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HackensackBackpack posted:Satellite images of the protest. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/see-satellite-imagery-of-the-freedom-rally-protest-in-ottawa-1.5760510
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gently caress fascism! 
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Jan 31, 2022 01:41
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Testikles posted:Over/under on everybody getting bored Monday night and leaving? I assumed the protest was just for the weekend. Not gonna lie hope they run out of gas or some poo poo and get their dumb poo poo trucks stranded.
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Jan 31, 2022 02:01
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Their stated intent is to blockade Ottawa until Trudeau gives into their demands. Some of them might go back for the weekend but if they were true believers they are staying.
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Jan 31, 2022 02:03
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Unconfirmed but they may have killed someone https://mobile.twitter.com/seganwad/status/1487843400648998914 Oxyclean posted:I assumed the protest was just for the weekend. This actually happened with United We Roll because the campaign organisers (many of whom are also handling the donations here) ran off with the money. Sadly the money going to these idiots is the better outcome because the campaign would use it to push fascism politically.
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Jan 31, 2022 02:19
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Lol this is pretty funny though: https://mobile.twitter.com/MattGrierMusic/status/1487873826301956097
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Jan 31, 2022 02:47
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https://twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1487947793696235522?s=20&t=Z2SVAXhnTda_86PrhGwbcw bet a lot of people wish police would avoid instigation confrontations when it comes to traffic stops. It sure is frustrating that we get de-escalation and confrontation avoidance when it's a bunch of angry white dudes, but not when it's basically anything else.
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Jan 31, 2022 03:14
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Mokinokaro posted:Unconfirmed but they may have killed someone CBC reporter said it they checked with people who should be in the know and none of them had heard a word of it https://mobile.twitter.com/shaaminiwhy/status/1487843239709261828
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Jan 31, 2022 03:23
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flakeloaf posted:CBC reporter said it they checked with people who should be in the know and none of them had heard a word of it Yeah I'm totally ok with calling this a pot-stirring fabrication until there's some kind of official word on it. I'm immediately skeptical of anything that starts with "from a friend of mine".
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Jan 31, 2022 03:35
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thunderspanks posted:Yeah I'm totally ok with calling this a pot-stirring fabrication until there's some kind of official word on it. I'm immediately skeptical of anything that starts with "from a friend of mine".
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Vintersorg posted:Drive thrus are open tho
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Jan 31, 2022 03:55
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There’s a big Alberta clipper coming thru tomorrow evening so they can have fun going home thru that.
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thunderspanks posted:Yeah I'm totally ok with calling this a pot-stirring fabrication until there's some kind of official word on it. I'm immediately skeptical of anything that starts with "from a friend of mine". Also if it was true, then the person tweeting could have gotten their paramedic friend fired and/or sued for breach of confidentiality.
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Oxyclean posted:https://twitter.com/OttawaPolice/status/1487947793696235522?s=20&t=Z2SVAXhnTda_86PrhGwbcw In 2020, the cops arrested 13 people who had set up a tent at a downtown intersection as a climate protest. They went in in the middle of the night, tore down the tent and charged everyone except a minor who was there with mischief. Said it was because of "major traffic disruptions" and "concerns for public safety." Meanwhile, there are dozens of streets blocked off and practically inaccessible for going on three days now. There are apparently "several criminal investigations" now related to this thing. There's the constant horn honking for upwards of 18 to 20 hours straight each day, big crowds of people just flouting not even Covid rules, but basic city laws, and the cops are like, "Well, we don't want to anger these folks, you know." They said this is costing them $800,000 a day. For what? They've arrested ONE person. God, and I bet they'll use these protest costs as justification for an increased budget ask next year too.
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HackensackBackpack posted:
I’m assuming a lot of vacation pay so their officers can attend as civilians and OT to cover the shifts.
