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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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metachronos posted:

At my college there was a VTM larp group that was allegedly beefing with the more traditional "board games" gaming club. Turned out to be not a huge deal but it seemed funny at the time.

I can imagine arguing over who gets the more dimly-lit of the basement general purpose rooms at 8pm on a weekday

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Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Motronic posted:

How is "report the sexual assault to the police" not at the top of this list? Are they all so brain poisoned they think they're in a separate world where they have given themselves over both mentally and physically to the constructs of the "game"?

Works for colleges, the Boy Scouts, and the Catholic church, so why not?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Works for colleges, the Boy Scouts, and the Catholic church, so why not?

I don't think the LARP leader is considered to be a community leader in quite the same way

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Motronic posted:

How is "report the sexual assault to the police" not at the top of this list? Are they all so brain poisoned they think they're in a separate world where they have given themselves over both mentally and physically to the constructs of the "game"?

Sexual assault is the point. You can’t have LEOs ruining that.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Dik Hz posted:

Sexual assault is the point. You can’t have LEOs ruining that.

i have good news for you about LEOs

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Motronic posted:

How is "report the sexual assault to the police" not at the top of this list? Are they all so brain poisoned they think they're in a separate world where they have given themselves over both mentally and physically to the constructs of the "game"?

That college town was small enough that the D&D scene, LARP scene, kick scene, goth scene, alt scene, LGBTQ+ community, etc were are basically a circle on the vent diagram. While many people tried to build supportive and inclusive spaces, abusers and harassers would play up just how connected they were and threaten young and inexperienced college students with complete and total social alienation if they dared speak up or get normies involved.

Also because of that overlap even in situations where those threats weren't made explicitly, most everyone involved was part of a marginalized community that absolutely didn't trust police.

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Dik Hz posted:

Ick. For those that don’t want to read it, this all took place in an abandoned basement that the other players didn’t know about. Ick.

Huh, I don't care about their wee game anymore, I'm just glad she wasn't sexually assaulted or murdered for real...

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

quote:

lured them to such a secluded spot in our larp area that even I didn't know existed (an underground basement parking lot connected to a nearby shopping mall, with an extra emergency door at a shed at the edge of our area).

Jesus Christ it keeps on getting worse. I would start getting really suspicious of the "mod" Tony took with him.

I'm even more convinced Tony was trying to gently caress this girl after learning he took her to a dimly lit, abandoned basement no one else knows about with only his friend to ssy there were no problems.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Soylent Pudding posted:

the D&D scene, LARP scene, kick scene, goth scene, alt scene, LGBTQ+ community, etc were are basically a circle on the vendiagram.

We understood the first time, no need to repeat yourself.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

I'd simply throw a bean bag at the murderer, while yelling 'LIGHTNING STORM, LIGHTNING STORM'

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

pentyne posted:

There's a thread from a goon about her larping days and she goes into detail about the larp social dynamic and how insanely toxic it is.

Ask me about LARPing destroying my life and my soul.

Basically the tl:dr is that the way the game is designed, the people with the most 'points' were the ones there the longest, and they had enormous in game authority over new players. This was frequently used to bully and harass new people under the guise of staying "in-character".

Here's a breakdown for how the Larp 'officially' handles problems

Was this the one where she described there being an in-game mind enslavement spell that higher level players could cast on new players, and that they were expected to just go along with it? Because The Rules?

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

kru posted:

I'd simply throw a bean bagbrick at the murderer, while yelling 'LIGHTNING STORM, LIGHTNING STORM'

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
one time i was at a coffee shop and a bunch of vampire LARPers showed up. since i was dressed like i might be part of a vampire LARP, and i was pretty bored, i decided to just join their game. had no idea what was going on but that didn't matter, i just made a bunch of poo poo up. i had 'em going pretty good; they all figured i was some kind of important NPC and were trying to figure out the new direction the story was going in

when they finally figured out i was just loving with them all, hoo boy were they pissed. they were fuckin' apoplectic. not that they could do anything but rage while i laughed my rear end off; vampire LARPers are more into passive aggression than actual aggression. i'm sure they talked a lot of poo poo about me to their friends but lol, whatever

anyway that was my LARP experience, it was pretty fun

deety
Aug 2, 2004

zombies + sharks = fun

teen witch posted:

https://www.reddit.com/user/jinxinyueyue/

more details there PLUS a more detailed post on r/larp (that doesn’t help…)

A fun fact I found from this link: about 60% of the group's newest members are women, but that ratio drops to 10% of the people who've played for more than a year.

Their group feels unsafe enough that it's running all the women off.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

deety posted:

A fun fact I found from this link: about 60% of the group's newest members are women, but that ratio drops to 10% of the people who've played for more than a year.

Their group feels unsafe enough that it's running all the women off.

And with a rule that they can't tell the other women why they leave because that's ~metagaming~.

God. drat.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
There's a certain kind of LARPer who is into it because in real life they feel weak, powerless, and/or ignored, and in a LARP there are rules saying that people have to pay attention to them. And they get real mad when their imaginary authority is threatened.

