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Fuschia tude posted:Like what? Primarily there are people who have allergic reactions to components shared across multiple vaccines (though that's rare with both traditional and mRNA out there). Some people who had SAEs the first time they tried to get vaccinated are just told not to do it even though the specific issue isn't known. I shouldn't have said something that implied this was a large population; what I was getting at is they shouldn't be casually dismissed in rhetoric of blame about nonvaccination.
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Rust Martialis posted:Denmark - 30 January 2022 because of the storm.
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VitalSigns posted:My grandmother has a history of Epstein-Barr and can't get the covid vaccine because of it. It seems like Epstein-Barr causes worse outcomes in people who catch COVID, which you would think would make the vaccine more indicated. Discendo Vox posted:Primarily there are people who have allergic reactions to components shared across multiple vaccines (though that's rare with both traditional and mRNA out there). Some people who had SAEs the first time they tried to get vaccinated are just told not to do it even though the specific issue isn't known. My understanding was that because mRNA and traditional vaccines work by different transfer media, people allergic to one can still get the other. I have to assume the chance someone is allergic to both types is geometrically less likely.
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Discendo Vox posted:I shouldn't have said something that implied this was a large population; what I was getting at is they shouldn't be casually dismissed in rhetoric of blame about nonvaccination.
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Jan 30, 2022 23:25
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VitalSigns posted:My grandmother has a history of Good news: a history of GBS (heh) is NOT a contraindication (anymore) for receiving a covid vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html#Appendix-B
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Jan 30, 2022 23:42
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spankmeister posted:Good news: a history of GBS (heh) is NOT a contraindication (anymore) for receiving a covid vaccine. Ah yeah, I noticed that too. I assumed VS meant literally what they said, but maybe it indeed was the recommendation at the time.
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Fuschia tude posted:My understanding was that because mRNA and traditional vaccines work by different transfer media, people allergic to one can still get the other. I have to assume the chance someone is allergic to both types is geometrically less likely. I can't find it anymore but there was an article by a doctor saying that there would probably be fewer than a hundred people in the entirety of Australia who medically can't get vaccinated, given the breadth of vaccines that have been approved.
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Jan 30, 2022 23:58
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To be fair, there's a larger subset of people, who can get vaccinated, but get virtually no advantage from it. You're immune system isn't building a strong defense, if you're actively in chemotherapy. But these numbers are still insignificant compared to the people who could, but actively chose not to vaccinate.
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Jan 31, 2022 00:08
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Fuschia tude posted:Like what? Children under the age of 5.
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Jan 31, 2022 00:25
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Unvaccinated children under the age of 5 already have a death rate underneath the bottom line on that chart though (and an unvaccinated adult has a death rate higher than indicated since it's being pulled down by the kids). There's ~750 US 0-18 year old deaths total for the pandemic. Low death rate is largely why 0-5 years are still ineligible, the risk:benefit is very different from an 80 year old
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Jan 31, 2022 01:29
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spankmeister posted:Good news: a history of GBS (heh) is NOT a contraindication (anymore) for receiving a covid vaccine. Oh awesome well hopefully that means my grandmother will be able to get it after all, thanks!
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NoDamage posted:I don't know if it makes sense anymore to continue to looking at death rates the same way considering that the vaccines have created two very disparate risk pools. It doesn't really matter what relative death/hospitalization/morbidity rates are if the absolute rates are still unacceptably high. And that's even before we get into healthcare resource overruns. It's the same problem with the argument that kids are "protected" because their death rates are lower than sick old people (on average). It doesn't matter what's happening in other groups when we talk about pediatric infections themselves, except insofar as pediatric transmissions put immediate family and people like school staff at increased risk.
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Stickman posted:It doesn't really matter what relative death/hospitalization/morbidity rates are if the absolute rates are still unacceptably high. And that's even before we get into healthcare resource overruns. But the implication of the chart is that the general population rate could be at the lower level if everyone got vaccinated with three shots. It's important context when someone is suggesting policy actions. If you say the government should make everyone stay home and your argument for why doesn't address the possibility of making everyone get vaccinated, it's not very convincing. Vaccines existing doesn't mean all other public health interventions are automatically wrong, but in this thread it seems like "public health" always means coercive things and "why not coerce people to get vaccinated" is a very relevant question there.