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Jan 31, 2022 04:54
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Clear two square kilometres of roadway and provoke a fight with ten thousand people, without turning them into pariahs and getting a lot of people on both sides hurt and turning the area into giant icy flaming mess? Nah. Take pictures, run plates, get names, find out where they live and send local cops out to get them, only to find out they won't do that because they are themselves chuds, and in the meantime, everyone who lives nearby that can't pass for alt-right gets to hide inside and hope the mob doesn't see them :aces: HackensackBackpack posted:They said this is costing them $800,000 a day. For what? They've arrested ONE person. Basically all of the OPS budget is payroll, and they're wildly undermanned for a city this size. Paid duty's fuckin expensive.
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Jan 31, 2022 04:58
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Going to the world cup Eat poo poo america Edit: My favourite thing about the Canadian team is the keeper is basically Your Dad In Sweatpants
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Jan 31, 2022 05:03
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flakeloaf posted:Clear two square kilometres of roadway and provoke a fight with ten thousand people, without turning them into pariahs and getting a lot of people on both sides hurt and turning the area into giant icy flaming mess? You're right and sorry if I came off a bit hot there. It's been a stressful weekend and I am in favour of police de-escalating and not resorting to cracking skulls with plated gloves. I just have to wonder if these people just get the run of downtown for as long as they want. I don't want to see a giant fight. I don't want to see cops beating people up or anything like that. But this is barely a coherent protest at this point, it's just noise.
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Jan 31, 2022 05:36
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Squads of non-Toronto police cleared all of Queen's Park followed by a huge chunk of downtown at G20, but it's a bit different when your protest tourists have a bunch of semi trailers and right-wing politics.
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Jan 31, 2022 05:41
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Oh no your question was absolutely valid, and it's extremely frustrating to get so quickly to the correct conclusion when you see cops stomping down poor, Indigenous and Black protesters for having the temerity to demand dignity, but keeping their distance and making custom infographics when the scrotes happen to be white, small-c-conservative voters who've been actively making everyone's lives loving miserable in open defiance of dozens of public order laws. I am unshakably opposed to the use of firefighting equipment in support of police violence, but you can't deny that a few thousand GPM of water into the crowd would calm those boneheads down right quick
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Jan 31, 2022 05:41
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HackensackBackpack posted:You're right and sorry if I came off a bit hot there. It's been a stressful weekend and I am in favour of police de-escalating and not resorting to cracking skulls with plated gloves. I just have to wonder if these people just get the run of downtown for as long as they want. I don't want to see a giant fight. I don't want to see cops beating people up or anything like that. But this is barely a coherent protest at this point, it's just noise. For the same reason that the COVID mandates are going to end regardless of whatever this dumb convoy did or does, downtown will be cleared because it’s interrupting capital. It’s Ottawa though, so it may not be that quick, there’s only so much capital.
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Jan 31, 2022 05:42
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No one has worked in downtown Ottawa for almost two years. This could go on for a while.flakeloaf posted:I am unshakably opposed to the use of firefighting equipment in support of police violence, but you can't deny that a few thousand GPM of water into the crowd would calm those boneheads down right quick
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Shumagorath posted:That's still much better than the converse: bringing in some teslas and telling them the convoy is a fire truck.
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Shumagorath posted:That's still much better than the converse: bringing in some rural RCMP and telling them the convoy is a fire station. Holy poo poo
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I live a couple blocks down from Shepherds and yeah it's been a real shitfest on King Edward. We've mostly just been staying in but we went to Dow's Lake yesterday for some canal skating and it's just very frustrating. Politicians and law will jump on cracking down on indigenous protesters or climate protesters that cause any inconvenience but oh, we don't want to upset anyone when they're blockading 2/3rds of the lanes on major roads, parking wherever they want, blasting train horns throughout the night, etc. Like suddenly now they're very concerned about provoking a riot. Anyway, the main problem here is that these absolute dumbfucks don't even know why they're here and are just getting hardcore grifted by the organizers. Almost nothing they're asking for has anything to even do with the federal government or Trudeau. They convoyed with absolutely no plan in place and they continue to have no plan. These people showed up and had no idea where they were going to park or sleep, how they would get food or gas, or survive the nights at negative 20s and below. The limit of their thinking was "show up and block stuff, honk horns, gently caress trudeau". I don't think the vast majority of them even care about the supposed demands or anything. They just hate Trudeau and wanted to be part of an in-group party to go somewhere and make a lot of noise and wave signs around. Almost no one involved is seriously dedicated to any kind of cause or goal. Basically, this ain't no march from Selma to Montgomery.
