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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That is to say, part of what kept the switch booming is it being this generation's indie machine what percentage of total switch software sales comprises of indie titles? what percentage of gaming in general is indie titles? you're constructing a narrative that valve will, in one year, threaten Nintendo's portable console dominance, a field with basically no other competition. by being better at playing indie games. are you okay? can you justify any of this or are you just spitballing?
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Stux posted:genuinely what is missing here. Well, you forgot Cadence of Hyrule, which is borderline criminal.
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MarcusSA posted:You missed Mario Kart which is another big party game. i skipped anything that was a port or remaster
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Listen, the Deck can play porn games bought from steam and the switch can’t. I’m sure we can see the clear winner here.
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MarcusSA posted:Listen, the Deck can play porn games bought from steam and the switch can’t. this is just the Vita!!!!
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Stux posted:i skipped anything that was a port or remaster Oh yeah I guess it was. It’s still yet another Nintendo winner.
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Stux posted:are you high it has probably the best representation of their IPs + third party exclusives of any of their consoles ever lmao genuinely do not even understnadn what you are talking about Like two of these titles interest me. The sucrose very child oriented titles listed here do almost nothing for me. If people can have fun playing Yoshi's crafted world or Splatoon or animal crossing or Pokemon good on then but ugh. The steam deck for me isnt a switch killer for any reason other than that I can play titles that actually interest me.
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MarcusSA posted:Oh yeah I guess it was. no but you see it doesn't count because it was just a re-release. it sold a whopping 8 million units on the wii u as opposed to uh lemme just pull up the switch sales uh 40+ million copies wait this can't be right
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:no but you see it doesn't count because it was just a re-release. it sold a whopping 8 million units on the wii u as opposed to uh lemme just pull up the switch sales mario kart 8 (but the battle mode only)
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:what percentage of total switch software sales comprises of indie titles? This old post says 15% https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...forecast.96791/ I'll just assume that's still currently accurate and say if you lose 5% of gross revenue that's a pretty big bite when you're talking literal trillions of yen. And the problem is that a lot of that huge list of "Nintendo" games are contracted out so Nintendo is either paying up big money or sharing their revenue which is not particularly great. I own 3 switches I'm not a nintendo doomsayer I'm just saying... this could be a bite taken out of them unless they buy up a studio or two or come out swinging with whatever switch 2 is.
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Kwolok posted:Like two of these titles interest me. The sucrose very child oriented titles listed here do almost nothing for me. If people can have fun playing Yoshi's crafted world or Splatoon or animal crossing or Pokemon good on then but ugh. The steam deck for me isnt a switch killer for any reason other than that I can play titles that actually interest me. did u read the thing i was responding to saying that there were literally no games, or the part where i said "its fine not to care about the games". this i snt an argument that this is objectively better than what the steam dekc would offer, its pointing out someone said something insanely stupid. read. comprehend. POst.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:
I was gonna google it but god drat that’s an insane number. Has a single game on Steam sold that many copies? I’m sure there has to be one.
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MarcusSA posted:Listen, the Deck can play porn games bought from steam and the switch can’t. The Switch can play porn games bought from Nintendo, though. Like https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/hentai-vs-evil-switch/
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MarcusSA posted:I was gonna google it but god drat that’s an insane number. PUBG, maybe. it's hard to extrapolate because a huge amount of the playerbase is probably mobile. idk how reliable Steam sales figures are.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:And the problem is that a lot of that huge list of "Nintendo" games are contracted out so Nintendo is either paying up big money or sharing their revenue which is not particularly great. Video game publishing, definitely the industry where companies don't make insane amounts of money
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The Deck is a niche product. It’s one that I hope takes off like a rocket but I’m not holding my breath. Also let’s be real like 90% of us sweaty nerds buying a deck would absolutely go buy a switch pro if it also got announced.