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freebooter posted:I can't find it anymore but there was an article by a doctor saying that there would probably be fewer than a hundred people in the entirety of Australia who medically can't get vaccinated, given the breadth of vaccines that have been approved. Unfortunately, we don't really have a "breadth" here in the States.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Unfortunately, we don't really have a "breadth" here in the States. Sure we do. Moderna, AZ, Pfizer, J&J.
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Fuschia tude posted:My understanding was that because mRNA and traditional vaccines work by different transfer media, people allergic to one can still get the other. I have to assume the chance someone is allergic to both types is geometrically less likely. It's definitely much less likely, but it's possible there's nonindependent likelihood of allergy to both sets of transfer media; I genuinely don't know.
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James Garfield posted:But the implication of the chart is that the general population rate could be at the lower level if everyone got vaccinated with three shots. It's important context when someone is suggesting policy actions. If you say the government should make everyone stay home and your argument for why doesn't address the possibility of making everyone get vaccinated, it's not very convincing. I’m certainly not going to disagree that vaccines should be mandatory - I’ve been a proponent of vaccine mandates since well before COVID. My comment was meant to address what I read into ND’s comment, which I felt was meant to imply that we should ditch public control measures because the vaccinated are protected and the unvaccinated “made their choice”. My point is that the vaccinated are still impacted the reality of the unvaccinated both through healthcare resource over-utilization and through widespread transmissions (which also can’t be be controlled by vaccination alone at this point). The relative risks shown on the graph don’t say anything about whether the lower risk is acceptably low. It’s possible I misread the intended implications of the original post, though! Another thing to keep in mind about this graph is that it is age-adjusted. That puts it closer to showing individual-level relative risk, but because older people are far more likely to be vaccinated the actual death burden in the vaccinated is higher than the adjusted numbers suggest (plus we’re very likely undercounted breakthrough deaths). Stickman fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Stickman posted:It doesn't really matter what relative death/hospitalization/morbidity rates are if the absolute rates are still unacceptably high. Stickman posted:My comment was meant to address what I read into ND’s comment, which I felt was meant to imply that we should ditch public control measures because the vaccinated are protected and the unvaccinated “made their choice”. quote:My point is that the vaccinated are still impacted the reality of the unvaccinated both through healthcare resource over-utilization and through widespread transmissions (which also can’t be be controlled by vaccination alone at this point).
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Getting mixed messages from NPR here After 2 years, growing calls to take masks off children in school (Jan 28) Why omicron is crushing hospitals — even though cases are often milder than delta (Jan 29) My two year old brought it home from daycare (no symptoms, wouldn't have known if we hadn't tested her), passed it on to me (boosted, symptoms were basically a mild cold). Back to work tomorrow, finally. Ended up being home a lot this January.
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Those don't appear to be from the same author and they don't look like formal statements from NPR
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So with a kid and wife catching covid last week, I can tell you the 5 day CDC recommended quarantine is fuckin wild. Both had breakthrough cases - son got 2nd shot after Thanksgiving, wife had her booster back in October - and they're definitely not back to good yet. I have no idea how infectious they still are but I had to tell the school to hold off another day before the kid would be back. He's still got the occasional cough and I just don't want to get any other families sick.
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A friend of mine got covid on New Year’s Eve after getting Alpha twice and 4 shots. He tested PCR positive for 19 days though he also had pneumonia and I think strep.
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From KFF's most recent tracking survey for the U.S.:quote:Key Findings Visuals:  
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That uninsured percentage is pretty interesting, quite a low number but not because they don't want to be vaccinated.
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:That uninsured percentage is pretty interesting, quite a low number but not because they don't want to be vaccinated. I wonder how much of that number is people who don't know or won't believe that it's free
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haveblue posted:I wonder how much of that number is people who don't know or won't believe that it's free Sadly for some of them I'm sure they have some life experiences that led them to be skeptical of a medical procedure that is advertised as free.
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:That uninsured percentage is pretty interesting, quite a low number but not because they don't want to be vaccinated. Look four bars above that one, there's hardly a difference between insured and uninsured. The important part is probably "below age 65" since people over 65 are much more likely to be vaccinated.
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I reckon 10% vs. 16% is pretty different in the context of never getting vaccinated.
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https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/21K.21L Good grief that is quite the radiation.
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Youth Decay posted:Sure we do. Moderna, AZ, Pfizer, J&J. Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA vaccines and functionally identical. J&J has proven to be really only effective in the short term, so much so that it is basically ignored in any discussion of vaccination, and I wasn't aware AZ was even available here in the US. I certainly haven't seen it offered anywhere.
