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gradenko_2000 posted:It used to be that if you were friends with "someone you disagree with politically", there was a good chance that it didn't really have a practical effect on your life. Someone might support the concentration camps on the border, either as a Democrat or Republican, and it didn't matter to you, because, well, you're not an immigrant caught up in America's dragnet. I'm getting really pissed at my parents for gaslighting when every time I talk to them they say they're being safe, etc - but then they go to hockey games. "Oh we're wearing a mask!" ok but you're eating there with 20,000 other people right? Like, watch the games on TV.
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Also that other poster almost coming to blows over masking behavior... if you want to get into a fight over it, ask yourself this: What's the entire point of wearing a mask? Obstinately, it's to avoid physical harm So that being the case how the gently caress are you avoiding physical harm by getting into altercations with strangers?
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I agree; Joe Biden should spend significant amounts of time in places without mask mandates
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gently caress, most people are loving idiots in my life and my circle of friends/family I trust more than being a pen pal is only on one hand. very lonely, I think my partner has it worse. a lot of people she cares about have been mean to her about trying to protect herself. so very stupid
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lmao thread went full circle again. Time to repost Alberto : In this respect our townfolk were like everybody else, wrapped up in themselves; in other words they were humanists: they disbelieved in pestilences. A pestilence isn't a thing made to man's measure; therefore we tell ourselves that pestilence is a mere bogy of the mind, a bad dream that will pass away. But it doesn't always pass away and, from one bad dream to another, it is men who pass away, and the humanists first of all, because they haven't taken their precautions. Our townsfolk were not to blame more than others; they forgot to be modest, that was all, and thought that everything still was possible for them; which presupposed that pestilences were impossible. They went on doing business, arranged for journeys, and formed views. How should they have given a thought to anything like plague, which rules out any future, cancels journeys, silences the exchange of views. They fancied themselves free, and no one will ever be free so long as there are pestilences.
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MLK Ultra posted:thanks for coming to my peastalk. gently caress, my childhood was fueled by cans of peas in a similar way. im out now, have been for a long time and i cook for myself but jfc
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Joementum posted:covid is Finnish-ed #girlboss
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Cup Runneth Over posted:It's too bad a philosophy degree is largely wasted money these days because people like you would probably have a considerable improvement in your quality of life if you pursued one. Though in my experience it can also just turn you from depressed all the time to angry all the time. it might be wasted money from a capitalist hell-perspective but it's for sure not a waste of time. philosophy is easy to learn for free, lots of big universities put their philosophy lectures online
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Thread, help me improve my office There are three people sitting in this lil call center. Floor area about 262 sq ft. Volume ~2100 ft^3.  1) Will MERV 13 filters stop covid? 2) What's a good, relatively quiet box fan for this room? 3) Would it help at all to open the door to the interior hallway, which has unmasked people walking around every few minutes? (I've requested a HEPA but I'm not optimistic. The health department is not allowed to cite "covid" as a reason for ordering things)  There is this big, beautiful door to the outside I am forbidden to open because that would be a safety hazard. platzapS fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Joementum posted:"a couple of days after the country entered its third year of dealing with the pandemic" I read this as "Finland has been dealing with the pandemic, but other countries haven't been dealing with it for that long and just gave up, so only Finland gets to say it's entered its third year of doing so"
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Joementum posted:covid is Finnish-ed It’s so awesome we’ve given up after even barely trying because there’s profit to be made and our corporate overlords hope is there will be just enough people who won’t end up dead or permanently disabled from covid to keep profits flowing, it owns
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now that every country is just giving up I do wonder what, if anything, any of them will do once it becomes obvious that doesn't work like it can't work
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BONGHITZ posted:yesss, thats the one! I found it really easily because I remembered that someone said it looked like "Snorks cosplay" which is a really easy phrase to pin down via thread search. 
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Joementum posted:covid is Finnish-ed theyll be suorry
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platzapS posted:(I've requested a HEPA but I'm not optimistic. The health department is not allowed to cite "covid" as a reason for ordering things)
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After speaking with the CEO of Delta airlines and other prominent business heads I am proud to announce we will be creating a new Federal holiday called COVID-Mass. Each year we will encourage cities and states to host mass gatherings in which everyone should gather and contract as much COVID as possible. Those who survive will only make the United States stronger by weeding out the weak who would not have generated much profit anyway. Thank you and god bless America! -Joe Biden, 2022
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:now that every country is just giving up I do wonder what, if anything, any of them will do once it becomes obvious that doesn't work Ratchet down into lower state capacity with a "this is the new normal" language. And then just accept that life expectancy fell by several years, which I'm sure some people think is great because the percentage of the population legally entitled to retirement/pension goes down considerably.