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Stux posted:did u read the thing i was responding to saying that there were literally no games, or the part where i said "its fine not to care about the games". this i snt an argument that this is objectively better than what the steam dekc would offer, its pointing out someone said something insanely stupid. read. comprehend. POst. I'm not responding to you responding to someone else. I'm not taking a side, not everything is about taking a side. I'm just saying the steam deck offers something for me the switch doesn't, largely a massive array of titles, which makes the Nintendo offering look small, and look especially small when Nintendo titles tend to be very targeted towards a younger audience. read. comprehend. POst. Kwolok fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jan 30, 2022 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:And the problem is that a lot of that huge list of "Nintendo" games are contracted out so Nintendo is either paying up big money or sharing their revenue which is not particularly great. I see. Unlike Microsoft, or Sony, or Valve, right? This is a unique situation for Nintendo, I'm sure. Game publishing is a rare and arcane art, hard to imagine it ever being profitable.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I see. Unlike Microsoft, or Sony, or Valve, right? This is a unique situation for Nintendo, I'm sure. Game publishing is a rare and arcane art, hard to imagine it ever being profitable. Nintendo does not have the same coffers as Microsoft or Sony and the fact that both have been gobbling up studios kinda goes to show that yeah, they want the whole bite too.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Nintendo does not have the same coffers as Microsoft or Sony and the fact that both have been gobbling up studios kinda goes to show that yeah, they want the whole bite too. Video game publishing is not a loss leader! It's extremely profitable!
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:And the problem is that a lot of that huge list of "Nintendo" games are contracted out so Nintendo is either paying up big money or sharing their revenue which is not particularly great. quick, if you move faster you can gfet the goalposts further away. now any further comment on your insane initial statement and how it was completely wrong? quote:I own 3 switches I'm not a nintendo doomsayer I'm just saying... this could be a bite taken out of them unless they buy up a studio or two or come out swinging with whatever switch 2 is.  dont think theyll be worried actually lol
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My kids will be devastated when I explain to them that Nintendo is clearly dying.
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MarcusSA posted:I was gonna google it but god drat that’s an insane number. i think if you combine them, the first gen Pokemon games sold something idiotic like 100MM my favorite is Nintendogs selling like 25 million copies
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Feels Villeneuve posted:poor Astral Chain Astral Chain still sold over a million copies
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nintendo is doomed and the billions of dollars they bring in is only prolonging how long they're doomed for
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they only sold 17 million switch units in the first year, i'm sure valve will be able to compete with that.
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I love Steam but it’s really not even in the same ballpark as Nintendo. quote:
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well PUBG is probably the best selling game of all time though a huge majority of that is *probably* mobile players and gets into weird areas about what constitutes a game sale
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MarcusSA posted:I love Steam but it’s really not even in the same ballpark as Nintendo. I think this says more about how insane the sales on Switch are rathar than Steam being small. Those Mario Kart numbers are something else.
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Steam doesn't try and make its money any more from games. Its distribution platform is its money maker and because of that they do passion projects for games pretty much only now. They talk about it often how they will often have tons of irons in the fire at any given time just led by whoever at the company thinks its a good idea, and a lot of them get scrapped because they kinda suck. But you also get amazing things like the steam deck and half life alyx from time to time. Comparing the two is not apples to apples. Not sure why anyone thinks Nintendo is in trouble. THe market share the steam deck will take up will not in any way displace nintendo significantly. The two are not competing in the same arena. Largely because of exclusives (which are generally lovely IMO)
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:This old post says 15% lmfao i didnt click this link until now  
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wait i'm dumb there's also Minecraft i remember thinking when Microsoft bought Minecraft that it was a stupid move and that they had bought a peaked fad, and that's why i don't make important decisions
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I know it's tempting and easy to forget the Wii U ever existed but that was only 10 years ago and was so dire they had to drown it in a bathtub just 5 years after release Every Nintendo console has had a 5 year life cycle, they didn't drown it in a bathtub. They supported it with great software for all 5 years, it just didn't sell that well.
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i think a consistent thing about gamers is that they underestimate the size of the normie population which is why you hear poo poo like "does anyone still actually buy COD or Madden" or get exactly how big of a license to print money Pokémon is and how little hardcore fans complaining actually matters regarding it being a license to print money
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If valve sells 1 million of these I’m quite sure they will call it a huge success for them and it probably will be. In the first year or so.
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MarcusSA posted:If valve sells 1 million of these I’m quite sure they will call it a huge success for them and it probably will be. I'd be shocked if they sold less (unless they intentionally don't make that many)
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Every Nintendo console has had a 5 year life cycle, they didn't drown it in a bathtub. They supported it with great software for all 5 years, it just didn't sell that well. The Virtual Boy would like to have a word with you. So, how about that Steam Deck boys? Forgot I waltzed into the Switch thread.
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