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I'm still trying to figure out what the ~5% of 'wait and see' respondents in most bins are waiting for/expecting to see, unless they just didn't notice the "only if required" option.
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StratGoatCom posted:https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/21K.21L Can you please stop posting this kind of thing without any meaningful commentary or analysis? This is completely meaningless to a layperson and it seems like you're just posting a BIG SCARY GRAPH to get attention. If I'm misreading you I apologize but the post as it stands is pretty worthless for this thread.
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Professor Beetus posted:Can you please stop posting this kind of thing without any meaningful commentary or analysis? This is completely meaningless to a layperson and it seems like you're just posting a BIG SCARY GRAPH to get attention. If I'm misreading you I apologize but the post as it stands is pretty worthless for this thread. It means that it's diversifying fast; it may or may not amount to something, but it's something to watch. Lots of diversification means an increased chance of variants with novel capabilities or strengthening of various abilities or changed behaviors. StratGoatCom fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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StratGoatCom posted:It means that it's diversifying fast; it may or may not amount to something, but it's something to watch. Lots of diversification means an increased chance of variants with novel capabilities or strengthening of various abilities or changed behaviors. Does it? How does it show rapid diversification? Here's the cladogram for Delta. Looks scary!!!!!  Looks even scarier than yours! Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Jan 31, 2022 18:01
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StratGoatCom posted:It means that it's diversifying fast; it may or may not amount to something, but it's something to watch. Lots of diversification means an increased chance of variants with novel capabilities or strengthening of various abilities or changed behaviors. Thanks for clarifying, I don't have a problem with people discussing science and research but I would appreciate at least this much commentary on an initial post with stuff like this. I have repeatedly asked people to add some sort of content or analysis when they drop a tweet or an article, and this is especially important if you're trying to highlight some sort of new research that's not really meant to be consumed by a layperson. So consider this a fair warning going forward, I've made this ask enough times that I am just going to probe these posts going forward.
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Denmark - 31 January 2022 Wow. Another 20% drop in actual cases from 28 to 29 Jan. But hospital bed use is now over 1000. Also, patient #14 between 20-19 died yesterday.  So how did things go in the last 2 months? Well we had something like 70% of ALL recorded cases in the last 60 days. But only a third the total hospitalizations and 25% of the deaths. Over HALF recorded cases in Denmark in the ENTIRE pandemic were THIS past month. pre:Month: Pre-Dec '21 Dec 2021 Jan 2022 Cases: 491,972 311,831 853,845 Hospital: 20,722 3,837 5,766 Deaths: 2,916 324 475 pre:Actual Reported New Total Date Cases Cases Reinf. Hosp. Hosp. ICU Vent Dead ============================================================================================== Jan 31 --- 29,084 1,478 255 1,028 32 (+1) 15 (0) 17 Jan 30 12,808 36,196 2,055 231 948 31 (-4) 15 (-4) 21 Jan 29 28,186 41,083 2,332 271 922 35 (+2) 19 (+0) 17 Jan 28 35,946 53,655 3,263 305 967 33 (-4) 19 (-3) 26 Jan 27 39,088 51,033 3,119 318 955 37 (-3) 22 (-3) 18 Jan 26 41,724 46,747 3,028 298 938 40 (-4) 25 (-3) 14 Jan 25 48,689 43,734 2,856 318 918 44 (+1) 28 (-1) 