like the head of the table of wrestling, and if so how big is this table He's frequently described as The Tribal Chief.
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Trying posted:Why Wrestling? Because Wrestling.
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Trying posted:Why Wrestling? Its the only thing good on tv
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Trying posted:Why Wrestling? the unassailably high quality forums and social media presence of the fans
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Trying posted:Why Wrestling? I’ll do you one better: When Wrestling?
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fez_machine posted:hmm nope I can't find anything direct with a cursory search but there's a couple of things that hint at it: the "I'm horny for MJF" stuff on twitter, there's the hand stuff, and there's this rap against Jungle Boy with the phrase, "I wouldn't kiss you even though you're my fetish". There's also this A Matter of Pride video he did a while back, but as usual with Max I have no idea how much of this is genuine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARjATg_JghU
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IceAgeComing posted:There's actually more random Japanese wrestling that got on TV outside Japan than you'd think: Bix is probably the person that might be able to answer with specifics but I know AJW was on some US TV stations in the 80s since there are tapes going around with (terrible) English commentary on them; Eurosport had NJPW for periods in the 90s/2000s as well plus I think inherited these then-ancient UWFi tapes at some point. New Japan and some other stuff got shown on Eurosport here in Europeland in the late 80s, early 90s. It was what got me into wrestling, and why Liger is forever my favourite wrestler. e:f/beaten like Seth Rollins with a chair
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fez_machine posted:I think Caster has mentioned being Bi at least once A friend who saw him more on the indies than I did mentioned he used to come out with a pride flag but I forget which one. (Pan or bi.) As it stands it's very fun that his current character isn't defined in that regard and just goes in whatever direction he wants.
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I choose to believe Max Caster's sexuality is "whatever's going to get me in trouble with HR at this moment"
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Has anyone ever won a Royal Rumble, or Rumble-like big battle type event, by being the final entrant but the ring was empty/all other competitors were already eliminated by the time they were set to come out?
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