When I was working summer fast food shifts between semesters of college, somehow it came out in conversation with a customer that my play group at college ran Werewolf: The Apocalypse on occasion, like not even Larp, just paper and pencil. Dude suddenly started talking to me in character, interrogated me on what kind of character I played, and upon finding out that his character was higher rank than mine(his was, of course, almost the highest rank, and from the clan who's real big on blood purity, naturally), started ordering me around and demanding that I give him an employee discount. All the while my co-worker was just staring at this dude trying to figure out how friendly small talk had turned into whatever the gently caress was going on.

It was an intensely bizarre sequence of events.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
What did he smell like?

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Embracing the forbidden magicks to swing 10% off at Dennys

PurpleLizardWizard
Jun 11, 2012
The sequence of events appears to be roughly:
- Tony's character is killed for being a murder hobo, which is a regular event, and he decides to make a "nice" character for once.
- Steph joins the LARP, and quickly becomes popular due to knowing how to sew and being willing to repair/upgrade other players' costumes.
- Tony gets cozy with Steph after she fixes some of his gear, and assumes a mentor role. The LARP being weird about metagame knowledge means that no one is allowed to warn her about Tony's usual play style.
- Tony talks Steph into focusing a lot of her in-game time on investigating the death of his previous character.
- There's some unrelated character drama going on that upsets Steph, and Tony offers "in character" to take her out on a date to "calm her down." Steph says no.
- Tony starts tilting their in character interactions to morally grey / maybe we need to break the law poo poo.
- Tony lures Steph to the secret basement, asks her to break the law with him. When she goes "sure, I'm down with that", he claims that she has failed his test.
- Tony goes through all the by-the-book rules for initiating permadeath PvP, which is supposed to give Steph the chance to retreat if she objects. But he is physically blocking the only exit.
- Steph dies, objects, and everyone with power tells her to suck it because he followed the rules. Steph is expected to not talk about this with anyone, and for all her friends to shun her in-game until they have an in character reason to interact with her new character.
- Steph is banned from the LARP for continuing to tell her friends what happened when they directly ask.

Yeah, not at all a surprise they can't retain new members.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Oh, I read it as if it was set up that all of the "signs of impending PvP" where made to look like Tony was going to attack Ralph, the moderator present. So Steph don't even know she was "consenting" to PvP. Because she wasn't.

Ralph was fake threatening her or some poo poo and Tony was defending her until he LARP-stabbed her in the back.

It's all kinds of weird and creepy and lovely.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Embracing the forbidden magicks to swing 10% off at Dennys

r/relationships: Embracing the forbidden magicks to swing 10% off at Dennys

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Halloween Jack posted:

What did he smell like?
No idea, the upside/downside of working in fast food is you basically carry your own personal smell-cloud of grease and beef.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Embracing the forbidden magicks to swing 10% off at Dennys
That's the best part, He had already paid at the time he was asking for the discount, and I would need to get my manager involved at that point.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard
What are the chances this was the first new female player that Tony had "killed"?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
The person who posted the story said in the comments that the reason the victim got killed was because she was fantasy racist against dark skinned characters, I’m assuming dark elves/drow, and the guy was mad over that

All the rest of the skeeviness y’all have pointed out is totally gross, but it sounds like there might be no heroes in this story

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
just normal pen and paper d&d (i miss it) but had a couple try to join who were clearly furries (no hate, at least they're not nazis) and the had entire pages of backstory they wanted us all to read. they started trying to overrule the dm on dice rolls ("i do it anyway") and just in general trying to get us all to play really seriously and take them extra seriously as exiled [monster] royalty
they kept getting mad that i referred to bad npc snake creatures as "it" so i asked "ok, does the snake creature have tits?" i hadn't raised my hand to be out of character so the dm told everyone i had just shouted "does the snake creature have tits?" in the royal throne room of a floating ice castle.
they ended up not coming back because everyone started saying "it's just a game" when they argued with the dm. we really did try to get them to fit in, but they wanted to be treated like royalty one night a week.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

InsertPotPun posted:

just normal pen and paper d&d (i miss it) but had a couple try to join who were clearly furries (no hate, at least they're not nazis) and the had entire pages of backstory they wanted us all to read.

You just reminded me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfyCQq8sRbk

Slo-Tek
Jun 8, 2001

WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

rotinaj posted:

The person who posted the story said in the comments that the reason the victim got killed was because she was fantasy racist against dark skinned characters, I’m assuming dark elves/drow, and the guy was mad over that

All the rest of the skeeviness y’all have pointed out is totally gross, but it sounds like there might be no heroes in this story

Been a good 3 decades since I had anything to do with dungeons or dragons, but isn't racism kinda cooked into the pie? Not "dwarfs tend to be gruff and aquisitive", but "Every dark elf, goblin, and googah is born actively, schemingly, pointlessly evil, and murdering them indiscriminately is both good and right, and also the path to fortune and glory.

So, people get to play "not like those other girls" and claim that their half-dark elf, three-quarters black dragon bard is in fact one of the good ones.