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Fidelitious posted:Basically, this ain't no march from Selma to Montgomery. A couple of years ago, some Q Anon guy came to town with a couple hundred people and marched from the Hill to the U.S. Embassy (which was closed because it was Canada Day) to deliver a document demanding Trump arrest Trudeau for child trafficking under the CUSMA trade agreement because  It was insane and pointless (he also went to the Mexican embassy with the same document and asked the woman at the counter to deliver it to "President Maduro") but it was at least a semblance of a plan.
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HackensackBackpack posted:You're right and sorry if I came off a bit hot there. It's been a stressful weekend and I am in favour of police de-escalating and not resorting to cracking skulls with plated gloves. I just have to wonder if these people just get the run of downtown for as long as they want. I don't want to see a giant fight. I don't want to see cops beating people up or anything like that. But this is barely a coherent protest at this point, it's just noise. Epilogue: https://twitter.com/coachbull8/status/1488178195165757440 e: 
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Jan 31, 2022 17:20
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CTV reporting the death in ambulance story is false. https://twitter.com/ColtonPraill/status/1488185015750074374
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I went undercover to the Vancouver one in my useful idiot fascist disguise (I'm sorry you had to become this, red team Canada hat, I loved you)... And holy poo poo, these people are dumb as gently caress. It's just repeating the same dumb slogans over and over. And weirdly... 99% all white people. Guess the nazi flags kind of turned off the ethnics. I was unable to snag one of the nazi or snek ones to burn them, but I did get a bunch of Canada ones. My flags now you dumb motherfuckers. One on an actually decent hockey stick. Which is also mine now. You gonna leave your car and chase me? Didn't think so.
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The protestors don't seem to have a clear ask. They're behaving obnoxiously. And yet, I find myself taking their side (apparently) on the point of their protests being non-violent. Which is apparently a controversy that needed to be reported. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/calling-ottawa-protests-peaceful-downplays-non-violent-dangers-critics-say-1.5760990 quote:"By what common understanding of the term does what we are seeing on the ground, on TV, in our social media feeds qualify as 'peaceful protest?"' he wrote. "Is it merely the absence of physical violence and injury? That's not unimportant but is insufficient as a definitional threshold." They haven't beaten anyone up. Or apparently threatened anyone. Claiming that their protests have not been peaceful, or even have been violent, seems like a trap wherein all protests will be considered violent and not peaceful.
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Maneck posted:
Except for all the people they've threatened e: and the people they've assaulted flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Jan 31, 2022 18:11
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Hadn't heard about threats of violence. That is not okay.
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That's ok it's about time someone other than the media, official federal opposition party, provincial premiers, and the local police stood up for these oppressed white protestors.
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Lol I loving had to peace out when enough people figured out who I was, even after a costume change mid way, and they started getting a group together. You never go beyond 1 on 1. It's fascists and useful idiots. Violence is their language. The Butcher fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Jan 31, 2022 18:25
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Openly waving the Nazi flag should be a threat of violence, because it is. It’s threatening Jews, homosexuals, and any other non-Aryan with extermination.
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HackensackBackpack posted:CTV reporting the death in ambulance story is false. The irony is that that story did the same thing that posts about 50,000 trucks on the other side did. People are so hyped up they are just hitting share.
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Maneck posted:The protestors don't seem to have a clear ask. They're behaving obnoxiously. And yet, I find myself taking their side (apparently) on the point of their protests being non-violent. Which is apparently a controversy that needed to be reported. What the gently caress is the post, source your quotes
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Oh, lmao, so much for just being a good excuse to get out of town. https://twitter.com/ctvottawa/status/1488164883917123592?s=21
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ChickenDoodle posted:Openly waving the Nazi flag should be a threat of violence, because it is. It’s threatening Jews, homosexuals, and any other non-Aryan with extermination. Yeah I feel any use of that flag outside of a museum or film context should violate our Hate Speech laws. Also if I ever see one I am taking it and burning it at first opportunity.
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