14 Jan 24 53,716 40,348 2,501 242 894 43 (+1) 29 (+2) 13 Jan 23 38,017 42,018 2,755 215 813 42 (-3) 27 (-1) 12 Jan 22 34,713 36,120 2,285 220 781 45 (+1) 28 (-1) 25 Jan 21 37,409 46,831 3,160 244 813 44 (-5) 29 (+1) 21 Jan 20 37,420 40,626 2,639 232 825 49 (-1) 28 (-2) 15 Jan 19 37,595 38,759 2,285 248 821 50 (+1) 30 (+1) 16 Jan 18 40,303 33,493 2,002 264 810 49 (-3) 29 (-8) 14 Jan 17 41,486 28,780 1,815 203 802 52 (-7) 37 (-4) 11 Jan 16 28,179 26,169 1,614 159 734 59 (+0) 41 (+1) 16 Jan 15 25,188 25,034 1,644 202 711 59 (-1) 40 (+4) 16 Jan 14 25,883 23,614 1,519 215 757 60 (-4) 36 (-2) 15 Jan 13 23,776 25,751 1,822 194 755 64 (-9) 38 (-8) 20 Jan 12 22,575 24,343 1,614 215 751 73 (+0) 46 (+0) 25 Jan 11 22,656 22,936 1,459 181 754 73 (-1) 46 (-1) 14 Jan 10 23,244 14,414 941 156 777 74 (-3) 47 (-3) 9 Jan 09 16,330 19,248 1,327 126 723 77 (-1) 50 (-2) 14 Jan 08 13,573 12,588 984 161 730 78 (+0) 52 (-1) 28 Jan 07 14,434 18,261 1,482 186 755 78 (-4) 53 (+4) 10 Jan 06 15,417 25,995 2,027 161 756 82 (+2) 47 (-2) 11 Jan 05 17,577 28,283 2,083 204 784 80 (+3) 49 (+2) 15 Jan 04 23,698 23,372 1,701 229 792 77 (+4) 47 (+1) 15 Jan 03* 25,617 8,801 532 169 770 73 (-3) 46 (-4) 5 Jan 02 19,906 7,550 404 163 709 76 (+3) 50 (+1) 15 Jan 01 8,631 20,885 1,049 139 647 73 (+0) 49 (+0) 5 Dec 31 9,728 17,605 1,090 177 641 73 (-2) 49 (-1) 11 Dec 30 19,927 21,403 1,123 178 665 75 (-2) 50 (-2) 9 Dec 29 17,245 23,228 1,205 173 675 77 (+6) 52 (+2) 16 Dec 28 21,955 13,000 670 177 666 71 (+1) 50 (+4) 14 Dec 27 22,616 16,164 639 115 608 70 (-1) 46 (-2) 7 Dec 26 10,965 14,844 644 123 579 71 (-2) 43 (+1) 13 Dec 25 7,853 10,027 463 86 522 73 (-1) 44 (+5) 10 Dec 24 7,054 11,229 527 134 509 74 (+2) 39 (+1) 14 Dec 23 12,605 12,487 613 158 541 72 (+6) 38 (+1) 15 Dec 22 11,591 13,386 531 126 524 66 (-1) 37 (+2) 14 Dec 21 13,011 13,558 501 121 526 67 (+1) 35 (+2) 17 Dec 20 13,288 10,082 --- 85 581 66 (+3) 33 (-2) 8 Dec 19 10,231 8,212 Dec 18 10,049 8,594 Dec 17 10.614 11,194 Dec 16 10,171 9,999 Dec 15 10,775 8,773 --- 96 508 66 (+0) 43 (-3) 9 Dec 13 10,294 7,799 --- 61 480 64 (-1) 42 (+0) 9 Dec 12 6,986 5,989 --- 82 468 65 (+5) 42 (+6) 9 Dec 08 6,560 6,629 --- 72 461 66 (-1) 38 (-1) 7 Dec 01 4,464 5,120 --- 88 439 35 (+1) 35 (+1) 14 Table 2: ICU Bed Usage, Weekly (reported every 2 weeks) pre:Date Bed Availability ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17 January 328 ICU beds, 54 COVID, 66 available 10 January 331 ICU beds, 72 COVID, 29 available 03 January 331 ICU beds, 76 COVID, 32 available 27 December 316 ICU beds, 71 COVID, 62 available 20 December 317 ICU beds, 60 COVID, 59 available 13 December 319 ICU beds, 64 COVID, 39 available 06 December 310 ICU beds, 67 COVID, 10 available <-- squeaky bum time here 29 November 318 ICU beds, 61 COVID, 25 available https://www.rkkp.dk/kvalitetsdatabaser/databaser/dansk-intensiv-database/resultater/ https://covid19.ssi.dk/overvagningsdata/download-fil-med-overvaagningdata https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/242ec2acc014456295189631586f1d26 https://covid19.ssi.dk/virusvarianter/delta-pcr Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Fighting Trousers posted:Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA vaccines and functionally identical.
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Rust Martialis posted:Does it? How does it show rapid diversification? And where is Delta now
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HonorableTB posted:And where is Delta now Still loving here killing people even if omicron is rampant?
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Rust Martialis posted:Denmark - 31 January 2022 Comparing cases on a daily basis has a lot of fluctuation. It's more interesting that January 29 has 19% less cases than the same day on the previous week. It's a bit less pronounced in the number of actual cases, but there's still a clear difference per day of the week.
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