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Tulip posted:Ratchet down into lower state capacity with a "this is the new normal" language. And then just accept that life expectancy fell by several years, which I'm sure some people think is great because the percentage of the population legally entitled to retirement/pension goes down considerably. how does that work without entire industries collapsing though Like I can see how they can bulldoze through short-term but eventually you run out of people to feed to the grinder
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gradenko_2000 posted:It used to be that if you were friends with "someone you disagree with politically", there was a good chance that it didn't really have a practical effect on your life. Someone might support the concentration camps on the border, either as a Democrat or Republican, and it didn't matter to you, because, well, you're not an immigrant caught up in America's dragnet Take the opposite view post-Omicron, in that people who think "COVID isn't real" aren't the problem. If everyone was vaccinated and took COVID as seriously as possible it'd still likely be spreading like wildfire because that's what an airborne immune evading virus does, albeit probably slower. Anti-vaxxers might have been a problem before, but they aren't the main drivers of transmission anymore. In the current situation even people who are doing everything right, are fully vaccinated + boosted etc, have a non-negligible chance of transmitting the virus to you. It gets passed around because people participate in society, go to work, send their kids to schools, live in apartment buildings (hi), have to go to the hospitals etc. Some people go to restaurants, which is stupid, but the problem is the restaurants are open. Political orientation only matters marginally. The current post-Omicron crisis is 100% a failure of political leadership, hands down. It's due to not shutting down non-essential international travel, shuttering bars+restaurants+other non-essential economic activity, not demanding schools go remote and cancelling large events, not pushing N95s or better until way too late, for undermining effective workplace regulations and not facilitating the massive ventilation infrastructure upgrades required to make necessary shared spaces safe. Blaming individuals even a bit inadvertently gives a pass to this failed political leadership. It's falling for the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" lie, which shifts the blame from the failed state to recalcitrant individuals. It's just more obvious now that vaccine efficacy has declined to the point that they're not reliably preventing transmission or infection. My family's infections weren't caused be some anti-masker, they were caused by the Biden admin, the Hochul admin and goddamn de Blasio in roughly that order of personal culpability. Of course we personally should have driven out of NYC by mid-Dec at the latest but won't get into self-recriminations here. You might argue the widespread sentiment that "COVID isn't real or serious" is what's constraining political leadership from taking necessary action. I'd disagree, capital is calling the shots right now and dictating the virus can spread as long as the rate of return isn't threatened. The public is adapting views that allow them to function in this situation, with the help of massive consent manufacturing. Agree with your point that with COVID the personal stakes have become very real and personal interactions require extreme care. Before you could work beside someone with terrible views and not really get impacted but now it's risky. But it's risky even if you politically align, the politics don't matter when the virus is everywhere.
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https://twitter.com/denise_dewald/status/1488132244300603399 the letter to Zients can be found in full here: https://welch.house.gov/sites/welch.house.gov/files/WH Nurse Staffing.pdf It really is some Statute of Laborers poo poo, with the thin veneer of targeting "staffing agencies" instead of the nurses themselves.
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I don't have the energy for this. This fatigue is something else. gently caress. 1290 Hospitals are reporting they expect staffing shortages next week, so its not "over" Total Beds" 763,159" Beds Used: 587,752 COVID: 134,108 (lowest since 1/8) Adult Admissions Yesterday: 19,682 (lowest since 12/29) Pediatric Admissions: 1,374 (lowest since 1/4) ICU Occupancy: 65,067 COVID ICU: 23,345
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I’m late to food chat but it’s throwing me off seeing all these very strong opinions when based on most of the posting in C-SPAM you all seem to subsist on cigarettes or vapes and chicken nuggets with occasional forays to Taco Bell.