I dunno, somebody tell me about the state of the art here, because seems like "don't be racist against the genetically evil monsters that you are supposed to be killing by the boatload" is a weird high ground to hold.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

D&D stuff always reminds me of this old video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCWOCPxPmus

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Slo-Tek posted:

Been a good 3 decades since I had anything to do with dungeons or dragons, but isn't racism kinda cooked into the pie? Not "dwarfs tend to be gruff and aquisitive", but "Every dark elf, goblin, and googah is born actively, schemingly, pointlessly evil, and murdering them indiscriminately is both good and right, and also the path to fortune and glory.

So, people get to play "not like those other girls" and claim that their half-dark elf, three-quarters black dragon bard is in fact one of the good ones.

I dunno, somebody tell me about the state of the art here, because seems like "don't be racist against the genetically evil monsters that you are supposed to be killing by the boatload" is a weird high ground to hold.

https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/races-alignments-lore-removed

They just addressed that, actually.

But like, if the new girl joined the larp and started getting REALLY INTO talking about how much she hates those dark skinned folk, might be a warning sign

Farg
Nov 19, 2013

Slo-Tek posted:

Been a good 3 decades since I had anything to do with dungeons or dragons, but isn't racism kinda cooked into the pie? Not "dwarfs tend to be gruff and aquisitive", but "Every dark elf, goblin, and googah is born actively, schemingly, pointlessly evil, and murdering them indiscriminately is both good and right, and also the path to fortune and glory.

So, people get to play "not like those other girls" and claim that their half-dark elf, three-quarters black dragon bard is in fact one of the good ones.

I dunno, somebody tell me about the state of the art here, because seems like "don't be racist against the genetically evil monsters that you are supposed to be killing by the boatload" is a weird high ground to hold.

that sorta thing is more or less the domain of the sorts of people you don't wanna play a game with nowadays

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

https://youtu.be/QoO2eI9IioE

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Slo-Tek posted:

Been a good 3 decades since I had anything to do with dungeons or dragons, but isn't racism kinda cooked into the pie? Not "dwarfs tend to be gruff and aquisitive", but "Every dark elf, goblin, and googah is born actively, schemingly, pointlessly evil, and murdering them indiscriminately is both good and right, and also the path to fortune and glory.

So, people get to play "not like those other girls" and claim that their half-dark elf, three-quarters black dragon bard is in fact one of the good ones.

I dunno, somebody tell me about the state of the art here, because seems like "don't be racist against the genetically evil monsters that you are supposed to be killing by the boatload" is a weird high ground to hold.

Within the last two months Wizards of the Coast (The D&D License holders) released a big old thing saying that Drow are no longer always evil, and aren't explicitly black skinned. Which is part of a larger sea change in the company that's tried to decouple stats from your race/species. E.G. you can have an elf that's as strong as the 'average' minotaur but you can't have an elf with a charge attack because elves don't have giant bull horns. The most recent books don't even provide stat bonuses for the new races, instead saying to follow the new more generalized instructions.

This has, of course, pissed off that part of the playerbase.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Farg posted:

that sorta thing is more or less the domain of the sorts of people you don't wanna play a game with nowadays

Yeah, the folks who are really tied to that sort of thing are basically all the cheese smelling cat pee people that made dnd nearly unplayable until like 2015

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I'm guessing she just said some poo poo like "drat those mean ol elves" or whatever and the manipulative rules lawyer op knew it would be effective in getting people all riled up

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’m sure she talked like a 50s sitcom character yeah

hallo spacedog
Apr 3, 2007

this chaos is killing me
💫🐕🔪😱😱

Slo-Tek posted:

Been a good 3 decades since I had anything to do with dungeons or dragons, but isn't racism kinda cooked into the pie? Not "dwarfs tend to be gruff and aquisitive", but "Every dark elf, goblin, and googah is born actively, schemingly, pointlessly evil, and murdering them indiscriminately is both good and right, and also the path to fortune and glory.

So, people get to play "not like those other girls" and claim that their half-dark elf, three-quarters black dragon bard is in fact one of the good ones.

I dunno, somebody tell me about the state of the art here, because seems like "don't be racist against the genetically evil monsters that you are supposed to be killing by the boatload" is a weird high ground to hold.

Wizards of the Coast seems to be actively trying to move away from the idea of irredeemably intrinsically evil monster races in recent releases. They are moving away from a lot of stuff like racial attributes too.

E: f,b

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

all my roleplay characters end up sounding like Yosemite Sam

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

hawowanlawow posted:

I'm guessing she just said some poo poo like "drat those mean ol elves" or whatever and the manipulative rules lawyer op knew it would be effective in getting people all riled up



Do you want to continue saying how this girl obviously did nothing wrong, or do you want to admit that the conclusion most jumped to might not be correct

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

rotinaj posted:

Yeah, the folks who are really tied to that sort of thing are basically all the cheese smelling cat pee people that made dnd nearly unplayable until like 2015

People longing for the good old days when women had lower maximum stats than men because Biotruths.

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datajugend
Jan 15, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Being banned if you talk about bad stuff that happened to you sounds like a really fun and safe enviroment

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