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gradenko_2000 posted:It used to be that if you were friends with "someone you disagree with politically", there was a good chance that it didn't really have a practical effect on your life. Someone might support the concentration camps on the border, either as a Democrat or Republican, and it didn't matter to you, because, well, you're not an immigrant caught up in America's dragnet. That quote from Sartre about anti-Semites is also super apropos, previously these "political" discussions were only frivolous amusements for them because the problems they're addressing were never part of their life in any real way so engaging in the debate is pretty much just an interesting mental exercise for them quote:“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” These days the part about "If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent" usually involves tone policing or some other form of invoking decorum. E: the other issue is, as you pointed out, the privileged classes now have to face consequences which they can easily live with if they grit their teeth and bear it but it's a constant reminder that Something Is Wrong and beyond their control and they simply can't live like that. Of course minorities have always had to live with that kind of poo poo constantly hanging over their heads (bigotry, voting rights, marriage rights, medical access, educational access, etc etc), society has always been more than happy to load burdens like that onto certain portions of the population if it meant that other classes got to live in the sun Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Thoguh posted:I’m late to food chat but it’s throwing me off seeing all these very strong opinions when based on most of the posting in C-SPAM you all seem to subsist on cigarettes or vapes and chicken nuggets with occasional forays to Taco Bell. I eat a lot of bibimbap and I encourage goons to make it at home themselves, too gochujang makes even the blandest vegetable a delight and an egg on top mmmm it's mostly just cutting stuff and sauteing and it looks beautiful if you take the time to arrange it impress your friends and loved ones
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Thoguh posted:I’m late to food chat but it’s throwing me off seeing all these very strong opinions when based on most of the posting in C-SPAM you all seem to subsist on cigarettes or vapes and chicken nuggets with occasional forays to Taco Bell. i sometimes make a high-viscosity breakfast by dissolving protein powder into oatmeal then i scream internally and post externally
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Joementum posted:the plague egg is mad Quoting this for later but it seems like the main difference between "normal" and "not normal" is that The Help telling Matty "no" is Not Normal
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Nocturtle posted:Take the opposite view post-Omicron, in that people who think "COVID isn't real" aren't the problem. If everyone was vaccinated and took COVID as seriously as possible it'd still likely be spreading like wildfire because that's what an airborne immune evading virus does, albeit probably slower. Anti-vaxxers might have been a problem before, but they aren't the main drivers of transmission anymore. In the current situation even people who are doing everything right, are fully vaccinated + boosted etc, have a non-negligible chance of transmitting the virus to you. It gets passed around because people participate in society, go to work, send their kids to schools, live in apartment buildings (hi), have to go to the hospitals etc. Some people go to restaurants, which is stupid, but the problem is the restaurants are open. Political orientation only matters marginally. 
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Another week of less pay because my clients are quarantined with Covid.
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Joementum posted:covid is Finnish-ed one little trick to not get in trouble for staying out all night clubbing
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Nocturtle posted:You might argue the widespread sentiment that "COVID isn't real or serious" is what's constraining political leadership from taking necessary action. I'd disagree, capital is calling the shots right now and dictating the virus can spread as long as the rate of return isn't threatened. The public is adapting views that allow them to function in this situation, with the help of massive consent manufacturing. And oddly enough the rich have become obscenely more rich during the pandemic while everyone else suffers. Lucky!
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Joementum posted:the plague egg is mad Good grief, what a piece of poo poo. Smash that Humpty Dumpty looking gently caress. It was always a poo poo thing going to work sick and infecting your co-workers regardless, before COVID. Same with sending your kids to school sick or giving them Tylenol in the morning thinking teachers wouldn’t notice by afternoon. https://mobile.twitter.com/KathrynDill/status/1488145130670497794?cxt=HHwWhIC9_ZOH-qYpAAAA Gee wonder why teachers are fleeing and what will happen. No one wants to be forced to work in plaguelands, conservatives are completely loving over the education system to protect their racist, bigoted ideology, parents treat teachers like garbage, and poo poo pay.
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E gochujang is really good, with some peanut butter and soy sauce to can make some great tofuGood Soldier Svejk posted:how does that work without entire industries collapsing though You'd be surprised by how deep the bench can go. An Shi Rebellion marks basically the halfway point for the Tang and was a far more radical population loss than what we're looking at so far. Most states survived Black Death largely intact though with a 50 year period of insane poo poo like laws that capped the price of labor. The Roman Emperor who saw 20% of his capital die of plague still got to be known as "the Great." Reduced state capacity is a bland term for a very very lovely experience (like the collapse of the Western Roman Empire is a canonical example) but it generally only cascades slowly. We're still very far from a "smallpox entering the Americas" type event, which is the sort of plague that truly obliterates governments.
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Cool, my nephews are sick and may have Covid for the second time. But I'm sure they won't have any long term complications and things will be mild
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Tulip posted:E gochujang is really good, with some peanut butter and soy sauce to can make some great tofu I suppose historically true but at the same time we are a much more intimately integrated spider-web of dependencies than we have ever been, globally. Maybe if it was just America culling its service industry people could ignore it but the supply chain and chip shortages and all that aren't going to get less hosed over time and we're not set up to be an entirely self-sufficient country, it's not feasible We're looking at wild inflation at best on top of service industry collapse
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